mini #585 - A Tempest Has Formed (Over), Thanks Patrick!!

[Patrick]

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Alvinz95 (1) -- Gaspode
Mellowed Man (2) -- Elias_the_thief, Cream147
CoheedCambria09 (1) -- Marmalade
populartajo (2) -- Mellowed Man, Skruffs
Matt_S (1) -- iamausername
Elias_the_thief (3) -- populartajo, CoheedCambria09, alvinz95

Not voting: Matt_S, Evilgorrilaz
12 alive, 7 to lynch.

[populartajo]

Hi Patrick.

I posted in this forum earlier in order to avoid replacement. I have not been having a good time of it in RL. If you care, see that I've only been posting in response to prods for a while and the game I'm modding is briefly stalled. You can wagon me if you want but I should be back into it sometime over the weekend.

Hey, hope things get better.
Anyways Ive decided that Cream should be town for that "HELP US, WHAT SHOULD WE DO NOW" post, a while ago. Therefore lets try to press a player that, I think, hasnt been pressed the way he should. Check some of my posts for exact reasons.

Unvote. Vote: Mellowed Man.

[Skruffs]

ARe you sure that's not a "Let me try and push this back onto an easy wagon from earlier without actually contributing" post right there?

[populartajo]

ARe you sure that's not a "Let me try and push this back onto an easy wagon from earlier without actually contributing" post right there?

Wasup bored townie? If I didnt want to contribute I wouldnt have posted anything.
Mellowed is my second suspect. I dont see why I shouldnt vote him. You?

[Matt_S]

Anyways Ive decided that Cream should be town for that "HELP US, WHAT SHOULD WE DO NOW" post, a while ago.

That exact post struck me as "I have my claimed cop, someone else take over." Of course, I was pretty sore at him already for getting a claim with so few votes. I'm torn though, because he's after Mellowed Man as well, but he would be a prime target for a second claim. I think a

Vote Cream147

is my best move.

[Cream147]

My vote was as good as on him, alvinz' too, so really coheed had 2 more votes than he actually did. We held are votes off him to wait for his claim. So he was claiming at a projected L-2 I think, which isn't too early in my opinion. The post that you and popular have been discussing was a pure panic post. I did not expect to find the cop at all, and as I haven't really been in a situation like that before, I wasn't sure what to do.

What I'd like to know from you Matt, is why a claim from me would be any better than a claim from Mellowed Man. Seriously, I'm not seeing where you're coming from. Surely you just vote for the person who you think is most scummy, which you've said is Mellowed Man. So why?

[Matt_S]

What I'd like to know from you Matt, is why a claim from me would be any better than a claim from Mellowed Man. Seriously, I'm not seeing where you're coming from. Surely you just vote for the person who you think is most scummy, which you've said is Mellowed Man. So why?

Because I don't think you're getting enough pressure for that reaction.

[Mellowed Man]

unvote, vote Elias

[Cream147]

unvote, vote Elias

There we go again! No elaboration, no nothing, just bandwagoning!

[alvinz95]

unvote, vote Elias

What is wrong with you? Your random voting really deserves something to look at.

unvote, Vote: Mellowed Man

Stop wagoning and looking for the easiest kill.

[Skruffs]

ARe you sure that's not a "Let me try and push this back onto an easy wagon from earlier without actually contributing" post right there?

This time directed to Alvinz95.

[Evilgorrilaz]

ARe you sure that's not a "Let me try and push this back onto an easy wagon from earlier without actually contributing" post right there?

This time directed to Mellowed Man. I have no idea where that came from.

[Elias_the_thief]

unvote, vote Elias

uh...good posting? working on the reread right now guys.

[Skruffs]

ARe you sure that's not a "Let me try and push this back onto an easy wagon from earlier without actually contributing" post right there?

This time directed to Mellowed Man. I have no idea where that came from.

If you agreed with this line of thought, why did you say nothing about it the first time it was used?

[Cream147]

Skruffs, the amount to which you are defending Mellowed Man is ridiculous.

[Elias_the_thief]

Thoughts II: A Continuation

Gaspode

: Hasn't posted much to change my opinion since last time I analyzed. I have a

town to neutral

read on him.

Iamausername

: Nothing he has done has made me think twice about my townish read yet. But he doesnt post that often. Meh, yay for hypocrisy. I have a

town

read on him.

EvilGorilaz

: Has had one or two really good posts over the last like ten pages. Needs to post more, but liking the stuff hes putting out there. So far, I have a

town

read on him.

MellowedMan

: Forgetting reasons = scummy. Every post being a vote or a push for a lynch or a request for reasons without ever providing his own = scummy. I thinkin

scum

(previously thought neutral).

