Mini 594 - Satin Doll Showdown - {GAME OVER}

[Glork]

I thought he was trying to use things people were saying within thread to formulate his reads on people and not actually goad from the sidelines.

The thing is, that comment wasn't "goading from the sidelines" either. I was genuinely interested to see Has's response, because the inconsistency he displayed may belie malicious intent.

If I had said "Hmm, Incognito makes an interesting point. I'd like to hear what hasdgfas has to say about this alleged inconsistency" would I be "goading from the sidelines then? I think you're mistaking presentation for intent. I don't always speak my mind, but the gears are constantly cranking inside. Well, xcept in really, really, really, REALLY boring games. But this isn't one of them.


In other news:
Something about Patrick seems very slightly off, but I can't place my finger on what that is. Let it suffice to say the vote will stand, and I'll keep an eye on him. One reason might be the fact that he hasn't mentioned scot even once, and just asked for content from SSK and PokerFace.
Roland seems protown.
Ether is 99% protown.
Need user input from: scotmany12 (see above)
Erg0 seems closer to Final Stand than Methodical, which is a good sign.

[Patrick]

One reason might be the fact that he hasn't mentioned scot even once, and just asked for content from SSK and PokerFace.

Shrug, I just went with prodding the two people who's opinions I felt like I knew the least about. You're right that scot needs to do more as well.

The goading from the sidelines feeling came more from the post after hasdgfas's response than the one before, in my opinion.

[Glork]

You mean the "badgering into voting" post?

I was merely debunking his point there. Need I count the number of times I have told X to vote Y for no reason?

[Patrick]

You mean the "badgering into voting" post?

I was merely debunking his point there. Need I count the number of times I have told X to vote Y for no reason?

The reason I intepretted it that way was because your post seemed to encourage suspicion of him without taking a position yourself; I could have seen you going either way after saying that, which was why I asked for your opinion on what he'd written. I've since more or less lost interest in that, because I looked at open 54 again and saw you do something similar in addressing Andycyca (complete with rolleyes), and your play here in general seems similar to there.

[Incognito]

If I had said "Hmm, Incognito makes an interesting point. I'd like to hear what hasdgfas has to say about this alleged inconsistency" would I be "goading from the sidelines then? I think you're mistaking presentation for intent.

You're probably right about that. I think if you had layed it out as clearly as you did above or the way you did in your response to my question, your thoughts about the situation and your true intention behind the post would have been more clear to me. That makes more sense now.

[scotmany12]

I'd say I have a protown read from both glork and ether. I took ether's early attack on Glork as protown. It might just be mainly gut for Glork, but he hasn't done anything that has appeared scummy in my eye.

Quick update on my thoughts: After looking back over the few posts Ether has made so far, I get a pro-town read of her. She's acting (so far) like I would expect an Ethertown to act. Granted, we're only on page 4. But I don't think that her stretching on Glork makes her scummy, yet.

Much like patrick, those first two qualifiers don't bother me. The last one does. Ether might eventually do something else that makes her scummy, but still, I would think that the stretching on Glork would still not be considered a scum tell. The yet is unnecessary and worries me.

I guess right now I have the biggest problem with Tarhalinder. His attack on ergo just is wrong. He attacks ergo for summarizing and not making any opinions.

hasdgfas' FoS on Ether probably was too strong, but I don't really see it as scummy.

Yes, hascow, because nobody has ever badgered anybody else into voting somebody.

This could equally be applied to early FoSes on weak evidence - they're not exactly uncommon. I'm not particularly fond of the way that you're goading hasdgfas and Incog on from the sidelines.

I see opinions there. Also, I would like his opinion on Roland, who summarized in this post

Okay I'm here, I just reread the topic and I think I have an okay understanding of what's gone on so far... Theres the random or not random vote thing with Glork and Ether, and something about Hascow suspecting Ether and a page or so on that issue. Is there something I missed in between? AP Exams are done for this week so I'd figure that I do some catching up.

Is he also scummy? Also, I disagree with his FoS on ether. BTW, what does IIoA stand for tar?

Unvote, Vote: Tarhalindur

While this is not especially incriminating by itself, it is the best lead I have at the moment.

[PokerFace]

Unvote

Cool beans OGML

I don't see what Ether was getting at. O.o

Yay I was confused a bit too. I barely manage to see any validity in Ether's comments about Glork. ...

I said this earlier because I got a wierd vibe from the earlier exchange that Glork knew Ether's alignment, but now I think he was more so jesting around with the hot dancer statement.

In general alot of the votes made during this game's random vote stage weren't entirly random. And they weren't really made because the person getting voted was seriously scummy. But Ether's vote was more serious than the others so I understand why hascow considered them differently. Nothing really pinging my scumdar at the moment.


Something else I want to bring up, Glork recently said this

In other news:
Something about Patrick seems very slightly off, but I can't place my finger on what that is. Let it suffice to say the vote will stand, and I'll keep an eye on him. One reason might be the fact that he hasn't mentioned scot even once, and just asked for content from SSK and PokerFace.

either I am reading that wrong or something, because it seems to imply that his vote on Patrick will stand when Glork just recently...

Early Protown Indicators: Erg0, Ether, Glork, Mizzy

Unvote, Vote: PokerFace

randomly jumped onto me. I don't really see anything scummy from Patrick, myself atm.

[Glork]

Yeah, I forgot that I moved my vote.

Meh. Whatevs.

