Mini 567 - iPick - Game Over: The Stunning Conclusion

[Lawrencelot]

It pains me to see you do that Lawrence. If you lynch me today can you see town winning (assuming that I am town)?

Also where did your post restriction come from. The only person who targeted you apparently was Xtoxm. So is Xtoxm giving restrictions now too?

Or you.

Kison

says you were my aim, which is true, so I was your aim?

[Guardian]

Vote Count 31

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Rogueben[2] (Lawrencelot)

3 to lynch

[Lawrencelot]

Unvote

[Guardian]

Last week of final exams; I'm not allowing myself to check the site from now until I am done with this semester's work. 1 week. I shouldn't be missed...

I *MAY* check the site exactly once to do a VC for this game. Otherwise have fun.

[Rogueben]

Or you. Kison says you were my aim, which is true, so I was your aim?

I can categorically deny that I targeted you. My target for last night was definitely Kison, this is why I am confused as Kison came out with his results prior to you announcing that you targeted me.

The only solution I can think of is that Kison targeted you and Xtoxm protected you. This prevented you from dying and also provided Kison with the result that you targeted me. Then to set me up today for a misslynch Kison claimed that I targeted you last night. However this is all speculation and still does not account for my ability not taking effect. I don't think I am going to understand exactly what is going on in this game until it is over.

For the moment I would like to request that unless you have decided between all three of you that you want to lynch me that you do not vote for me (as it seems if one townie votes for me scum will be able to quicklynch).

Thus if you really want to lynch me I would like you to put this in your post.

I believe that Rogueben is the last scum and would like to lynch him.

If all three of you do this then I feel there is not much else I will be able to do.

[Lawrencelot]

I can not post that with my

restriction

, but I will quote that when I think you should be lynched.

Kison

would have had a lot of luck if he chose me and you while he was scum. How would he know you were my aim if I was the aim of

Xtoxm

and

Kison

?

[Rogueben]

I think I understand what you are saying here. That is that if Kison targeted you he wouldn't have known which of the targets was your target. However if he had targeted you I believe he would have received the following:

Lawrencelot <--> Xtoxm
Lawrencelot <--> Rogueben

I believe this is pretty easy to work out who targeted who. The logical choice for Xtoxm last night was to target Lawrencelot. That leaves Lawrencelot targeting me. From there all he has to claim is that I targeted Lawrencelot and that implies that I am scum.

All this assumes that Kison is scum now, but I am more sure of that than I have been of pegging scum in any game I've played before.

[Lawrencelot]

So you think

Kison

is scum, but speaks the truth of his

ability

?

[Rogueben]

I think Kison is scum with an ability, yes. The other scum so far have both had abilities so I think it is likely that Kison has an ability too. I also find it likely that as a member of the triforce he has a mystery role like the others did. In general, I think the claim of his role and its function is genuine but I think his alignment is existentialist.

[Lawrencelot]

Rogueben

you need to

answer

this: do you know of way to win just like

Kison

?

Kison

knows how scum can win.

[Rogueben]

I know of no other way to win besides for the regular way town wins.

[Lawrencelot]

I know of no other way to win besides for the regular way town wins.

And what is this way? How does town win in this game? How do you win?

Kison

is the

special

scum win still a threat? If not, could you tell me of it?

[Rogueben]

Paraphrasing to avoid direct quotation:

I win if all opposing forces are gone or if another town member wins.

That is as good as I can get it without quoting direct passages from my role PM.

This is also the only way I know of for the town to win.

[Lawrencelot]

Kison

would your

answer

be the same as

Rogueben's

if I ask you the same as him?

[Xtoxm]

RB - Have you fully claimed.

And Kison RB - You have directly countered each other, so you know that the other is scum.

Why are you not voting each other?

[Lawrencelot]

Xtoxm

what do you think of the names of roles that are

historically

"wrong", like

NabakovNabakov

and

vollkan

?

[Xtoxm]

You mean historical disfigurements? Only thing I seem to see in common with them is both related to PR's.

Oh btw Law - You don't happen to think, or otherwise know by any means, that RB is something to do with being a historical disg?

Or no?

Here's and idea...You were given a PR, yeh? This means either:

- Scum gave you PR intentially and tried to kill me.
- Scum gave you PR unintentionally, and tried to kill you.
- Townie gave you PR unintentially, and scum tried to kill you.

Napoleon's dynamite sounds awfully similar...It's historical, for one. And Napoleon, I hear, had a/some "disgfurements".

I killed the first night, so wouldn't have done anything...Perhaps it's possible I have something to do with this PR's?

[Rogueben]

Napoleon dynamite is a movie Xtoxm, I think that is much more likely to be the source then a possible disfigurement Napoleon may have had.

I can't see anything that relates me to historical disfigurements.

Over the course of this game I have revealed to you everything that is in my role pm without actually quoting it. For your ease I will redo it now.



My role name is Link. I am the Saviour of Hyrule.

I kill people with sword or bow and arrow. I am a bit evil though so I must kill every night.

