Designer Mafia 2007 - Game Over, Final Scene Posted!

[TBuG]

Wow, I gots me some readin' to do.

[The Fonz]

Do you accept?

Rearrange the following to form a well known phrase or saying:

out, ass, it, Blow, your.

[Shanba]

Do you accept?

Rearrange the following to form a well known phrase or saying:

out, ass, it, Blow, your.

QFT

[armlx]

Do you accept?

Rearrange the following to form a well known phrase or saying:

out, ass, it, Blow, your.

QFT as well.

[the silent speaker]

Unvote, vote: The Fonz

Had you accepted, you would have put two free votes at the disposal of people you personally considered to be guaranteed town. (You will note that I made no provision that you would have to listen to

me

.) I can only attribute your refusal to a wish not to be a Judas.

[Thyroidectomy]

Let's look at Kison's in game accomplishments:

1. He switched from Oman to me to SirT in 4 posts.
2. Is now on ZONEACE, who I agree is the easy scum target (read Mafia 70).
3. Most of his posts either consist of confusion, votes, or weak/incoherent statements.
4. I know I have no right to say this, but general lurkiness also seems to plague Kison.

Is he eligible for a scummy yet?

Unvote
Vote Kison

[armlx]

Unvote, vote: The Fonz

Had you accepted, you would have put two free votes at the disposal of people you personally considered to be guaranteed town. (You will note that I made no provision that you would have to listen to

me

.) I can only attribute your refusal to a wish not to be a Judas.

Quite happy with my vote.

[Kison]

I find Zoneface to be blatantly scummy as that was my experience with him in Mafia 69. So no it's not picking an easy target.

[Kison]

(oh yeah, I lurked massively in 69. I was Town)

[the silent speaker]

I'm sure you are, armlx. I only wish I could be voting both of you.

[armlx]

I repeat again, answer the questions from last page and stop dodging the issues.

[SSF352]

Catching up, still a little more analysis to do. Big awesome thoughtful post coming.

[TBuG]

Notes:

DAY 1

Nocmen's off-on PR is weird.
Thyroid is giving off icky vibes, he claims good posts are bad and votes w/o reasoning. The tickets are weird too.

Hypothetical Vote Thyroid

Bamboomancer has a PR, I think.
I don't understand Nocmenwagon, I would probably be on Thyroidwagon.
mneme has faulty reasoning, but no, lack of explanation is not always scummy.
Thyroid is being unnecessarily hostile...?
stark 137 would be QFT if I were quoting.
WTF? Thyroid 140 is dumb.
Thyroid 142 is just wrong, aside from the fact that roles couldn't be designed specifically to balance others. However, the mod said he changed/added/combined things. Thus, balance.
Yes, Thyroid is being hostile, the heavy majority of his posts are insulting or just have an angry tone.
Twomz 152 - Shanba 155 is amusing.
Twomz 158 is kind of winlike.
mneme is confusing me.
Bamboo is also confusing me.
Looks like stark broke out the Manifesto to give Thyroid a whooping <3
Thyroid's semiclaim is intriguing.

Hypothetical Unvote Thyroid

If I were me I might be trying to lynch myself, but then again, BM is BM.
Tornado 192, down boy. True, but you can't expect someone to comment on every little detail in favour of the person he dislikes.
I tire of the Thyroid wagon. This new development reeks of scum distraction.
Flea 215, hypothetical QFT.
BM 216 - BM 220 is weird, and shows a grammatical ineptitude (or dislike of women).
Shanba 226 hypothetical QFT.
I like foolincwagon, but wouldn't join it.
As of foolinc 228, my mind is changed.

Hypothetical Vote foolinc

Okay, gotta go to sleep for now, I left off at page 10. 60 to go...

[armlx]

Just keep reading, it gets better.....

[Shanba]

I forget why we stopped wagoning foolinc again.

[The Fonz]

Unvote, vote: The Fonz

Had you accepted, you would have put two free votes at the disposal of people you personally considered to be guaranteed town. (You will note that I made no provision that you would have to listen to

me

.) I can only attribute your refusal to a wish not to be a Judas.

OK, let me explain what's wrong with this.

It meant getting me an extra two votes, but requiring me to use it on only those players

you

didn't consider obvtown. Since there's only six players not on that list, one is me, and the chances are we were going to lynch another today, then my vote is essentially beholden to you. So it's a case of me getting an extra vote, but only if YOU like it, which actually means that the pair of us have a collective vote which can be used if the two of us agree.

Plus, you haven't explained the rationale of your list despite repeated requests.

Basically, your offer was scummy as hell, and any town player in their right mind would have rejected it.

Oh, the joys of additional votes.

vote: The silent speaker, the silent speaker

[Sir Tornado]

OH, THE HORROR!

Players we shouls not under any circumstances be lynching any time soon:

Belgarion
CKD
Jediknight
mneme
Nocmen
Sir Tornado
the silent speaker
Twomz

Why are you on the list again TSS? Have you claimed any pro-town abilities yet?

[Sir Tornado]

OH, THE HORROR!

While you are at it, also tell me why The Fonz (multivoter) isn't on that list. Can you see scum getting multi-voting powers?

[Sir Tornado]

2. Is now on ZONEACE, who I agree is the easy scum target (read Mafia 70).

Interestingly enough, I was one of the people who had a correct "town" read on ZONEACE since mid-day 1 in that game, and I don't have the same confidence in him this game. He isn't ballistic enough here, which is one of the hallmarks of ZONEACE-town. I am not sure he is town at all in this game, so I have my eye on him.

[Sir Tornado]

EBWOP: OH, THE HORROR!

[Shanba]

Hm

I could see a tss wagon too.

[Twomz]

I would like for TSS to answer the questions posed to him last page and I am very suspicious of him trying to restrict our almost overpowered multivoter to a select group of people.

Also,

Do you accept?

Rearrange the following to form a well known phrase or saying:

out, ass, it, Blow, your.

QFT.

[mneme]

TSS's offer was kinda dumb.

OTOH, TSS's "don't lynch these" was a quite good summation of who's anti-linked to our scumgroup in one fashion or another, aside from his inclusion of himself onto it.

So no, not feeling the TSS BW -- not even a little bit.

Also, I'll be suspicious of the resurected until they stop growing and/or some of them start dropping dead of their own accord. But that's a later-day question.

For today, I'm happy to lynch ZONEACE. Or Kison.

[Kison]

Again, Thyroid's ability supposedly blocked all scum night actions from going through. Correct me if I'm wrong, but those resurrections occurred the same night his ability supposedly went off, correct? So if he's telling the truth about how his ability works, then that can't be scum related, as far as I can tell.

Obviously Zoneface and his confusion is a better option than Kison. Kison is Town. Yes, he is.

[Shanba]

OTOH, TSS's "don't lynch these" was a quite good summation of who's anti-linked to our scumgroup in one fashion or another, aside from his inclusion of himself onto it.

Yeah, but it's also somewhat common sense. Are you saying he's a bad lynch because of only one post?

Um, he is about fourth or fifth out of eighteen on my ranking, and first or second of the six not on The List of obvtown or obvscum. I repeat: I'm not that interested in going after him yet, because I have juicier targets in my sights, but I wouldn't say I find him uninteresting.

Why are they juicier? What have they done that's scummier than what stark has done?