[Ether]

Patrick feels natural to me.

SSK feels sinister. Also, he needs a prod.

I said this earlier because I got a wierd vibe from the earlier exchange that Glork knew Ether's alignment,

Hold it. You didn't think

that

was worth mentioning earlier?

[OhGodMyLife]

MafiaSSK, hasdgfas and rolandgarros have been prodded

[hasdgfas]

Roland seems protown.

I'm not understanding how you can see this. I haven't seen roland really make any comments on anything this whole game.

[Incognito]

MafiaSSK, hasdgfas and rolandgarros have been prodded

SSK should probably just be replaced. The kid doesn't post unless he's prodded.

[Glork]

Roland seems protown.

I'm not understanding how you can see this. I haven't seen roland really make any comments on anything this whole game.

Quality over quantity, baby.


Also, he used the word "rudimentary."

[Mizzy]

Also, he used the word "rudimentary."

If I use the word "hebetudinous" to describe your brain when you made the correlation between big words and pro-town, does that make me pro-town, too?

That's hypothetical, by the way...I would never say such things!

[Glork]

If I use the word "hebetudinous" to describe your brain when you made the correlation between big words and pro-town, does that make me pro-town, too?

You're welcome to try.

Now, what do you think of some of the other players 'round here?

[Patrick]

Quality over quantity, baby.


Also, he used the word "rudimentary."

You claimed not to like Mizzy's qualifiers, but you've labelled roland protown after he made a post that he twice qualified with "this is only rudimentary". What's the difference? I think what little he's posted sounds kind of genuine, and it's like he feels a little overawed at what might be his first mini game, but that's hardly something that could only affect town.

Mod

: Did MafiaSSK pick up his second prod? I've definitely seen him online.

Incognito, what's your current vote based on?

[Glork]

It's actually the fact that even though he said nobody really stood out to him, he still weighed in on the most relevant three individuals at the time, asserting that they are all protown. Experience tells me that a scumbag would've latched onto one of these three, or they would've left it at "nobody really stands out to me."

[OhGodMyLife]

Apologies to hasdgfas, who clearly indicated in his sig that he was V/LA and should not have been prodded.

MafiaSSK has picked up his prod.

rolandgarros has requested replacement, due to his AP exams. farside22 believes she will have a mini game slot open by May 15th (three days from now), and as she was originally supposed to be pre-/in for this game I will wait for her rather than seek a more expedient replacement.

4th vote count

Erg0 - 2 (MafiaSSK, Tarhalindur)
PokerFace - 2 (hasdgfas, Glork)
Glork - 2 (Ether, Incognito)
MafiaSSK - 1 (Erg0)
Tarhalindur - 1 (scotmany12)

Not Voting - 4 (rolandgarros, Mizzy, Patrick, PokerFace)

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch

Current deadline: May 26th, 1:00 PM EST

[Patrick]

Glork's reasoning makes sense.

Mod, I unvoted Ether on the last page.

Fixed. -OGML

[Erg0]

Sorry for my absence, unexpected LA arose. Will catch up later today.

[Incognito]

Incognito, what's your current vote based on?

Honestly, not much. I thought Glork's response and explanation after my vote was reasonable. If I had a better place to put my vote right now, I'd place it there but since Glork isn't in any immediate danger, I'll leave it for the sake of having a vote.

[Ether]

unvote; vote: PokerFace

[PokerFace]

Patrick feels natural to me.

SSK feels sinister. Also, he needs a prod.

I said this earlier because I got a wierd vibe from the earlier exchange that Glork knew Ether's alignment,

Hold it. You didn't think

that

was worth mentioning earlier?

I didn't bring it up earlier because I have been rather busy and I wanted to take a second look at Glork's comments.

Cool beans OGML

I don't see what Ether was getting at. O.o

Yay I was confused a bit too. I barely manage to see any validity in Ether's comments about Glork.

I'll comment more on other peoples votes and stuff late wednesday or thursday if i am not too busy.

I admit that it would have been more significant to mention the vibe here, but I rather dislike trusting a vibe or a gut instinct. I prefer to vote and trust more solid cases. I believe I intially got the vibe from this statement:

My vote wasn't random.

Just saying.

Arbitrary, random... same thing.


You're just jealous of my incredible hotness.

Because he suggested that you could be jealous I got the impression he knew a reason why you would be jealous. Knowing a reason why you would be jealous would imply he knew something about you; like alignment for example. But in reading over it again I believe recieveing that vibe was something to this equivalent:

I do "what you were getting at," but I think you're confusing some harmless pre-game banter for fishing and subsequently making a DD out of an A.

I was looking to far into his joking around.

[Erg0]

Ok, caught up.

Tarhalindur: to what extent do you rely on the "Tarhalindur standard tells" that you link to in your sig? Others are welcome to comment on this from their own experience.

Glork: the difference between the two possible versions of your "Point: Incognito" post is tone. What you posted reads to me as being closer to "whatcha gonna say to that, hasdgfas" than "I would be interested to hear hasdgfas' response", hence my calling it goading.

Meh. I think I'm thinking too hard. This goes into the "for later reference" bin.

There are a bunch of people flying right under my radar right now. SSK can keep my vote for now as encouragement to post something useful, I think.

[scotmany12]

BTW, what does IIoA stand for tar?

Ok, I looked this up after ergo said your tells were linked in your sig. I still disagree with your vote on ergo though