Mafia 81: SSW II - Game over!

[OhGodMyLife]

I didn't realize xyzzy was actually trying to policy lynch flay.

Unvote, Vote: xyzzy

Much better

Vote count

(13 players alive = 7 to lynch before deadline)
(3) xyzzy – Mr. Flay, Rogue Shenanigans, OhGodMyLife
(2) Mr. Flay – xyzzy, Grimmy
(1) Grimmy – farside22
(1) OhGodMyLife – SpyreX
(1) SpyreX – Korts

Not voting:

Jenter Brolincani, Flameaxe, killa seven, Nitro Styles, Phoebus

Deadline:

Monday 9 June 1:00 PM (GMT -5 according to forum clock)

[xyzzy]

You're voting me for trying to start discussion with a bandwagon. Obviously my goal isn't to get a player I know nothing about so far lynched.

[Rogue Shenanigans]

@Flay:

Gasmask - that could go either way. You could be a human trying to HIDE, or a

werewolf pretedning to be a human

thats hiding therefore.. . *explode*


I know its Nibbler - so, zyzzy is a Hyper-Intelligent Space Dog.

Bolded part: werewolves wouldn't be pretending to be humans. This slip I attribute to SpyreX being a human.

SpyreX previous post shows him random voting based on who has the most

humans

in thier avatar.

[xyzzy]

Heh, that's actually quite a good point.

Unvote, vote Korts

for incredible levels of craplogic.

[Korts]

Yeah, I see that. But why would SpyreX assume werewolves would pretend to be humans?

[OhGodMyLife]

Tell me xyzzy, how does calling for a policy lynch start any kind of useful discussion aside from the fact that we're now discussing how scummy you look because of it.

The korts vote isn't helping your cause. I believe in the real world we call what korts based his vote on a misunderstanding, but you're trying to paint it as something more sinister.

[OhGodMyLife]

Yeah, I see that. But why would SpyreX assume werewolves would pretend to be humans?

Reading the last game, or a simple misunderstanding, are both valid explanations. I think you're hitting a dead end on this one korts.

[Korts]

Yeah, I see that. But why would SpyreX assume werewolves would pretend to be humans?

Reading the last game, or a simple misunderstanding, are both valid explanations. I think you're hitting a dead end on this one korts.

Probably, yeah. Still, I'd have liked for SpyreX himself to answer...

[Rogue Shenanigans]

Tell me xyzzy, how does calling for a policy lynch start any kind of useful discussion aside from the fact that we're now discussing how scummy you look because of it.

It was his first post on day one, a simple bandwagon to get things moving out of the random stage as fast as possible. Thats how I see it at least Don't read too much into it.

[OhGodMyLife]

But then in later posts he promotes lynching flay simply because he says flay makes a dangerous scum, so we should lynch him just in case.

Thats super scummy.

Poorly thought out defense of xyzzy noted.

[OhGodMyLife]

Korts what do you think of xyzzy so far?

[Korts]

Bah, OGML said it before me. Defending xyzzy.

[Korts]

Korts what do you think of xyzzy so far?

I'm thinking that the proposed wagon on Flay could be taken both ways. However, I don't like how he jumped on me calling what I think was a valid question craplogic.

[OhGodMyLife]

Bah, OGML said it before me. Defending xyzzy.

i'm in ur hed, steelin ur ideaz [/lolcat]

[SpyreX]

Hey now, I thought this was still fun jokin phase.

What I was implying (knowing that wolves are town in this one) was a WIFOM joke:

1.) He could be a human trying to hide his filthly humanness behind the mask.
2.) Or he could be a wolf pretending to be a human thats pretending to hide to see who comes after him.

I guess it was just a poorly worded joke based on your avatar.

[xyzzy]

Tell me xyzzy, how does calling for a policy lynch start any kind of useful discussion aside from the fact that we're now discussing how scummy you look because of it.

The korts vote isn't helping your cause. I believe in the real world we call what korts based his vote on a misunderstanding, but you're trying to paint it as something more sinister.

Bandwagons produce information. A discussion of whether my actions were scummy, whether I'm scum or not, helps the town. If it results in my lynch, it's not helpful for me, but information-wise an informed lynch (even a wrong one) is a Good Thing.

...And in the real world, we don't lynch people we think might not be werewolves. Your point is?

[Korts]

NUKE OGML and every illiterate cat

[xyzzy]

But then in later posts he promotes lynching flay simply because he says flay makes a dangerous scum, so we should lynch him just in case.

Thats super scummy.

Poorly thought out defense of xyzzy noted.

You expect page one logic to be non-flawed? I was merely saying, "we haven't got much to start with - let's start here, at this random location."

[Korts]

Hey now, I thought this was still fun jokin phase.

What I was implying (knowing that wolves are town in this one) was a WIFOM joke:

1.) He could be a human trying to hide his filthly humanness behind the mask.
2.) Or he could be a wolf pretending to be a human thats pretending to hide to see who comes after him.

I guess it was just a poorly worded joke based on your avatar.

K. Sounds fair 'nuff.

unvote

[OhGodMyLife]

You're right, the wagon on you is very informed, thank you for helping.

And my point is that your korts vote is not well founded, and therefore further evidence for your scumitude.

[OhGodMyLife]

spyrex, if you had to make a real non-joke vote right now, who would it be for and why?

[Korts]

xyzzy, by acting scummy, you attract both town and scum, and no information will be gained from your lynch--that is, if you're town. If you're scum, you'll just expose your buddies. I don't see how this wagon on you would be beneficial to you either way.

[SpyreX]

Bandwagons produce information. A discussion of whether my actions were scummy, whether I'm scum or not, helps the town. If it results in my lynch, it's not helpful for me, but information-wise an informed lynch (even a wrong one) is a Good Thing.

I think that, of course, looking at voting histories and how bandwagons formed does help the town. I also understand that the first few bandwagons that ebb and flow with the tides are normally started from jokes or spurious claims to see how people react.

Only problem here is a day one policy lynch out of the start really doesn't tell me a lot about anything or anyone except that you come of scummy for it. In fact, it actually creates a way where scum can hide easier on the bandwagon forming for you (as in the raw amount of scumminess a policy lynch holds) - I'm not voting you yet, but as it seems we are out of the joking time.

unvote

FoS: Xyzzy

[SpyreX]

Good LORD I need a preview before post button - I'm still not used to a game that moves this fast.

But, I think my post answers most of the questions addressed to me.

[OhGodMyLife]

yes indeed you certainly answered my question