Realistic Mafia - Game Over

[Surye]

Surye, if you had just stopped to

think

for two seconds, you would have realized that you were positing at least a 4-man Corsican scumgroup (and didn't you see the hints that there might even be a third group?)

Also, you have Awesome Pants reporting two people, are you sure you didn't get him mixed up with a different cop?

Also, are there any cops in the bottomless police department that haven't been revealed yet? Don't say their names, just confirm or deny.

1) I know that's what I was suggesting, I didn't like it, but look at all the facts. EVERYTHING lined up, but I wanted to let everyone get a chance to vote and AP to respond. But I feared if I was right he could take me out, so that is why I tried to tie him down.

2) No, I didn't say he was reporting two people, N1 he reported Celeb, N2 he reported Crub. Where's the issue?

3) Yes.

Also got a late report from a Cop saying N1 they investigated NabNab and came up clean.

But these investigations are turning out to be very complicated things, and I'm having less faith in them.

[NabakovNabakov]

1) I know that's what I was suggesting, I didn't like it, but look at all the facts. EVERYTHING lined up, but I wanted to let everyone get a chance to vote and AP to respond. But I feared if I was right he could take me out, so that is why I tried to tie him down.

Fair enough

2) No, I didn't say he was reporting two people, N1 he reported Celeb, N2 he reported Crub. Where's the issue?

The problem is you didn't tell us that in your first post today. Timelines FTW

3) Yes.

Really? Jesus.

I think in order would be a table of investigations for all three nights so far. Just use MysteryCop1 (2,3, etc) for unidentified cops and show which investigations were not handed in.

[Awesome Pants]

Bah. :S

Go town!

[Surye]

1) I know that's what I was suggesting, I didn't like it, but look at all the facts. EVERYTHING lined up, but I wanted to let everyone get a chance to vote and AP to respond. But I feared if I was right he could take me out, so that is why I tried to tie him down.

Fair enough

2) No, I didn't say he was reporting two people, N1 he reported Celeb, N2 he reported Crub. Where's the issue?

The problem is you didn't tell us that in your first post today. Timelines FTW

3) Yes.

Really? Jesus.

I think in order would be a table of investigations for all three nights so far. Just use MysteryCop1 (2,3, etc) for unidentified cops and show which investigations were not handed in.

I talked about the Celeb investigation yesterday, thought it would follow, sorry.

Table is a great idea, will make one up in a few.

[armlx]

The issue of false negatives on investigations now being proven is mildly awkward to say the least. That list would still be nice though.

[Crub]

Surye reading the night flavour indicates that even though Cop x might report a false positive, Cop y might be tampering with the result before you see it. Which would also explain why Nat found NabNab and GW innocent and you received "illegal activities".

[Surye]

Surye reading the night flavour indicates that even though Cop x might report a false positive, Cop y might be tampering with the result before you see it. Which would also explain why Nat found NabNab and GW innocent and you received "illegal activities".

Yes, I considered that. It really throws a wrench in this whole thing. That also explains why there are a shitton of cops

[armlx]

The sheer volume of cops is really surprising.

Also, noticed this on reread.

[quote="KaleiÐoscøpe"]

Corsican goons terrorize the streets!

Rivalry out of balance

The police department has noted us the decreasement of member recruitments of the Sicilian mafia. Secret investigators found out people have little faith in the Sicilian mafia anymore, and that a large part of their community is getting robbed by Corsican goons. When we asked the police department what they are doing against their crimes, they witholded themselves from commenting.[/quote]

Not sure if it means anything and it probably doesn't, but just pointing it out.

[NabakovNabakov]

I'm just going to put it out there that there was no indication of my having been investigated last night (and I remained in my home the entire night)

[Surye]

Cop - Investigatee - Result

Current Investigation Status:
Night 0:
DrippingGoofball - Flameaxe - Townie
Awesome Pants - CyberBob - Aggressive
dahill1 - BattleMage - Aggressive
Natirasha - NabakovNabakov - Found w/ GW doing "Illegal things"
Khelvaster - No Report
Cop 1 - No Report

Night 1:
DrippingGoofball - No Report
Awesome Pants - Celebloki - Innocent "According to home"
dahill1 - Protected Me
Natirasha - armlx- Innocent "According to home"
Khelvaster - No Report
Cop 1 - No Report - Later told me investigated NabNab, was not home, appeared innocent according to home.

