Mini 584: Sudo_Nym Presents- Over!

[icemanE]

Not only was he highly scummy yesterday, if anyone had motivation to kill me off, it was him.

Wait, so this is an OMGUS vote? If anyone had motivation to kill you off? What the hell are you talking about.

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

Are you voting for me? Couldn't be an OMGUS vote.

I pursued you heavily day 1. At night, as mafia, you might have tried to kill me because of this. Assuming greasy spot is telling the truth, someone tried to kill me, and you would have had motivation to do so. I can't believe that's at all hard to grasp.

[icemanE]

Are you voting for me? Couldn't be an OMGUS vote.

I pursued you heavily day 1. At night, as mafia, you might have tried to kill me because of this. Assuming greasy spot is telling the truth, someone tried to kill me, and you would have had motivation to do so. I can't believe that's at all hard to grasp.

Well first of all... no, I'm not voting you. Should I?

Secondly, yes, its quite hard to grasp, since its clearly something you pulled out of your ass to justify your vote for me.

[Sudo_Nym]

Vote Count:

icemanE 2

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Lowell, TheSweatpantsNinja

Greasy Spot 1-

Thestatusquo

[FaerieLord]

I think he's trying to bait the real doc, which is more or less why I hate doc claims when someone gets to L-1 after being all scummy. It's like a free doc kill for scum for getting caught. Get a townie on your side (it's almost certain TSN is town either way) and force the real doc out of hiding.

One very stupid move =/= all scummy.

I pursued you heavily day 1. At night, as mafia, you might have tried to kill me because of this. Assuming greasy spot is telling the truth, someone tried to kill me, and you would have had motivation to do so. I can't believe that's at all hard to grasp.

Oh god, what a bunch of wifom

Well first of all... no, I'm not voting you. Should I?

Well, you decide!

Secondly, yes, its quite hard to grasp, since its clearly something you pulled out of your ass to justify your vote for me.

He has been on you for two days...It'd be a bit late to pull crap out of his ass

[Johoohno]

I think he's trying to bait the real doc, which is more or less why I hate doc claims when someone gets to L-1 after being all scummy. It's like a free doc kill for scum for getting caught. Get a townie on your side (it's almost certain TSN is town either way) and force the real doc out of hiding.

One very stupid move =/= all scummy.

I don't understand what you are saying with this FaerieLord. Please clarify.

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

Oh god, what a bunch of wifom

Granted. But its still something, and he was already my top suspect before zeek became a town liability.

Also, iceman: Not a defense! Anyway, please explain your attitude toward mafiassk yesterday. Has it changed now that he's tsq? If so, why, because you were so sure he was scum yesterday.

[FaerieLord]

I don't understand what you are saying with this FaerieLord. Please clarify.

Gladly. Lowell said that Greasy is acting all scummy. Greasy only (granted it's a big move) hammered. That's not all scummy. It's just "one very very scummy thing."

[icemanE]

It's just "one very very scummy thing."

Yeah, it's very very scummy. Why are you defending him?

[Lowell]

unvote, vote GS

. This claim reeks to me. I believe there's a doc, but I dont' believe its him. Letting him off the hook is only forcing the doc to reveal.

I'll still vote iceman, too, btw.

[Johoohno]

Mod:

Prod CaptainCake, Marmalade, Sir Tornado (and replace if necessary).

I want to know if the claim will be countered or not.

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

Greasy Spot's play was abysmally stupid, scum or town. Scummy? Not exactly, but its the kind of play that needs to be strongly discouraged. On the other hand, lynching an uncounterclaimed doc, maybe not such a good idea.

[FaerieLord]

Yeah, it's very very scummy. Why are you defending him?

1)Because the day is still ripe
2)Because I don't want to kill an uncounterclaimed doc yet

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

Letting him off the hook is only forcing the doc to reveal.

