Open 70 - Two of Four (b9) (Game Over!) before 595

[dcorbe]

Vote Farside

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Also, no previous suspicion of max stated. Wagon much?

I think she had her vote on Max already before she unvoted and voted herself.

I'm sure if you go back far enough in the thread she at one point made a pretty small case against.

-Daniel

[dcorbe]

Post 109 for example.

Disclaimer: I'm not defending farside's actions, but I don't think we should lynch someone for ridiculous reasons.

[farside22]

Vote Farside

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Also, no previous suspicion of max stated. Wagon much?

I think she had her vote on Max already before she unvoted and voted herself.

I'm sure if you go back far enough in the thread she at one point made a pretty small case against.

-Daniel

QFT. I did. My opinion hasn't changed. He is not making any sense on his thought process and attacked anyone for asking him about it. He voted for me with little no reasoning. Overall I get scummy vibes from him.

[armlx]

Hmm, missed that. I only saw the vote for alvyn.

Still not a fan.

[Mr. Blonde]

Grimmy, alvinz95 - What do you guys think about Max & Farside? Do you think they are townies or scums?

Say something, vote somebody.

[Grimmy]

Grimmy, alvinz95 - What do you guys think about Max & Farside? Do you think they are townies or scums?

Say something, vote somebody.

Say something - Yes

I am torn between the two of them.

Max is setting off all sorts of alarms. States he has a reason and proof of someone's guilt, then drops it and changes it to a gut feeling. When asked, he states that he doesnt have evidence anymore. It seems like he was getting ready to hammer a townie that everyone was going to bandwagon, and when that changed, he silently lost the "evidence" arguement and went with another one. (54% lynch-o-meter)

Farside's tantrum seems very scummy too. This is from my own in game experience with other people. we were voting someone and the closer to lynch they got, the more they whined. It eventually turned out that they WERE scum and lied about their CC. If I were angry at someone in this game, I would vote for them to be lynched regardless of what everyone else thinks. I even recommended this to farside when farside had the tantrum.
(46% lynch-o-meter)

But weighing the two against each other, Im more suspicious of Max.

HEAVY FINGER OF SUSPICION: Max

Lighter finger of suspicion: Farside

vote someone: Not yet

I am witholding my vote for now, because voting will put either person at L-1, and thats not something I wish to be responsible for just yet.

When I see what the dealine for the vote is, I will make a decision if the deadline is looming. I do NOT want a no lynch, though.

Grimmy

[Mr. Blonde]

Hmm... so nobody else looks scummy?

[farside22]

I understand that it looks scummy to throw what you all feel is a tantrum, but I really am annoyed with Armix play and reach of my words and misinterpurting them. I'm more annoyed on top of it because people are just voting and listening to him when he is just I find you scummy because you jumped off a scummy wagon. Then throw WIFOM logic that no one can defend without more WIFOM logic.
@Armix: I want to know have you ever actually pegged one person day one and been right, because the games I'ved played with you thus far you have not.

[Grimmy]

Hmm... so nobody else looks scummy?

Noone even comes close to these two, so ill leave them out for now.

Ill lookinto others pending results from this days events.

grimmy

[Max]

Grimmy, you really think I am scum with Farside... What are you on. I want some!!!

[Grimmy]

Grimmy, you really think I am scum with Farside... What are you on. I want some!!!

Aaaaahhh...Maxie....you are the inspiration that made me put up this avatar!

(kidding)

Grimmy

[armlx]

@Armix: I want to know have you ever actually pegged one person day one and been right, because the games I'ved played with you thus far you have not.

Fair point. My D1 hit percentage is only a bit better then random.

[dcorbe]

I understand that it looks scummy to throw what you all feel is a tantrum, but I really am annoyed with Armix play and reach of my words and misinterpurting them. I'm more annoyed on top of it because people are just voting and listening to him when he is just I find you scummy because you jumped off a scummy wagon. Then throw WIFOM logic that no one can defend without more WIFOM logic.
@Armix: I want to know have you ever actually pegged one person day one and been right, because the games I'ved played with you thus far you have not.

Threatening to abandon your role because someone is being a little too aggressive is a temper tantrum any way you look at it and temper tantrums are a scum tell. I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt here though because I just got lynched in a different game for a similar reason.

Why don't you try telling us why you think Armix has you wrong and what about his responses are twisted and distorted versions of your statements?

If you can satisfy some or most of the points or refute the majority of what Armix has claimed and he continues to push your wagon he's going to start to look very scummy instead of you.

[farside22]

@dcorbe: I answered his question see quote:

He was at L-1 and claimed townie. Correct procedure is pretty much always lynch.

With 3 pages and no info? That is terrible idea. Unless I'm certain he was scum why let him get lynched by a quick hammer? Sure maybe it will flush out a newbie scum day one, but if dcorbe is townie it just gives the scum an early first kill with no discussion. You logic fails.

He was wagoned for legitimately scummy reasons and didn't have a saving claim.

He uses WIFOM logic:

By not voting him, if he turns up town, you distance yourself from the blame.

Also, claim please and Unvote so no one hammers before this occurs.

Seriously no one can argue against WIFOM logic without sounding like more WIFOM logic.
Over and over (you can see the argument) he says the fact that I unvoted was scummy. I didn't think it was based on page 3 votes and more info needed. Armix thinks I changed my words and I didn't say anything I hadn't said before.
I don't think Armix is scum I just think he is narrow minded.

[dcorbe]

What does WIFOM mean?

[farside22]

What does WIFOM mean?

Wine in front of me.

(watch princess bride)

[armlx]

I don't think Armix is scum I just think he is narrow minded.

I'm starting to think this as well.

Unvote

of hypocrisy.

I endorse a Max lynch now. He has been actively scummy as opposed to subtlely as I have accused dcorbe and farside of.

[dcorbe]

I'm going to go ahead and

Vote: Max

because everything you've posted so far has been mostly 1-liners not much in the way of useful responses.

[armlx]

That is L-1. Just FYI. Claim and what not.

[Avinyl]

Right now, I am suspicious of
1) Max.
2) Farside, I think she has been too emotional, the self-voting for example.
3) Dcorbe, He feels odd in some way.
4) Mr. Blonde, Feels like he is trying more to look like town than to look for scum.

I am not very suspicious of anyone else, but I'm not sure i think somone is more-than-average town, either.

[armlx]

I agree with that list, +/- ordering.

[Mr. Blonde]

Avinyl and armlx. When I've seen these type of lists, you can rest assured that there's either:
(1) scum who makes this list (to control on who could be suspicious)
or
(2) townie makes a list to which scum says "good list".

Hmm..

[Grimmy]

Why did armlx say he supports a max lynch, but not vote for him?

[farside22]

Why did armlx say he supports a max lynch, but not vote for him?

Max is at L-1 and I believe he is waiting for a claim at this point which would be a good thing for Max to do

[dcorbe]

Why did armlx say he supports a max lynch, but not vote for him?

Max is at L-1 and I believe he is waiting for a claim at this point which would be a good thing for Max to do

Who is on the max wagon right now?

@Mod

: Can we get a vote count?

I've seen only a couple of useful posts out of max. Most of the content of his posts seem to be things like:

Grimmy, you really think I am scum with Farside... What are you on. I want some!!!

Your lack of participation makes you look scummy on top of everything else, so why shouldn't we drop the hammer?

@Town: it's not safe to leave him at L-1 until he claims. All it takes is one over zealous person to drop the hammer.