Elemental Mafia- Game Over!

[Cavebear with a toothache]

But that would mean that if mneme is scum, he really IS a recruiter... Could I be so wrong? I mean, yeah, sure, of course I could, I guess, but I had him pegged as very much more likely to be recruit than recruiter. Now, taking into consideration Adel's "random" vote and then leaving him be, I guess he's probably innocent. I was hoping she'd left some kind of crumb too, but I can't find anything in "that is all" (there's a Haida goddess of peaceful death named Tia, but I doubt that means anything) and she never mentions mneme again.

As for DGB... I'm a bit hesitant; as Macavenger said, DGB couldn't have confirmed being blocked if she didn't try to do something that failed. I never got any indication that I was blocked, for example. It seems very ballsy to act this way if she's a recruiter, but I suppose it would have been a good way to set up a fake claim. That leaves the question of why she's been so silent all day today. My first impulse was that she was recruited, but I've obviously been wrong about this before. For a while earlier, I was thinking that maybe DGB and Macavenger were in it together as scum, but that doesn't seem very likely either.

But if she is town, she should have some kind of N1 investigative result. Demanding that she claim one is probably a good way to work out if she should be lynched.

This does make sense. Let's try it out.

Unvote
Vote: DGB

[Macavenger]

Unvote; Vote: mneme

I can possibly buy into this guilty theory. We might also be able to semi-test Kison's claim, depending on what mneme comes up.

FTR I'm willing to kill basically anyone on Xtoxm's list still. mneme also has the largest wagon of that list, and we're falling way behind schedule.

[Macavenger]

ABWOP: Still want to see a DGB claim even though I'm not voting her right now.

[Muerrto]

Hmm...I'm still in the camp Adel's vote was too quick and too quickly discarded. There are 4 recruiters. Killing 1 day 1 would have been phenomonal.

Also, in this game, if Adel had claimed cop, we'd kill Nmeme and get a recruiter. We DON'T go to night immediately like other games, the cops are unrecruitable, and the cults would have to give up a recruit to kill her.

In short, there is absolutely no downside to come forward as a cop on day 1 if she got a guilty night 0. Period. There's only 2 people in the whole game that she can investigate successfully(that matter). Killing one day 1 would have been MUCH greater than not claiming. Period.

I'm quite disturbed people are saying it could be a guilty.

I'm placing that blame on Pooky atm and once again I'm very happy with his lynch. I'll have to re-read to see who actually started it tho. I'm not at all happy with a Nmeme lynch at this point.

Only thing I can figure is that since Adel knew Nmeme wasn't 1 of 2 cults, she was prodding to see if he was 1 of the other 2.

Now, if Adel's specific play is against cop claims like it sounds like people are saying, then she simply played wrong this game with regards to her role if she did get a guilty. I put more stock in the innocent result.

[dahill1]

Vote Count

(5) Mneme: (Xtoxm, Armlx, Farside, Pooky, Macavenger)
(3) DGB: (Muerrto, Andycyca, Cavebear)
(3) Cavebear: (Elvis Knits, Mneme, Kison)

(3) Not voting: (DGB, Erg0, DR)

With 14 of you alive, 8 votes are still required to lynch.

[Kison]

we know she voted him early day one with no reasoning attached.

It's what we call the

random voting stage

.

Unvote; Vote: mneme

I can possibly buy into this guilty theory. We might also be able to semi-test Kison's claim, depending on what mneme comes up.

This won't test anything. I can 100% guarantee you that any role claim in the future will lack Mneme as their target for Night One or Night Two unless that person is scum or ABR. This is a semi large risk for me to take. I also guarantee that Mneme is either a cult recruiter or whatever he claimed to be(Vanilla?). So if he comes up recruiter, my claim will not be disqualified, but it may throw a spin on whether or not you believe it.

Unvote

Vote : DGB

DGB, where have you disappeared to?

Question : Has anyone seen Adel as a Cop or some other variant before? If so, I would appreciate it if you'd tell me what game. I sorted through a bunch of her games and haven't found anything yet.

[Cavebear with a toothache]

In short, there is absolutely no downside to come forward as a cop on day 1 if she got a guilty night 0. Period. There's only 2 people in the whole game that she can investigate successfully(that matter). Killing one day 1 would have been MUCH greater than not claiming. Period.

I agree, this makes sense, but the question is if Adel thought about this. There is this quote:

if a cop had a successful investigation last night, that person should only claim if they are within a few votes of getting lynched (waiting until lynch -1 for a claim will slow us down too much)

She probably thought she had much more time to set up the mneme lynch if she really did have a guilty.

So again back to mneme? Guys, I'm not really comfortable with all the jumping around like this; it's not totally unproductive seeing as how we do get some interesting information, but we've got to actually lynch someone soon. Looming deadline etc. I'll be back in a couple of hours; until then, I figure my vote is more useful on the mneme wagon.