I win when there are no more obstacles to the town or when any other town member wins.



This is an absolute clam, paraphrasing as much as I can from my role without directly quoting.

I suppose there is no reason not to vote Kison at this point, at the start of the day I was concerned there may be a mechanic like yesterdays mechanic on Adel and I didn't think that I could afford a proxied vote on myself all day.

Vote: Kison

[Kison]

I see the new posts and read a couple while I was away, on an undersized laptop. However, I'm too tired even to find the strength to be make smartass remarks . Nothing I've glanced over has really convinced me of anything, but, Rogueben, you did say something about checking with Guardian about something. What'd that yield?

I will have a response tomorrow. This is a quickie. I'm tired. Someone shoot me with some sleeping drugs. Thanks.

[Xtoxm]

Napoleon dynamite is a movie

I'm aware that there's a such move.

My role name has

NOTHING

to do with it

I can't see anything that relates me to historical disfigurements.

I can see something that links you to existentialism though.

Kison - Why are you not voting for RB? Seriously...You

know

he's scum...

[Rogueben]

Kison - Why are you not voting for RB? Seriously...You know he's scum...

Ah but you see he doesn't. He knows I'm town.

Rogueben, you did say something about checking with Guardian about something. What'd that yield?

I asked him whether he got my kill directed to you. He confirmed that he got my PM and that my target last night was you.

[Lawrencelot]

You mean historical disfigurements? Only thing I seem to see in common with them is both related to PR's.

Oh btw Law - You don't happen to think, or otherwise know by any means, that RB is something to do with being a historical disg?

Or no?

Yes that is what I mean.

Rogueben

was my aim last night, and I found out he is not in that group. So I think

Rogueben

did not give me the fun posts.

Kison

or you did, or the mod. That does not mean

Rogueben

is town though.

Here's and idea...You were given a PR, yeh? This means either:

- Scum gave you PR intentially and tried to kill me.
- Scum gave you PR unintentionally, and tried to kill you.
- Townie gave you PR unintentially, and scum tried to kill you.

Napoleon's dynamite sounds awfully similar...It's historical, for one. And Napoleon, I hear, had a/some "disgfurements".

I killed the first night, so wouldn't have done anything...Perhaps it's possible I have something to do with this PR's?

First one does not sound good: why would you not be dead? Can you find out if you could have gave me the fun posts? I

forgot

this: was someone your aim and also scum's aim before? Like last night I was your aim and also scum's aim?

[Xtoxm]

Xtomx WILL BE PROTECTED TONIGHT. By angels. He cannot die tonight.

Can you find out if you could have gave me the fun posts?

Nothing in my PM suggests it. If I do I can't know about it.

I forgot this: was someone your aim and also scum's aim before? Like last night I was your aim and also scum's aim?

Adel said she targetted shaft, but might have been lying.

[Xtoxm]

I forgot this: was someone your aim and also scum's aim before? Like last night I was your aim and also scum's aim?

Why?

[Kison]

Kison - Why are you not voting for RB? Seriously...You know he's scum...

Because, Xtoxm, this game

doesn't make sense

. I left a .1% window that he is not scum, and I'm a very cautious type of guy. Discussion does not hurt. His insistence that he targeted me only makes me more certain, however. For one, I am alive yet I have no self protecting ability that I am aware of and you have not stated that you protected me. Secondly, I see two arrows linking him to a player he claims not to have targeted. And judging by Lawrencelot's reaction, my results contradict what Rogueben is claiming. Convenient for a guy who has failed to provide us a unique dead body 3 days in a row when he is supposedly

forced

to kill.

The only solution I can think of is that Kison targeted you and Xtoxm protected you. This prevented you from dying and also provided Kison with the result that you targeted me.

Are you implying that my ability is triggered on the same person I "kill"? Because if that's the case then how would I have gotten my previous two results without my target dying? I don't get it.

I think Kison is scum with an ability, yes. The other scum so far have both had abilities so I think it is likely that Kison has an ability too.

We know Vollkan had a Post Restricting ability, as his name was "PR Giver". My results indicate that Rogueben targeted Lawrencelot last night. I suppose it's possible from the perspective of of the others that I could have figured the results out even had I targeted Lawrencelot. However, that is not what happened nor do I see the point. Again, I targeted Lawrencelot on the same night I replaced in and he neither died nor received a PR, so I'm not sure how they could have come from me even if I HAD targeted him.

Kison

is the

special

scum win still a threat? If not, could you tell me of it?

Yes, it's still possible to pull off.

Kison

would your

answer

be the same as

Rogueben's

if I ask you the same as him?

Win condition, in my own words : I win with the Town. The Town is also known as Things That Don't Make Sense Town. We win if one of two things happens : all scum of any sort are eliminated, or if some other condition causes Town to win.

My role PM does not go into any alternate Town win condition, but that does allude to the possibility of one existing.

Vote : Rogueben

If Xtoxm or Lawrence is scum, then I'm suing.