Open 65 - Mini Love (Over!) before 578

[Korts]

Making a point of trying to do the math and then failing

Hey, I

said

mathyness was not my strong point. I'd rather vote based on whether I think Korts or dahill seems scummier, anyway.

That's one of the reasons why it's only a pinky finger of suspicion.

[Korts]

The other reason is that it's way cooler pointing with your pinky.

[eldarad]

I think you guys are wrong. If we lynch Korts and he is not scum at what point do you lynch the lovers to find out if one is scum?

We don't. We let the mafia kill the lovers, so we're guaranteed to find the treacherous lover in the aftermath.
Why should we lynch the townie lovers? We'd just be doing the mafia's job for them.

[armlx]

Again, lynch lovers is bad as at best its 3 for 1 and at worst 5 for 1. And 3 for 1 is an even trade based on the set up %ages. So at best, town breaks even......

[Korts]

I think you guys are wrong. If we lynch Korts and he is not scum at what point do you lynch the lovers to find out if one is scum?

We don't. We let the mafia kill the lovers, so we're guaranteed to find the treacherous lover in the aftermath.
Why should we lynch the townie lovers? We'd just be doing the mafia's job for them.

What makes you sure the mafia would kill the lovers? I may be slow, but I just can't follow why they would decide to eliminate the town lovers when that would only cast suspicion on the treacherous lover's pair.

[armlx]

Basically killing any lovers is disadvantageous for both sides until the game is already more or less over.

[farside22]

Basically killing any lovers is disadvantageous for both sides until the game is already more or less over.

So why leave it in the scum hands to decide?

[ThAdmiral]

Vote Count:

Korts - 3

(Dahill, Armlx, Eldarad)

Dahill - 2

(Farside, Korts)

Babygirl - 1

(Coron)

Not Voting -

(Kravhen, Silence, Sethaniel, ABR)

With 10 alive, it is 6 to lynch.

Deadline in about 24 hours

[armlx]

Basically killing any lovers is disadvantageous for both sides until the game is already more or less over.

So why leave it in the scum hands to decide?

Because its equally terrible for them to kill a lover as well until doing so ends the game. Doing so turns a possible 5 for 1 into a assured 3 for 1.

[eldarad]

Good.
Now that we've sorted that out, what do our non-voters think?

[silence]

Deadline is approaching and unfortunately I don't have time for further considerations, so by my current position

Vote: Korts

[ThAdmiral]

Vote Count:

Korts - 4

(Dahill, Armlx, Eldarad, Silence)

Dahill - 2

(Farside, Korts)

Babygirl - 1

(Coron)

Not Voting -

(Kravhen, Sethaniel, ABR)

With 10 alive, it is 6 to lynch.

Deadline in about 5 and a 1/2 hours

[kravhen]

I'm still not sure where to allocate my vote... but I'm sure of this.
I'm not voting townies. I don't care about all the math you can feed me to prove or disprove a point about the lover plan, but guys... This is still mafia. We just keep doing our thang and lynch the scum. That's as simple as I can put it. We got a scum on day 1, pretty good, I'm confident we can get another one if we stop getting distracted by strange and obscure plans about lynching lovers. That's just confusing, the results are debatable and unclear... in other words, it's just not pro-town enough a plan for me to support.

Stop going after lovers. 4 lovers, only 1 scum in there. Just lynch another scum instead.
Just like someone else pointed out, isn't it just better to leave the lovers alive as long as possible? They can act as "untouchables" by scum, because as soon as they kill a single lover, the pairs' alignments are revealed and we pretty much jump on the scum-sheltering pair.

[kravhen]

EBWOP: O shit... just realized there was a deadline.. like NOW.
well crap, thats not much time to work here...
I personally don't have a big of a case on Korts but I do think his giving up stance (multiple times, too) is still odd... Ironically enough, I've done that kind of thing as a townie before because I thought it was cool or honorful and all those pretty colors, so i can sorta relate a bit... so I can't possibly vote him simply for that personally.

I'm officially considering it as a non-tell. But it seems the town has already chosen Korts. I guess now is the time when we wait and cross our fingers.

[Korts]

Well, so long and thanks for all the fish. Probably no-one's going to check in and unvote now, so anyway. Thanks, go town, woo, etc. Bye.

[eldarad]

Well, so long and thanks for all the fish.

Man, I've always wanted to say that...

I'm off to Rome in about 90 minutes. I may miss the start of the Day when it restarts. I

don't

need replacing.

[Korts]

have a good time

[ThAdmiral]

Vote Count:

Korts - 4

(Dahill, Armlx, Eldarad, Silence)

Dahill - 2

(Farside, Korts)

Babygirl - 1

(Coron)

Not Voting -

(Kravhen, Sethaniel, ABR)

"I know I had some crazy idea's but that doesn't mean I'm scum" Korts says as the town members gather around him.
"But it looks like you've already made your mind up."

Korts kneels to the ground and closes his eyes.

"Get it over with quickly, will ya."

The town oblige, smashing his head with a wooden 4x4 plank.
Afterwards they search his body for a weapon or other mafia identification object but find nothing.

The town realise they've made a mistake. And

Korts

paid the price for it.

It is now night!

Please send your night choices in. As soon as this is done day 3 will start.

[ThAdmiral]

It is a new day.

The town wakes up on edge, anticipating another dead body.

However when they do a head count no one is missing.

It is now day 4!

With 9 alive, it is 5 to lynch

[armlx]

So ABR has a confirmed innocent. Is revealing worth it?

[Albert B. Rampage]

I protected farside.

[armlx]

I protected farside.

Fair nuff. I guess in this scenario the mafia would know who the confirmed innocent is anyways as they made the kill, so there's no harm in revealing. I'm just really bad at knowing when to reveal innocents with regards to cops.

[Albert B. Rampage]

How do you feel about dahill, armlx ?

[armlx]

I'm not sure. I'm sorta ignoring the whole lover scenario until I absolutely have to decide.

[dahill1]

i'm a little confused as to why the mafia wouldn't kill the doc?