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Post Post #775 (ISO) » Sat May 03, 2008 9:06 am

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Guardian, you arent making sense. Earlier you wanted as many people dead as possible as quickly as possible. Such a plan
requires me to be alive
. If you want to test for a DGB cult you need to do it with someone else because I'm necessary for extra kills.

You have absolutely no reason to believe I'm scum except for a hail mary play regarding one possible game mechanic out of an infinite variety of them. And you ignored everything else I said about Streetflo. You are suggesting me not wanting to get lynched is scummy. But you dont want to get lynched and Streetflo doesnt want to get lynched. I'm sorry but I self voted once in this game and got lynched. I dont want to get lynched because:

* I know I am town
* lynching me will therefore push town closer to a loss since not only will it be a mislynch but it is a mislynch of the most powerful townside power role left in the game.
* It is ignominous to get lynched twice in a game as town.
* I am actively working and have continually worked to scumhunt in this game.
* I havent done anything scummy.

So Guardian, get this through your thick head:

YOU

ARE

WRONG

ABOUT

ME.

and possibly are scum.

Now enough is enough. Stop it.
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Post Post #776 (ISO) » Sat May 03, 2008 9:08 am

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I'm not possibly scum.

I don't want to stop it.

Shaft.ed didn't do anything scummy and he was scum.

my gut tells me that this hail mary might work.


POSTING

IN

CAPS

DOES

NOTHING

Stop it. ;)
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Post Post #777 (ISO) » Sat May 03, 2008 9:19 am

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Your gut is wrong and you aren't answering any of my substantive points at all. Against your plan or in my points against Streetflo.

Shaft.ed didnt do anything overtly scummy. Occult did. That's why I got him. And it was streetflo who backed him up.
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Post Post #778 (ISO) » Sat May 03, 2008 12:45 pm

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I agree with cicero, and disapprove of lynching him.

I also want to hear Guardian's comments on what cicero has said.

I'm agreeing with Cicero's points though.

Vote: streetflo
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Post Post #779 (ISO) » Sat May 03, 2008 1:41 pm

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* I am at a complete loss as to what to do next *
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Post Post #780 (ISO) » Sat May 03, 2008 1:42 pm

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Why? Do you disagree with Streeflo or are you unsure about Guardian/Cicero?
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Post Post #781 (ISO) » Sat May 03, 2008 1:50 pm

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Hey guys: ciceros Anubis.

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Does'nt that guy look like he'd come back as evil if he were resurrected? Yeah, he does.
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Post Post #782 (ISO) » Sat May 03, 2008 1:56 pm

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Im still working out how the god of death can die in the first place...
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Post Post #783 (ISO) » Sat May 03, 2008 2:08 pm

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Asserting the same thing over and over again and ignoring my points is beneath you, Guardian.
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Post Post #784 (ISO) » Sat May 03, 2008 2:25 pm

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Id like to know if there is anything at all behind Guardians hunch or if its just out of the blue?
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Post Post #785 (ISO) » Sat May 03, 2008 5:19 pm

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ciceros tone & rolename & role quote.

its not 'out of the blue'

there are very few things that are beneath me cicero. sayin something is beneath me is kinda ad hom...
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Post Post #786 (ISO) » Sat May 03, 2008 5:23 pm

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cicero: 'My role PM' wrote: Role PM


Role: You are anubis.

Win Condition: You do win if I wake up before the morning of the Eight day.

Alignment: You not prevent me from waking.

Night move: Each night you may PM me the name of a target player. If that player is dead, you may be able to bring them back to life. If another player sees you it will probably look to them like you are trying to suck your target's soul out through their breath. If your target is actually alive you may actually accidentally suck their soul out, leaving them extinguished and dead. Other players will naturally fear and loath you -- they will not understand you --you are Anubis.

Once the Night 1 deadline has expired, or I have received night moves from all players who have one, I will post an opening scene and open the game thread.

MOD NOTE: If dies and is revived, keeps all abilities but becomes a Serial Killer
Does that Mod note not make sense with his role? It really does to me. There are no good leads at the moment. This seems like the best to me. Sure, we can lynch Streeflo first, but I'm thinking cicero might be an alignment flipper scum.

ALSO: note how he self hammered. Did he know he'd become an SK upon revival? Maybe he wanted to 'come back'?
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Post Post #787 (ISO) » Sat May 03, 2008 5:30 pm

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Ive rezzed two people since I came back. And you are just saying the same thing over again without responding to the points. Yet again. Honestly, you're just being weird.
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Post Post #788 (ISO) » Sat May 03, 2008 5:32 pm

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Actually

Unvote. Vote Guardian


There's nothing scummy about my tone. My rolename and role quote havent changed. And you are completely ignoring what I say. Something is up with you.
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Post Post #789 (ISO) » Sat May 03, 2008 5:59 pm

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"There's nothing scummy about my tone."
Forgive me for not thinking you're unbiased here.

"My rolename and role quote havent changed."
Forgive me for not thinking you're unbiased here.

"And you are completely ignoring what I say. Something is up with you."
That's untrue. LAL?

"Actually
Unvote. Vote Guardian"
This is little more than OMGUS. I find it interesting how hastily you abandon your case on Streeflo.

In your case against him you say "Sometimes you can just feel the scum."

But me saying I have a feeling you are scum is... oh, scummy. Because.. it is you, huh cicero?