Night 2:
DrippingGoofball - Invesigated Nat I guess, report is odd, but they were together.
Awesome Pants - Crub - Innocent
Natirasha - Invesigated DGB I guess, report is odd, but they were together.
Cop 1 - Awesome Pants and Crub - Criminal Activities

[SensFan]

You don't happen to know who Khelv might have formed his masonry with, do you?

I don't want a name, just a "Yes" or "No".

[armlx]

People I trust right now based on role/cop results:
Natashira
Surye
DGB
Awesome Pants
crub

These people have something strongly clearing them, ie investigation or claim or what not.

People I am leaning pro-town on based on actions/results:
Sykedoc
GhostWriter
Nabakov
armlx

Nothing:
Hjallti
Singing Librarian
Sensfan

Can Hjallti die now?

Moved around based on new info (cop results, Bloki being scum, etc).

[Surye]

You don't happen to know who Khelv might have formed his masonry with, do you?

I don't want a name, just a "Yes" or "No".

Yes in fact.

[Surye]

Vote: Hjallti

Lets finish what we started last night.

[armlx]

Yeah, I actually tried to finish it yesterday but found a gun was slightly unavailable to me.

Vote Hjallti

[DrippingGoofball]

unvote, vote: Hjallti

[GhostWriter]

Vote: Hjallti

This vote works for me.

[armlx]

L-2, claim and or die.

[Singing Librarian]

I'm not sure that we can place any faith at all in the reports the mayor has been getting from the cops - the cop sending in the report may be innocent, but it seems to be someone tampering with the paperwork, who is probably one of the cops known to Surye. There doesn't even appear to be a pattern to which investigations end up returning true reports to the mayor (if you look at AwesomePants' results, for example).

[armlx]

I'm not sure that we can place any faith at all in the reports the mayor has been getting from the cops - the cop sending in the report may be innocent, but it seems to be someone tampering with the paperwork, who is probably one of the cops known to Surye. There doesn't even appear to be a pattern to which investigations end up returning true reports to the mayor (if you look at AwesomePants' results, for example).

We realize. The list has been rearranged as such.

[Hjallti]

??? Dzjeez armlx has no reason to suspect me except that I am not confirmed and none of the cops go out to confirm me, and yet I am at L-2 at this point. I don't understand it.

I am not going to claim fully because it would cost my life, but I have some possible night actions which I used in secret and from which I could deduce eventually that Celebloki was scum and I vigged him as soon as I knew.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Mod: With 11 alive, is it 6 to lynch? We're all still not positive on this point with all the day killings going on

It's math. 11/2=5.5, rounding up because of majority makes 6.

[armlx]

??? Dzjeez armlx has no reason to suspect me except that I am not confirmed and none of the cops go out to confirm me, and yet I am at L-2 at this point. I don't understand it.

I am not going to claim fully because it would cost my life, but I have some possible night actions which I used in secret and from which I could deduce eventually that Celebloki was scum and I vigged him as soon as I knew.

Refusal to claim when the other option is death is a sign of stupidity or scuminess.

[Surye]

I'm not sure that we can place any faith at all in the reports the mayor has been getting from the cops - the cop sending in the report may be innocent, but it seems to be someone tampering with the paperwork, who is probably one of the cops known to Surye. There doesn't even appear to be a pattern to which investigations end up returning true reports to the mayor (if you look at AwesomePants' results, for example).

I don't think awesome pants' reports were changed, or he would have said something to me, I was open about investigation reports, so if they differed then what was sent, they would have PMed me at night, or if they claimed already, tell town.

[Singing Librarian]

The problem with Awesome's results is that mafiate Celebloki came up as innocent (though in the weaker-seeming 'according to home' semse), which we know not to be true, though the read on Cyberbob was accurate.

Last night I used my ???? action to do some digging into the on-line archives of the local newspapers, which suggested that the mafia, when they've infiltrated the police department in the past, have affected the way that information is distributed. This concept seems slightly different to what was reported in this morning's paper, and may be worth bearing in mind.