Unvote, vote: mneme

Last minute edit before post:

It's what we call the random voting stage.

It wasn't all that random if she investigated him. Question is, does it mean he was guilty or innocent?

[armlx]

Adel's not going to vote him in the random stage if she has an innocent.......

Can we stop wasting time already and finish this?

[Muerrto]

Unvote, Vote: Nmeme

I don't like it but stalling the lynches sucks...

There is no downside to immediately claiming day 1 as a cop with a guilty in this game.

HOWEVER, Cave's quote he found definitely says that Adel thought she had time, she didn't expect to get killed by a Vig. It also hints that she had a guilty result.

I guess Adel didn't claim for that reason, perhaps she had planned to.

I hope we're right...

[Muerrto]

That's 7 btw

[Kison]

Unvote

Vote : Mneme

May God have mercy on your soul.

[armlx]

Finally we get something done.

Cavebear next, or DGB?

[Muerrto]

*crosses fingers*

[dahill1]

Vote Count

(8) Mneme: (Xtoxm, Armlx, Farside, Pooky, Macavenger, Cavebear, Muerrto, Kison)
(2) Cavebear: (Elvis Knits, Mneme)
(1) DGB: (Andycyca)

(3) Not voting: (DGB, Erg0, DR)

With 14 of you alive, 8 votes are still required to lynch.

That's a lynch! No more voting until lynch scene, and no more talking from mneme.

[armlx]

Cavebear next, or DGB?

This should be determined now.

[Muerrto]

Mod: With a really strict deadline restricting our voting times is kind of bad. That's why last time someone died I immediately re-voted someone else.

With a multi lynch day, how is this twilight? What if BM doesn't post a lynch scene till monday?

[Muerrto]

Mod: Other alternative is not counting twilight in the deadline of the game. I know this game is a new idea so trying to give advice as to how to make it more balanced and fair to the players. Just constructive criticism.

[dahill1]

Mod: With a really strict deadline restricting our voting times is kind of bad. That's why last time someone died I immediately re-voted someone else.

With a multi lynch day, how is this twilight? What if BM doesn't post a lynch scene till monday?

BM is usually pretty active, and should post a scene soon. It's not technically "twilight" (which is after the entire day ends), but it is confusing to count votes after a lynch has been made.

[Muerrto]

Mod: With a really strict deadline restricting our voting times is kind of bad. That's why last time someone died I immediately re-voted someone else.

With a multi lynch day, how is this twilight? What if BM doesn't post a lynch scene till monday?

BM is usually pretty active, and should post a scene soon. It's not technically "twilight" (which is after the entire day ends), but it is confusing to count votes after a lynch has been made.

Agreed. Just makes the deadline worse tho is what I'm saying. We rushed lynches yesterday to make it and killed half the town. Would be nice to not have to do that. Might be a good idea in the future games.

[Muerrto]

Cavebear next, or DGB?

This should be determined now.

I need a result first.

[armlx]

Cavebear next, or DGB?

This should be determined now.

I need a result first.

I don't mneme's cult or no changes my opinion of those two at all.

[Muerrto]

Shrug, DGB then because she's useless to the town as a lurker who doesn't vote and she's likely to be a recruiter because of it.

[armlx]

Ok, so everyone vote DGB as soon as we get to that point that we can.

[Battle Mage]

Mod: With a really strict deadline restricting our voting times is kind of bad. That's why last time someone died I immediately re-voted someone else.

With a multi lynch day, how is this twilight? What if BM doesn't post a lynch scene till monday?

Quick response, because obviously 10 minutes for me to post a lynch scene is vital in this game. lol
In reality, there is no twilight phase of this game. And yes, i will still count votes made after the lynch but before the lynch scene. It just makes it exceptionally complicated to update the votecount when people do this, hence Dahill's concern.

And indeed, I usually check the thread every 8 hours at the very least (hey-everyone needs to sleep right?)

But, if there are any major delays in providing lynchscenes, rest assured that i will grant a deadline extension

corresponding to that time lost

.

BM

[Battle Mage]

Vote Count

(8) Mneme: (Xtoxm, Armlx, Farside, Pooky, Macavenger, Cavebear, Muerrto, Kison)
(2) Cavebear: (Elvis Knits, Mneme)
(1) DGB: (Andycyca)

(3) Not voting: (DGB, Erg0, DR)

With 14 of you alive, 8 votes are still required to lynch.

With all 4 cults still intact, the town was getting desperate, and eventually turned its attention to Mneme, despite the only consensus being the haste required to get a lynch. But, by all accounts, it paid off!

Mneme - Earth Recruiter, drowned in the well, Day 2

At last the town had made it's mark on the cults. They all hoped they could ride this success and it would be the start of their road to victory!

With 13 of you alive, 7 votes are now enough to invoke a lynch.

BM