You're OMGUSing, being hypocritical, and suspicious.
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Post Post #790 (ISO) » Sat May 03, 2008 6:50 pm

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cicero wrote:
cicero wrote:

Vote Streetflo for flavor reasons. Autocrat sounds like a natural godfather role.


His response:
Have it your way, I'm sure a mod like Adel is good enough to prevent obvious role guessing like this.
But that hasnt really been the case so much.
At least my role is very clearly tied to my powers.
Speaker for the Dead is pretty clear as well. Others are more opaque but largely because they cant be not opaque.
So I'm a corrupt politician and my power of corrupt votes doesn't tie well. I see your point.
cicero wrote:
We win on the 8th day, and there are already four dead. Stands to reason there must be a resurrecting role somewhere.
Seems like the scum have set up info. I also know I am town.
I don't get the first part, and the second part is great. I know I'm town too, let's all dance now.
cicero wrote:
I'm not sure who I'm leaning toward between Occult and cicero. Probably more toward cicero than Occult right now, though only by a little.
Distancing without damage.
Which explains why I thought shaft.ed was town. Oh wait, it doesn't.


cicero wrote:
Please stop voting for shaft.ed... = =
Defends shaft.ed repeatedly. Quantumfruit is scummy to him though.
You admitted yourself shaft.ed did nothing "overtly scummy", that it was Occult that made you suspicious.

Plus, everyone thought Quantumfruit was scummy.
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Post Post #791 (ISO) » Sun May 04, 2008 9:59 am

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vote: cicero


Last week of final exams; I'm not allowing myself to check the site from now until I am done with this semester's work. 1 week. I shouldn't be missed...
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Post Post #792 (ISO) » Mon May 05, 2008 1:42 am

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Looks like we've all all the scum... and one survivor... I'm at a complete loss. I admit intellectual defeat.
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Post Post #793 (ISO) » Mon May 05, 2008 1:49 am

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I think I want to cry
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Post Post #794 (ISO) » Mon May 05, 2008 4:54 am

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I still have to respond to Guardian but my response is on my other computer where I've been trying to do a list of who died when and was rezzed by whom when so I have it all straight. In the meantime:

Mod: Plainly put - are there still scum of any variety alive in this game? Will you wake up if we kill all the players who "prevent you from waking" or is there some other odd mechanism we are supposed to puzzle out


@Sparky - Can you try some language to lead Adel into waking up? There seems to be something special about you for this game.

Possible Theories to explore:

1) Cicero as Anubis the serial killer - This one makes no sense. I've rezzed two people since coming back and only killed who I was directed to kill. In any event it is a huge mistake to lynch me today because it would result in town only being able to kill one player instead of two. I can effectively become a second lynch for town. If I absolutely must be lynched it should be a last ditch effort on the last day.

2) Anubis rezzed players as a cult - This seems very challenging balance wise but shouldnt be ruled out. Particularly since Guardian is intent on killing me today. That cult though would then be Porochaz, Dripping Goofball and Guardian, would it not? Why do I keep forgetting what Porochaz's power is. Porochaz what's your power again?

3) Dripping Goofball Cult - I would be in such a cult and I am not.

4) Dripping Goofball as scum resurrector - It is definitely weird to have two townside resurrectors. I'm assuming a third rezzer is dead but we cant exclude this possibility.

5) Bloated Autocrat as a scum godfather - This makes good sense. I wish I had been the one to resurrect Streetflo because then we could test two theories at once. But if you want to test the godfather theory and the DGB cult theory you can take out streetflo. Then I could vig Guardian. Vice versa works as well. Streetflo you know that if you use your last corrupt vote Guardian gets lynched, right? Actually with that in mind, for the moment,
unvote
until we can talk about it more.

Anything else? It isnt like Porochaz and DGB to just admit defeat.

Comments are welcome as are other scenarios.

Streetflo, I don't think you answered my question on what you were saving your corrupt votes for did you?
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Post Post #795 (ISO) » Mon May 05, 2008 4:57 am

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Porochaz wrote:I think I want to cry
Let's drink ourselves to oblivion. With lemonade.
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Post Post #796 (ISO) » Mon May 05, 2008 5:01 am

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cicero wrote:Anything else? It isnt like Porochaz and DGB to just admit defeat.
We killed 3 scum and a survivor. There doesn't seem to be a serial killer. I suck at puzzles so bad, it must be painful to watch. I don't buy the cult thing. I no longer believe that alignments change.

Guardian is devious. But haven't we killed him already?
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Post Post #797 (ISO) » Mon May 05, 2008 5:23 am

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We did kill him once. The only reason to kill him is to test culting which you wouldnt be in favor of because you'd be in the same cult with him.

The way I figure it if there are scum left alive though there is at least a possibility of death millers and their opposite (is there a name for that?) coming in to play. This game seemed so easy at the front with two scum down right away. But we really dont know if we can trust that all the scum are really dead. I mean it seems quite the opposite. At the same time, we are still in a no nightkills situation which means if scum are still alive they don't need to kill and are just running out the clock, which is the odd element of this game.

So either we have a cult, or someone who popped up as "not preventing Adel from waking" actually is preventing Adel from waking and is a death anti-miller.
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Post Post #798 (ISO) » Mon May 05, 2008 5:56 am

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I don't think we can vote dead guys...

Who has never been killed?
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Post Post #799 (ISO) » Mon May 05, 2008 6:17 am

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Everybody alive has been dead once, I believe.

Oh and Porochaz is a tracker. I forgot. Can you post your PM Porochaz?

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