Mini 598 - Justice Justice - Abandoned

[VanDamien]

Oh there was reasoning.

We are at 9 players. If the same thing happens this time around as last time, we'll be at 6 tomorrow, which is a lost game. The mafia would have the same number of players as the town, and even if the town lynched correctly, it would be 2-1 in mafia's favor day three. So let's lynch correctly.

You make some assumptions here, that show you most likely have inside, scummy information. Foremost of these, is that going into a third night with 3 town:2 scum, that both of those scum would have their one-shots left in order to enter day at 2 scum: 1 town.

Secondly, even in that position, it's not necessarily a scum win: everyone could die, assuming enough town vigs are left, and our choices hit those last two scum after a successful lynch.

And why on Earth do you think angelmouse killed anyone, after being lynched?

[Skruffs]

I was under the impression that the mafia had a NK every night, VanDAmien.

Thanks for giving me some info about them though!

Unvote, Vote: VanDamien

[Skruffs]

I was under the impression that this was like Texas mafia, where we are all vigs that only get to use their kills after being lynched. So I Thought ANgelmouse had a NK, and that mafia have a NK every night. I guess I haven't been paying attention to the rules. FOrtunately mafia have always been helpful to comply.

[chaotic_diablo]

Skruffs? Are you there? Guess not. Check post 2 for Oklahoma Justice. Scum are all one-shot.

[VanDamien]

So, It's a scumtell to actually read the rules of the game we're playing, in your mind. You're f-ing brilliant.

but

unvote

because your idiocy seems genuine.

[WeyounsLastClone]

Come on people, we need more input!

I was under the impression that the mafia had a NK every night, VanDAmien.

Thanks for giving me some info about them though!

Unvote, Vote: VanDamien

This feels a bit like an OMGUS-vote to me. But I don't really like VanDamien backing down either.

[VanDamien]

Skruffs' 202 fits with his earlier posting that appeared non-sensical, and also explains the post I was voting him for, when the game is looked at through that (incorrect) logic.

Really, I'm getting sick of people not paying attention to the set-up, especially since they should have known from the time they signed up that this was going to be a weird one - but as mentioned before, that alone isn't a reason to lynch, necessarily, since they'll still be around for a ton more Justices.

[Korts]

I'm really gonna have to dig into this game sooner or later... Give me a day to reread, and I'll give you something...

[Max]

Vote Count:

Skruffs (2): Weyouns, VanDamien
VanDamien (1): Skruffs
WeyounsLastClone (0)
chaotic_diablo (0)
Korts (0)
kabenon007 (0)
killa seven (0):
skitzer (0)
J-man (0)

Just a note Mafia Do have a nightkill in nebraska but only one shots in Oklahoma.

[Skruffs]

I'm aware of the set up, now. Thanks, C_D.

Unvote, Vote: WeyounsLastClone

For demanding input without providing any, and trying to goad players into fighting each other.

[killa seven]

didnt realise i was alive in oaklahoma.
re read

[kabenon007]

I am going to be missing in action until the 13th. I thought I was going to have internet access where I was going, but it turns out I will not.

[chaotic_diablo]

Skruffs' 202 fits with his earlier posting that appeared non-sensical, and also explains the post I was voting him for, when the game is looked at through that (incorrect) logic.

Really, I'm getting sick of people not paying attention to the set-up, especially since they should have known from the time they signed up that this was going to be a weird one - but as mentioned before, that alone isn't a reason to lynch, necessarily, since they'll still be around for a ton more Justices.

Sure, get sick. See if we care. At the very best, we now know that skruffs likely isn't scum. Otherwise he wouldn't have used such hazardous logic. That or he's laying an elaborate trap that involves pissing you off.

vote WLC

Same reason as skruffs, except I just feel he isn't taking a side. He points out that skruffs is OMGUS voting, but the later applies a negative connotation with VanDamien's retreat. Two attacks in one go. I think he's feeling the wagons for a good jump.

