Mature Mafia: Game Over

[mathcam]

No.

No to what? No, you refuse to engage in reasonable discussion?

I don't believe Jathan is screwing with us because Emptyger told him to, or that Jathan is a by-product of a role. Seems far-fetched to me, and not fair considering the other stuff we have to deal with in this game.

It seems far more far-fetched to me than SL would post in a game he's not in, a game that happens to be ill-equipped to deal with such an interloper.

Cam

[DrippingGoofball]

mathcam, I'm looking really hard, I'm reading your post over and over, but I can't seem to find your claim.

Can you point it out to me?

Many thanks.

[Adel]

unvote, vote:DGB

[mathcam]

mathcam, I'm looking really hard, I'm reading your post over and over, but I can't seem to find your claim.

Which post were you reading?

Don't you think it would be better to take a broader stance and examine all my posts not only for a claim, but also for remarkably compelling reasons why I shouldn't claim in the first place?

Honestly, DGB. I'm not going to make a demonstrably bad play just because you refuse to listen to -- nay, even consider listening to -- reason.

Cam

[DrippingGoofball]

Don't you think it would be better to take a broader stance and examine all my posts not only for a claim...

Oh, so there's a claim. Where is it?

[ShadowLurker]

i hope this doesnt come off as omgus but i find it suspicious that the editing of posts stopped right after adel thought there might be penalties for the scum for editing posts

[Adel]

ok so all players in this game were granted moderator rights and so have the ability to edit their own posts.

@Shadowlurker: please edit your above post (#230) to prove that you are legally allowed to post in this game thread. Otherwise you risk not only being considered a rude interloper, you risk the wrath of everyone playing in this game.

[Talitha]

Where's Coron when you need a vote count?

After catching up on the last several pages I've sort of gone off cam as a lynchee. He's right that there really isn't a case against him. Also, the

must claim at lynch-1

thing is news to me. I think that in any game the when and if of claiming should be up to the individual. If we don't like it we can vote to lynch them.

I am interested in both the DGB and Raj wagons, but wondering whether they are scum or just tantalising lynch bait. Raj's post 129 in particular made me want to vote him.

Then there's logicticus, who raised my hackles a little as I was reading through.

Some things that are confusing me:
1. Shadow Lurker - Do you think you're playing in this game? Why? Your posts here don't seem to fit the troll profile.
2. If we all have some kind of mod powers, how come zu_faul said he was vanilla (or whatever it was that people saw before the post got edited)?
3. What happens to our powers when we die? Can we delegate someone else to continue our job?
4. Why do posts 87-91 read so weird? Did someone edit them?
5. Would it actually hurt if we all claimed? It might make the game easier.

[Phoebus]

A modless game is one thing but I'm having certain reservations about an interloping player.

I am not too happy about this.
We need to have some sort of consensus on it.

It's enough that we need to figure out what exactly is happening here with the mod refusing to answer questions with original answers. I'm not interested in getting my brain frazzled with randomness.

As far as I'm concerned, his posts could just be nuked.
Persona non grata - until proven otherwise.

[Macros]

sorry foir my absence but the weekend is fun times for macros, going golfing now, i'll read upto date later (post 5ish gmt)

[Phoebus]

Golf?!

[Axelrod]

Some things that are confusing me:
1. Shadow Lurker - Do you think you're playing in this game? Why? Your posts here don't seem to fit the troll profile.
2. If we all have some kind of mod powers, how come zu_faul said he was vanilla (or whatever it was that people saw before the post got edited)?
3. What happens to our powers when we die? Can we delegate someone else to continue our job?
4. Why do posts 87-91 read so weird? Did someone edit them?
5. Would it actually hurt if we all claimed? It might make the game easier.

1. Shadowlurker posts in games he is not playing. He's rude like that. That is my current assumption here as well.
2. I have not been assuming that everyone has Mod. powers (or rather, Mod. duties). Completely vanilla townies seem very possible.
3. Dunno.
4. posts 87-91 have not been edited, I remember that sequence.
5. I don't think it would hurt too much for the claiming of "Mod" powers, as I suspect they don't have much effect on the overall game.

I still want Mathcan to claim for devious reasons of my own devising.

[elvis_knits]

I think shadowlurker is a red herring and whoever has the ability should modkill/delete his posts.