Populartajo

: Not much of note since last major post. Seemed to be fishing for popular target in 407. Defense that nothing has changed is weak. Meh, so far a

neutral

read on him (was town to neutral).

CoheedCambria

: Still find him scummy, hasnt done much in the last like 10 pages. Then a Cop claim, whoa. Didnt see that one coming. I have a

scum

read on him (think it was neutral-scum before), but not going to lynch a claimed cop.

Cream

: Very odd comment as far as the buddying thing. Posts some useless noise and generally doesnt help with scumhunting. Attempting to fly under the radar. I have a

neutral to scum

read on him currently (was neutral previously).

Alvinz

: Who? Basically nothing up until page 16 so hard to read. Then a lot of wierd small posts. I have a

neutral to scum

read on him still.

Marmalade

: Not much in terms of posts. I have a

town to neutral

read on him (previously town).

Hypatia/Matt S

: Rolefished some (note: i was talking about question about evidence to skruffs, but the mason stuff is valid too). Conversation with Skruffs around 15 is dumb, and scummy. Waste of space and a distraction. Later discussion is better, the evidence point against him isnt that strong, rolefishing point makes me suspect him more though. I has

neutral to scum

read (previously neutral).

Ashmite/Skruffs

: Ok. Obviously I still find the play from Ashmite pretty scummy, but now I've got some more fodder for suspecting Skruffs as well. I really thought that his attack in 315 was a distraction more than anything. Especially after I read 338 from EG, which is a great post as it points out Skruffs inconsistency. The defense from it is pretty weak in my opinion. It doesnt explain why you completely changed your mind on the topic, depending on who's being pressured. Preferential treatment of scumtells in relation to players is always scummy in my book, unless you have a strong meta on the player. Also dont like the defense of MM. Skruffs, you know that wagons are good for discussion and helps to improve reads for all. What is the rationale for not jumping on one with a pretty scummy target? 363 is good posting though, for the first and second points. The third not so much. One, thats not exactly what matt was saying, and two, even it was those attacks wouldnt be necessarily strong, but by no means would they be invalid, and its just as likely to come from scum as town. Also, the demand for evidence is really less scummy then Skruffs makes it out to be.

neutral to scum

read on him.



Now guys...seriously we need to end this day really bad. 24 pages that no one wants to read, anything further without cold hard evidence is useless. My vote? I will keep it on MM. Not only is he extremely scummy, but his posts are COMPLETELY useless. Even if he is town, theres absolutely NO reason that we should be unhappy with his lynch. So let's just lynch MM and get it over with, k? k.

[Cream147]

Cream: Very odd comment as far as the buddying thing. Posts some useless noise and generally doesnt help with scumhunting. Attempting to fly under the radar. I have a neutral to scum read on him currently (was neutral previously).

Hmm...does it really look like I am really attempting to fly under radar? If so, then I've made a pretty big mess of it thus far. Oh well, at least you agree about Mellowed Man.

[Elias_the_thief]

Actually I meant to put a comment in there like that. Something like "trying to fly under the radar and failing". Good catch.

[alvinz95]

Hmmm, I'm surprised that you think I'm not too active. Good analysis. And how could Marmalade havea town to neutral? I with you on Mellowed Man. 24 pages, Day 1, no deadline is pretty pathetic.

[Matt_S]

unvote, vote Elias

zomg, you time this stuff to happen right after I vote someone else, don't you?

Unvote, Vote Mellowed Man, FOS Cream

.

[Evilgorrilaz]

If you agreed with this line of thought, why did you say nothing about it the first time it was used?

Merely borrowing your quote

In all honesty I thought that by using your quote I was agreeing with your previous uses of the quote. But apparently I lack communication skills.

Vote: Mellowed Man

His last post basically sealed it for me. Also this day is dragging on. Quite honestly I share coheed's sentiment about wanting the game to go into night now. 24 pages for a day 1 is TOO LONG.

[alvinz95]

If you agreed with this line of thought, why did you say nothing about it the first time it was used?

Merely borrowing your quote

In all honesty I thought that by using your quote I was agreeing with your previous uses of the quote. But apparently I lack communication skills.

Vote: Mellowed Man

His last post basically sealed it for me. Also this day is dragging on. Quite honestly I share coheed's sentiment about wanting the game to go into night now. 24 pages for a day 1 is TOO LONG.

I believe thats L-2.

[Matt_S]

Actually, that looks to be L-1, which is a little too close for an unclaimed person who people want to kill.

Unvote

[iamausername]

I don't know why we couldn't have done this when I was advocating it a month ago, because Mellowed Man has been acting this scummy the whole way through, but whatever.

This is a phantom L-1 vote, because we don't want someone hammering just yet; let's have a claim, please.

[CoheedCambria09]

I was just about to ask if this was the point where mellowed claims, but you alreadt gave me the answer.