[WeyounsLastClone]

Not that I can say that my behavior is entirely different from Skruffs, but Skruffs only seems to be voting for people voting him. Also, part of the reason of my vote is the confusing behavior by Skruffs day one. Saying scum wouldn't act like that is pure WIFOM-reasoning and doesn't give any information regarding his alignment.

Also, kabenon leaving for one and a half week, basically skipping one week of oklahoma, and one of nebraska, isn't really helping either. Any way to get the deadline extended?

[chaotic_diablo]

Not that I can say that my behavior is entirely different from Skruffs, but Skruffs only seems to be voting for people voting him. Also, part of the reason of my vote is the confusing behavior by Skruffs day one. Saying scum wouldn't act like that is pure WIFOM-reasoning and doesn't give any information regarding his alignment.

Also, kabenon leaving for one and a half week, basically skipping one week of oklahoma, and one of nebraska, isn't really helping either. Any way to get the deadline extended?

Scum wouldn't act as so because they know they are one-shot, therefore they wouldn't have a "scum can kill every night" rationale. Unless skruffs is faking his ignorance, I don't find it likely skruffs is scum.

[Korts]

Okay, perhaps this sparks discussion. I was the one who vigged ZS.

[Max]

Vote Count:

Skruffs (2): Weyouns, VanDamien
WeyounsLastClone (2): Skruffs, chaotic_diablo
VanDamien (0)
chaotic_diablo (0)
Korts (0)
killa seven (0):
skitzer (0)
J-man (0)

kabenon007 (0)

8 Active, 5 to lynch

[skitzer]

Oh...I think ZombieSlayer in Nebraska is maf with J man. Because he isn't maf in this game, and they are somehow connected...

oh well,

vote: J-man

[Skruffs]

You shouldn't have said that, Korts. Scum now know that you are 'not a threat' to them, and will most likely not go after you until the end.

Weyouns:
You voted me day 2 for 'my behavior' day one. You didn't explain what that behavior was, except that I tend to vote people who vote me.

Guess what, though.. you voted me day one for scumhunting day 2, saying htat traps never work or something along those lines. I countered that the only time I had seen a trap used, it was by town, and it correctly caught scum who then talked their way out o fit. YOU never responded, though, and merely criticized me as "OMGUS" for counter voting you.

So.. stuff that in your pipe, plz. ^.^

[WeyounsLastClone]

Day one you come up with some confusing and ill-conceived 'trap'. Now day 2 you vote Van Damien, and me, the only two who've laid suspicion on you. If that isn't OMGUS, I don't know.

Now you add a strange comment to Korts that leads straight into WIFOM.

[Korts]

Oh...I think ZombieSlayer in Nebraska is maf with J man. Because he isn't maf in this game, and they are somehow connected...

oh well,

vote: J-man

Vote: skitzer

What exactly made you think ZS and J-man are connected? And if they are mafia in Nebraska, why do you think J-man is mafia in Oklahoma, too?

[Korts]

You shouldn't have said that, Korts. Scum now know that you are 'not a threat' to them, and will most likely not go after you until the end.

Maybe, but unless someone else claims the ZS kill, this means I'm pseudo-confirmed, no? Therefore my claiming helps narrow down the suspicions.

[WeyounsLastClone]

Yeah, or your claim was fake, and you're having a little charade with Skruffs now.

[VanDamien]

You shouldn't have said that, Korts. Scum now know that you are 'not a threat' to them, and will most likely not go after you until the end.

Maybe, but unless someone else claims the ZS kill, this means I'm pseudo-confirmed, no? Therefore my claiming helps narrow down the suspicions.

Or, it means you're scum, killed ZS knowing he was town using what appeared to be a slip as an excuse to do it, then further use that as supposed confirmation for yourself.

[Max]

Vote Count:

Skruffs (2): Weyouns, VanDamien
WeyounsLastClone (2): Skruffs, chaotic_diablo
J-man (1) skitzer
skitzer (1) Korts
VanDamien (0)
chaotic_diablo (0)
Korts (0)
killa seven (0):

kabenon007 (0)

8 Active, 5 to lynch