VOTE: JS
Why?
Because
*He has spent the majority of the game agreeing with people.
*He has tried to stay out of the spotlight
*He also has not scum-hunted that much.
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So here is some evidence for all three of those, especially the last two:
Again, I’m going to ask for you to use tabbed browsing. Open this post in one tab, and in the other, view all of the posts by JS and JS only in this thread. Ok, so JS has 52 posts total, and all of them fit into these categories*:
A) Non-scum-hunting stuff such as theory, quick clarifying posts, and just agreeing with others (not providing original info): His posts 2 4(staying on everyone’s good side) 7 10 23 25 27 30 32 35 36 37 39 41 44 fit into this.
B) Responses to what other people said/defending himself, and other prompted things. Most of his game has been this: posts 5 6 8 9 11 14 1516 17 19 20 22 24 26 28 29 31 34 38 43 45 47 49 50
C) Semi scum-hunting type stuff. (most of it isn’t scum-hunting, but I put all the pro-townish stuff he’s said here). : 0, 1 18 21 33 42 46 48.
D) Other 3, 12, 13, 51 (post 3 was an FOS for a lurker, not really pro or anti-town move.)
(12 and 13 were him posting in the wrong game) (51 was him saying he would be gone until this upcoming Friday).
*As you read, you may find many of the things that I didn’t put in category C were semi-helpful. For instance,
Notes, most of the posts fit into categories B and C. If I response post had some scum-hunting in it, I put it in category C.
If I did my math write, that means that over 3/4 of his game were non-scum-hunting stuff or responses that didn’t scum hunt. Only 8 of his posts were actually even
close
to scum-hunting.
As for those 8,
---0 and 1 are just discussing how Occult approved an early deadline. It’s really not much of scum-hunting really.
---18 can kind of be considered scum-hunting, however he simply restates arguments before (quote himself here) and he attacks who the town thinks is scummiest. Not really scum-hunting here, either, more like agreeing with town.
---21 Ok so this isn’t actually hunting for scum either, but he does ask some pro-town questions.
---33 are just his thoughts on the Muerrto and Cerb situation, It’s not really scum-hunting but I put it here because it wasn’t a direct response to something about him, and his discussion is good for the town. For those who are curious, (maybe karamdog is? Get it!) Js thought that Muerrto’s arguments were bad and sided with Cerb,
---42 This also isn’t scum-hunting, It’s a sudden vote with barely any evidence. Personally, I see it as distancing. Of course he just unvotes on 46 (again, 46 isn’t actually scum hunting, but I put it here since it didn’t fit in the other two categories)
---48, wow this is true scum-hunting. This is the only good, original case JS has made the entire game!
I could literally quote all the times JS has done something that isn’t scum-hunting, but 51 posts is too much too quote. Now agreeing is necessary a bad thing on it’s own. But combined with him not ever providing any original scum-hunting, he is not helping the town.
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How many times has JS “agreed?”
8 10 (CKD) 10 (CKD again) 10 (CKD!) 16 (even agreeing about theory. Not really necessary to mention) 21 (amor, but not related to game) 23 (bab) 28 (bab) 29 (bab) 33 (Muerrto) 33 (Cerb) 33 (Cerb) 38 (CKD) 38 (CKD).
12 separate times. Agreeing occasionally is good, but when he doesn’t scum-hunt on his own (see above) and simply agrees with people, it’s scummy. Also, he agrees with people about game theory and stuff, which seems to me that he really just want to get on people’s good sides.
The other side of the argument:
he disagrees 7 times. He uses the word “disagree” a bunch of times, but most of the time he is talking about disagreeing or how he disagreed a lot, which he didn’t. There’s only 7 things he disagrees with. That’s only half of the time he agrees.
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334,
JS wrote: Not much to say.
. As always.
Post 403,
JS wrote: The whole case is not enough for a vote from me. You come up with good evidence, but unfortunately most of it has been mentioned before, though not explained away.
. (this is JS post 38 and game post 403) Ok, well, JS, how come on post 410 you quickly vote for Muerrto with barely any evidence? Keep in mind this is less than 6 hours after post 403.
Oh wait, and after “throwing caution to the winds,” (410) JS unvotes on post 448 claiming
Unvote. Muerrto, I think you explained your vote well enough in #418, though I'm maintaining some suspicion because of the illogical argument you pushed on Bridges earlier. I noted that you felt your claim was sound after others argued against it, but you never explained why. If I ever bring up a case against you (and Bridges is confirmed town at the time) this accusation will probably play a substantial part in it.9
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Why did it take so long for that post to convince you! You posted 2 separate times and four days later it finally convinced you? This is just wrong. I don’t like this at all. The post doesn’t even explain the vote very well.
He unvotes on post 418, is this enough to persuade you?\
Something else he did: he sided against both CKD and myself during the argument between us (208). It doesn’t make sense considering I (in hindsight) didn’t provide any good evidence against him. It just seems like he is trying to cast the guilt on us two. Of course I’ve done my share of scummy things, but really, I don’t see CKD being scum at all right now.
JS, how is “obnoxiousness” scummy? And how is “speaking for the town” scummy? Of course, both of these seem like playing mafia badly, it’s not necessary scummy!
Ok I’m rushing this so I can post this now.
I don’t like how he hasn’t scum-hunted, I don’t like his weird vote and unvote on Muerrto (and the contradiction), and I don’t like how he considered both CKD and I scummy during our argument.
You can see all the times he hasn't scum-hunted. That's enough evidence for me.
Posting time.