Whoa, skimmed right over this. The doc needs to counterclaim, if there's an actual doc. First of all, there are probably only three scum. If GS is one of them, then that's one out of three. Also, since chances are the doctor almost definitely prevented the kill means we'd have another confirmed townie. So that's essentially one scum and one confirmed innocent that you're providing us, which is about all you can hope for out of a power role. Also, the longer you wait, the less likely we are to believe you.

So if you're the doc, speak now.

[FaerieLord]

What he said

[Thestatusquo]

So, in absence of a counter-claim. (or anything else that can explain the lack of kill from last night, for instance if you are a RB it might be in the towns best interest for you to claim here...) I think that we have to assume that Greasy spot and TSPN are pro town.

therefore,

Unvote Greasy

(makes a mental note to add him to the list of players never to play with again.)

Now, on to more pressing things.

I have a town read on FL,
I have a slightly townie read on iceman (could flip this on a re-read, remember it's a newb town read, which is only slightly different from a newb scum read.)
TSPN is town by logic of N1
GreasySpot is town by logic of N1
I see myself as town.

This leaves me with:
TDC
Marmalade
Lowell
CaptainCake
Sir Tornado
Johoohno

And probably 2-3 scums.

Would really like more participation from every single one of those players, so that we can have a productive day 2. Sir T in particular would be nice.

[icemanE]

After a reread I'm gonna have to

FoS: Lowell

for being the most blatant bandwagoner on the planet.

[icemanE]

Also, and this is funny, Lowell moved his vote TO GS only AFTER GS claimed doc. Scummiest move I think I've ever seen: he wasn't voting for GS until he learned that he was doc. That's so ridiculously scummy I can't help but change my FoS to:

vote: Lowell

I suggest you all take a look at him as well.

[icemanE]

Also, iceman: Not a defense! Anyway, please explain your attitude toward mafiassk yesterday. Has it changed now that he's tsq? If so, why, because you were so sure he was scum yesterday.

No, my suspicions have not gone away, but they have cooled off, now that status is here. However I have been looking into other people lately as no one agreed with me on mafiaSSK.

[Lowell]

Also, and this is funny, Lowell moved his vote TO GS only AFTER GS claimed doc. Scummiest move I think I've ever seen: he wasn't voting for GS until he learned that he was doc. That's so ridiculously scummy I can't help but change my FoS to:

vote: Lowell

I suggest you all take a look at him as well.

I wasn't voting him because I was voting you. My vote on him now is to demonstrate my not believing his claim. The doc claim makes him MORE suspicious in my eyes, not less.

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

So, lowell, we have no kills N1. We have a claimed doctor that would be the obvious source of preventing that kill. We have no counterclaim. And your conclusion is, "he must be lying"? Are you serious?

[Thestatusquo]

Also, and this is funny, Lowell moved his vote TO GS only AFTER GS claimed doc. Scummiest move I think I've ever seen: he wasn't voting for GS until he learned that he was doc. That's so ridiculously scummy I can't help but change my FoS to:

vote: Lowell

I suggest you all take a look at him as well.

I wasn't voting him because I was voting you. My vote on him now is to demonstrate my not believing his claim. The doc claim makes him MORE suspicious in my eyes, not less.

Unless someone counterclaims or offers us a equally plausible explanation of last night...How is he NOT cleared town?

[FaerieLord]

Also, and this is funny, Lowell moved his vote TO GS only AFTER GS claimed doc. Scummiest move I think I've ever seen: he wasn't voting for GS until he learned that he was doc. That's so ridiculously scummy I can't help but change my FoS to:

vote: Lowell

I suggest you all take a look at him as well.

Weren't you outing me for protecting GS? Why the change of heart now?

Also, I am not getting what Lowell is trying to say.

[Greasy Spot]

I am not trying to throw the light off my bad behavior in this game but there is no one to protect me from a NK. Scum know I am an easy target tonight.

[Johoohno]

I am not trying to throw the light off my bad behavior in this game but

there is no one to protect me from a NK

. Scum know I am an easy target tonight.

Do you know something of the game setup?

(My boldings in quote above)