Mini 2072: Timeshift Mafia IV [GAME OVER]

[Prince of Renais]

i'll give a why if people play the game enough to get this game to page 37.

[TTTT]

Why are you being difficult?
you just complained that nobody is playing the game
and I'm trying to engage you on your vote

[Prince of Renais]

me giving my reasons for my vote doesn't help me read anyone.

[TTTT]

solitaire Mafia sounds like a shitty game
have fun

[Prince of Renais]

the actual answer is also something that is hard to put into a post

applied to both heads, when I've read them off of my gut read I've been dead on. I bailed ND39 out in MD (though I did have strong lingering doubts about her and intended to play around her being scum) because I thought intellectually it was unlikely she would do a few things as scum. She was still scum and I felt it in my gut. I kept discrediting Nimueh townreads in NSG's game even though I was never confident enough to go after her because intellectually her response to GL could have been a SvS interaction even though she didn't feel scummy. Same goes for Ari who I have accurately gutread over a very large number of games and only once screwed up on when I decided to abandon my gut read and "think" that he was town b/c he was posting too much to be scum.

this is all a very roundabout way of saying that I gutread both of their posting scum and I don't think that I'm ever wrong on that gutread.

solitaire Mafia sounds like a shitty game
have fun

it is a pretty shitty game. but the expectation of me right now is that I play solitaire mafia and then I get lynched if my solitaire mafia performance wasn't good enough.
does this interaction with me

actually

change your read on me no matter how it goes? because I strongly suspect based on past precedence the answer is no.

[Prince of Renais]

and if i'm going to be scumread or townread based on the results of my pushes rather than the justifications for it, it would make things a lot more pleasant for me if i could just not post justifications.

[Prince of Renais]

tentative pick for second scum is mastina but I don't have any good reasons for that.

[Firebringer]

meh

[Firebringer]

I can believe Nancy is scum given her interaction with me tbh.

[Rainbow Reads]

VOTE: Mephistophanes 39

[Aristophanes]

And mastina,

if you want me to replace out of this game, just request it any time in the game

, I will not be insulted/take offense to it at all. I will honor it because I can be a dick to you and I am not promising I won't be a dick to you at all this game. You shouldn't have to deal with that if you don't want to and I will honor the request.

She can’t do that, it’s now against site rules.

I don't think you understand the purpose of that rule.

Subject: Rule Regarding Threats/Demands to Replace Out of Games

We have added a rule to the Game Specific Rules to read:

Replacements, while sometimes necessary, also serve as an outside influence.

As such, do not tell other players to replace out.

Do not publicly threaten to replace out of a game. If you do need to replace out, do not publicly discuss your reasons or anything else, as you are no longer a player in the game. PM your game moderator if you are considering replacing out or have concerns and believe another player should be replaced out.

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Just don't plz.
Im pages behind but like, seriously.

[Firebringer]

do u both not get the purpose or intent of that rule or do i need to explain it?

[Mephistophanes 39]

And mastina,

if you want me to replace out of this game, just request it any time in the game

, I will not be insulted/take offense to it at all. I will honor it because I can be a dick to you and I am not promising I won't be a dick to you at all this game. You shouldn't have to deal with that if you don't want to and I will honor the request.

She can’t do that, it’s now against site rules.

I don't think you understand the purpose of that rule.

Subject: Rule Regarding Threats/Demands to Replace Out of Games

We have added a rule to the Game Specific Rules to read:

Replacements, while sometimes necessary, also serve as an outside influence.

As such, do not tell other players to replace out.

Do not publicly threaten to replace out of a game. If you do need to replace out, do not publicly discuss your reasons or anything else, as you are no longer a player in the game. PM your game moderator if you are considering replacing out or have concerns and believe another player should be replaced out.

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Just don't plz.
Im pages behind but like, seriously.

Obv mine. Sorry!

do u both not get the purpose or intent of that rule or do i need to explain it?

No, I get it. The intent is to reduce outside effects of games, reduce toxicity, and lock in replacements once made to limit the sway it has on the game.

You are still asking mastina to break the rule as her requesting that you replace out is literally asking her to break it.

And like, I know that your intent here is genuine and that you want to keep the toxicity out of this game, thus it is noble that you are offering this! I respect that! But it still breaks a site rule.

[Mephistophanes 39]

Anyway I should like actually read the game I guess...

Sorry Ive been busy.

[TTTT]

does this interaction with me actually change your read on me no matter how it goes? because I strongly suspect based on past precedence the answer is no.

no, it doesn't
bc I have low confidence in my ability to read your alignment
but you explaining it may help me read that hydra bc I have some experience with both heads

[Firebringer]

TTTT i don't know if ur doing this intentionally but the way ur interacting with RC appears as though ur trying to pick a fight and ur better of shelving it.

[Prince of Renais]

so you see why i wouldn't bother engaging with you then?

[Firebringer]

prince can i haz a donut?

[TTTT]

sincerely how does it look like I'm picking a fight?
I literally just agreed with him

[Prince of Renais]

not unless you vote mephistophanes 39

[TTTT]

so you see why i wouldn't bother engaging with you then?

I think you missed my point
I'm not asking you to explain your vote so I can catch you with scum motives or something
I'm wanted an explanation so I could understand the read assuming your town!POV

[Firebringer]

not unless you vote mephistophanes 39

ur holding donuts hostage? u are a monstar

[Prince of Renais]

but if you're not actually playing mafia with me why should i bother to do that

[TTTT]

not unless you vote mephistophanes 39

I'm considering it
Nancy I'm kinda null on
but Ari's recent posts don't look like town Ari

[Firebringer]

sincerely how does it look like I'm picking a fight?
I literally just agreed with him

it looks like ur poking him by continuing to ask from him to do stuff when he isn't interesting tbh.