It is very weird to me that people are thinking he is somehow part of the game. If you know something, spill it. Otherwise, Jathan is just a punk distracting us.

[Glork]

1. Shadowlurker posts in games he is not playing. He's rude like that. That is my current assumption here as well.

That's currently what I'm thinking, but I'm going to ask a few other not-in-the-game people if they have mod powers or not. If so, I'm going to ask for replacement, as I feel the game would be compromised (because I could see SL screwing around with posts). If not, SL continues to be an annoying-but-harmless little boy.

2. I have not been assuming that everyone has Mod. powers (or rather, Mod. duties). Completely vanilla townies seem very possible.

Bzzt. Seriously, guys. Use the signup thread. I think it's the most guidance we're going to get in this game.

[Phoebus]

1. Shadowlurker posts in games he is not playing. He's rude like that. That is my current assumption here as well.

Is this a fact?
Can you link to other games?

If there is a "body of rudeness", I'd consider appealing to the Boss.
That is one distraction we could definitely do without here.

[Phoebus]

That's currently what I'm thinking, but I'm going to ask a few other not-in-the-game people if they have mod powers or not.

Actually, I've been wondering about this.

How were mod powers achieved without being added to a certain group?
I'm aware groups can be hidden from public view but the people in the groups know about its existence.

Did any of you get any notification of being added to a group?
I already have powers as a List Mod. I was wondering if perhaps people with modding privileges in Theme Park were the only ones with edit capabilities.
That theory has been shot...but yeah...what's the deal?

Like I mentioned before, I was not impressed with the mod's reply about SL and replacement has crossed my mind. At this time though, it seems a little hasty and petulant...

Thoughts?

[Glork]

Okay, I just spoke to Mizzy, and here's what she gets:

You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot moderate your topics in this forum

I just logged in as Gaspar, and here's what I see:

You can post new topics in this forum
You can reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You can vote in polls in this forum
You cannot moderate your topics in this forum

I am going to ask Mizzy to try to post here. I am also going to make a test post with Gaspar, and then I will try to edit it.

[Phoebus]

Triple post. Sorry but...

Tals

...did the approval for this come from you?
Or should that be checked with the Boss also?

This is not some weird Ten Little Indians Thing going on here, is it?

[Glork]

EBWOP: Fixing tags

Okay, I just spoke to Mizzy, and here's what she gets:

You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot moderate your topics in this forum

I just logged in as Gaspar, and here's what I see:

You can post new topics in this forum
You can reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You can vote in polls in this forum
You cannot moderate your topics in this forum

I am going to ask Mizzy to try to post here. I am also going to make a test post with Gaspar, and then I will try to edit it.

[Gaspar]

Test post by Gaspar, as Glork...

[Glork]

I'm reasonably certain that ShadowLurker can't moderate anything. I would suggest that, for archiving purposes, we leave the posts he has made thus far and simply delete all future posts of his on sight.

[Axelrod]

1. Shadowlurker posts in games he is not playing. He's rude like that. That is my current assumption here as well.

Is this a fact?
Can you link to other games?

If there is a "body of rudeness", I'd consider appealing to the Boss.
That is one distraction we could definitely do without here.

Possibly I am being unfair here. I was looking at the endgame of raj's "War to End all Freaktowns" and happened to see SL posting there when he was not playing - but it looks like he might have been helping the Mod. at some point during that game, which makes some difference. Dunno.

@Glork: I am aware that everyone in the game has "Modding Privileges". This is not the same as everyone having a specific "duty" as part of this game (like Elvis saying he's the "Executioner" etc.) I think some people have the Mod. privileges but no specific Mod. related duties to go with them.

Either that or zu_Faul was scum and lied when he said he was vanilla, and the scum are being allowed to hide the fact that scum was NKed (which begs the question "Who killed zu_Faul if he himself was scum").

Or zu_Faul was town but lied about being vanilla after his death? I doubt that.

[Glork]

Oh, I see. Sorry, I misunderstood. In that case, yes; I agree with you.

[Glork]

Also, Gaspar can't edit anything. 99% sure that SL is harmless. Let's get back to playing the game now.

[elvis_knits]

I checked my alt and PP can't edit other people's posts in here.