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Post Post #1050 (ISO) » Mon May 12, 2008 3:59 pm

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I don't play enough games with funky roles hehe

I'd hate to lynch him if he's telling the truth tho.

Scenario: He's unrecruitable, he protects A. Cult recruits A. Cult gets jack.

Very powerful role. Assuming he's unrecruitable.

But it does make jailkeeper and plain roleblocker less likely. Especially the plain blocker.

But then again the blocking part of the body guard is kinda weird.

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Post Post #1051 (ISO) » Mon May 12, 2008 4:03 pm

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Vote Count

(6) Lowell: (Kison, Armlx, Korlash, Elvis Knits, Farside, Macavenger)
(5) Pooky: (Dead Rikimaru, Cavebear, Xtoxm, Lowell, Muerrto)
(1) Korlash: (Mneme)
(4) Not voting: (Erg0, Andycyca, Pooky, DGB)

16 players alive, means 9 votes to lynch
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Post Post #1052 (ISO) » Mon May 12, 2008 4:25 pm

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My role name is bodyguard.

As I said, my role description is a roleblocker. My target can't be recruited or killed, and can't do anything if s/he has powers.
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Post Post #1053 (ISO) » Mon May 12, 2008 4:27 pm

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Wait, scratch that, I just rechecked.

My role doesn't say anything explicitly about blocking OUTGOING actions, only that it prevents my target from being recruited or killed. Muerrto, however, seems to be implying that my power does both.
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Post Post #1054 (ISO) » Mon May 12, 2008 4:28 pm

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So... you're claiming jail keeper, with role name bodyguard. Hmm.
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Post Post #1055 (ISO) » Mon May 12, 2008 4:30 pm

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Presumably the other claimed roleblockers would tell us if they blocked Muerrto last night?
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Post Post #1056 (ISO) » Mon May 12, 2008 4:30 pm

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Sarnath'd, so you're not claiming jailkeeper, more like doc/alarmist combo. Or just all purpose doc, to make it sound simpler.

I can buy that claim. Role name of bodyguard fits with what limited flavor I have in my role PM, more or less.
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Post Post #1057 (ISO) » Mon May 12, 2008 4:32 pm

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elvis claimed Cavebear as a target, Erg0. I don't want to claim my target right now, but I will say it wasn't Muerrto.
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Post Post #1058 (ISO) » Mon May 12, 2008 4:49 pm

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Hmm, ok. If Lowell were a blocker then I'd expect his PM to tell him so. Guess it's down to whether Muerrto thinks he was blocked.
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Post Post #1059 (ISO) » Mon May 12, 2008 4:57 pm

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Umm, I don't really like this claim and how its wait no, wait no, wait no, wrong....
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Post Post #1060 (ISO) » Mon May 12, 2008 6:01 pm

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I agree wih Armlx here, Claiming Bodyguard is simple enough for any town. There was no point to go into as much as he did and get that confusing.
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Post Post #1061 (ISO) » Mon May 12, 2008 7:20 pm

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Sigh I could vote Lowell if ENOUGH people thought so because that'd mean I had the actual TOWN behind me. But no, I can't verify whether he did or did not target me last night.

Don't make me claim. It sounded as if people were starting to suspect me. Move elsewhere. Period.
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Post Post #1062 (ISO) » Mon May 12, 2008 7:26 pm

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Vote: Lowell


I don't see him target forgetting what his role does when he just put in a night choice a few days ago. I also can't see him targeting someone with a block because he thought they were pro-town. I don't think we can let him go through to tomorrow on the strength of this claim.
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Post Post #1063 (ISO) » Mon May 12, 2008 7:36 pm

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Vote Count

(6) Lowell: (Kison, Armlx, Korlash, Elvis Knits, Farside, Erg0)
(6) Pooky: (Dead Rikimaru, Cavebear, Xtoxm, Lowell, Muerrto, Macavenger)
(1) Korlash: (Mneme)
(3) Not voting: (Andycyca, Pooky, DGB)

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Post Post #1064 (ISO) » Tue May 13, 2008 12:24 am

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The "usual" Bodyguard is named that way because he risks his life to protect the target.
I don't really get why a strong role that protects from killing and from culting would be called that.
I could see Lowell really being a Bodyguard and hiding the bit where he dies or get culted instead of the person he was protecting.
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Post Post #1065 (ISO) » Tue May 13, 2008 12:49 am

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Dead Rikimaru wrote:I could see Lowell really being a Bodyguard and hiding the bit where he dies or get culted instead of the person he was protecting.
This is an interesting idea. If I weren't out to get recruiters first, I just might get on the Lowell wagon.
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Post Post #1066 (ISO) » Tue May 13, 2008 3:37 am

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Lowell, I could believe your role, maybe. I think the town should have lots of PRs, and I think of bodyguard more like a doc.

Something that concerns me though is that Lowell only gave one choice.
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Post Post #1067 (ISO) » Tue May 13, 2008 3:49 am

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Erg0 wrote:Xtoxm: Why did you choose to investigate me?
Because I found the way you delayed the bandwagon at the end of yesterday by posting without voting. And you weren't under much suspicion from anyone else.
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Post Post #1068 (ISO) » Tue May 13, 2008 5:08 am

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Sorry guys.

I tracked armlx. He didn't move last night.
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Post Post #1069 (ISO) » Tue May 13, 2008 5:26 am

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elvis_knits wrote:Lowell, I could believe your role, maybe. I think the town should have lots of PRs, and I think of bodyguard more like a doc.

Something that concerns me though is that Lowell only gave one choice.
Eh?? I only get one choice.
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Post Post #1070 (ISO) » Tue May 13, 2008 5:46 am

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I think she means you didn't claim a N0 protection choice.
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Post Post #1071 (ISO) » Tue May 13, 2008 5:48 am

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Why would a bodygaurd want to use his power N0? Or even a doc?
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Post Post #1072 (ISO) » Tue May 13, 2008 5:57 am

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Xtoxm: !? For bodyguard = doc with benefits, the anwer here is easy.

That's like asking why a RB would want to use his role on N0 -- only moreso.
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Post Post #1073 (ISO) » Tue May 13, 2008 6:23 am

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Andy is indeed telling the truth.

Bodyguard != doc with benefits, but obv use it N0. No reason not to.
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Post Post #1074 (ISO) » Tue May 13, 2008 7:32 am

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Armix, to clarify, Lowell did not claim the traditional "bodyguard" -- he claimed "doc + protect target from recruitment" with the role name of "bodyguard".

And actually, checking the wiki, bodyguard has rangedi n the past from "different name for a doc" to "super-doc who kills the attacker" to the martyr type that some people think of when they think "bodyguard".
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