Elemental Mafia- Game Over!

[Battle Mage]

Vote Count

(5) Armlx: (DGB, Korlash, Pooky, Cavebear, Mneme)
(3) Lowell: (Andycyca, Farside, Kabenon)
(2) Andycyca: (Xtoxm, Erg0)
(2) Farside: (Armlx, Lowell)
(1) Macavenger: (Ooba)
(1) Ooba: (Macavenger)
(1) Kabenon: (Muerrto)
(3) Not voting: (Roland, Kison, Elvis Knits)

18 players alive, means 10 votes to lynch.

BM

[elvis_knits]

unvote
vote: armlx

Ok, DGB. Let's see what you got.

She can't have anything. She was supposedly jailed last night.

vote mneme

[kabenon007]

Appeal to emotion much? Trying to find things to attack people? Um..I've been the one trying to slow the lynches and get people to discuss things. With this last post I definitely feel confident

Unvote, Vote: Kabenon

Lulz

[armlx]

Agree with the lulz.

[Muerrto]

Shrug I give up. I thought playing with experienced players instead of as an IC in a newbie game would be enlightening. You guys are completely random and so far completely wrong. What's worse is you have this air of superiority that makes you feel like you don't have to explain your actions. It's horrible.

I definitely wash my hands of this day and this mob mentality. I repeat my statement earlier that if the town wins this it'll be a miracle.

Unvote

Oh, and if Kaenon's a recruiter/recruit I say HA! in your general direction.(same for Xtomx)

[armlx]

Muerrto: Playing an multiple lynches a day cult game is probably an inaccurate example of newbies vs experienced players.

[Cavebear with a toothache]

Muerrto: I've already learned from this game, and I suspect that, when the game is over and I know who the recruiters (and others) were, I'll be able to go back and learn even more. It should prove quite enlightening.

This game is far from over, and if you throw in the towel now, you're nothing but a quitter. This game might not be what you were hoping for. So? Quit whining and make the best of it. >_>

I'm sorry i haven't posted at all after the first few days of the game - I've had problems with my keyboard and couldn't type much with an Onscreen one - re-reading the game right now - expect a substantial post in 45 min ..

Still waiting for that substantial post. Don't make promises you can't keep.

Also still waiting for people to respond to my previous post. Are people worried that they won't have time for their wagons to get restarted, or what? The sooner we get going the more information we get.

[armlx]

As for your last post, I think the deal is people are probably willing to vote for multiple people at this point and are chilling on the one they find most scummy. Doesn't mean they won't switch once a specific wagon hits critical mass. Your proposistion just seems like an awkward way of stating what we already assume will occur.

[Cavebear with a toothache]

As for your last post, I think the deal is people are probably willing to vote for multiple people at this point and are chilling on the one they find most scummy. Doesn't mean they won't switch once a specific wagon hits critical mass. Your proposistion just seems like an awkward way of stating what we already assume will occur.

My point is that if something like that is supposed to happen, it better be happening faster than it is right now. I don't see any wagon reaching critical mass anytime soon at this pace. (Everyone: feel free to prove me wrong. )

[armlx]

The issue is you begin to lock people into decisions they don't really want to make.

[Muerrto]

I'm not whining, I'm sick of asking questions that never get answered and getting 1 word or 1 line responses to things. There's no discussion or logic occuring and we've killed 4 town today, 1 SK, 1 survivor, and no cult. Yet people are STILL just jumping wagons instead of paying attention and reasoning who to vote for. Then when someone DOES post reasons, like your Ooba thing which is valid or my case on Xtomx which people have said is also valid yet DON'T pressure him or vote him then another wagon builds, another townie's lynched and we'll go to night with all the cult alive. Watch and see if we don't.

What I want to know is, where is your reasoning for the current wagon you're on, all those voting someone, and what is your reasoning for NOT being on a different wagon?

[mneme]

Ok, DGB. Let's see what you got.

She can't have anything. She was supposedly jailed last night.

vote mneme

True. I'd forgotten that.

OTOH, what she has in plain sight -- she has evidence of a working jailkeeper role, which puts doubt on the supposed RB role. What kind of mod would put an RB and a jailkeeper in the same game.

For our last lynch of the day, taking good odds of lynching a counterclaimed recruiter against the unlikely chance that he's actually a dupe-role roleblocker instead is an excellent plan -- the odds of a roleblocker blocking a scum at this point isn't that high, the use of a roleblocker to -find- scum is nil (since all living known scum don't have to kill, we cannot guess someone is scum just because they were blocked and we got fewer kills than we expected), and frankly, the odds of him actually being a RB isn't that high either.

[Muerrto]

But Armlx didn't claim RB'er, did he? Don't you mean Elvis?

[elvis_knits]

What kind of mod would put an RB and a jailkeeper in the same game.

BM

[Lowell]

As for your last post, I think the deal is people are probably willing to vote for multiple people at this point and are chilling on the one they find most scummy. Doesn't mean they won't switch once a specific wagon hits critical mass. Your proposistion just seems like an awkward way of stating what we already assume will occur.

This is absolutely what I'm doing. There are very few people I won't vote for.

One of them is Muerrto. Just FTR. I like people who drive D1 discussions.

[farside22]

Farside's voting history has been pretty unstellar so far as well, mainly how fast it jumps. Its pretty insane even for this game.

pot this is kettle how are you doing?

My Votes: TSN, DoS, Jedi, You.

1 townie who was acting fairly scummy, 1 person who claimed survivorunder pressure, 1 claimed SK who has no reason to kill cult leaders which is the only thing he is useful for.

You: TSN, Jedi, Wayne, Mizzy, etc....

Your vote changes between lynches with each change of popular opinion.

This game is a bit different and some votes were for discussion. Mizzy, Jedi and now Lowell. It was quick vote for him to change from Andy to me without saying anything at all and you call me out? I just wonder how you can ignore his comment when he voted so quickly when I asked him to explain his vote better. He didn't, hasn't and apparently doesn't feel he needs to.

[armlx]

Meh, I noticed it, feel its kinda stray, but I'm waiting to see what happens before deciding on it. You however I am pretty solid on voting.

[Andycyca]

I agree with Cavebear's plan on getting people to claim through wagons.

[Erg0]

I support the approach in general, but I'm not going to vote for someone that I don't think is scum (namely armlx or Lowell) just because they have a bunch of votes on them.

[Muerrto]

Shrug I'd vote for Andy, Xtomx, or Kabenon for afore mentioned reasons. But not Lowell(someone preaching my townness that much may be buddying up to me but I don't see that) or Armlx(I don't like the pressure he's been getting all game from all sides, it doesn't seem deserved).

We DO need to speed the decisions a little though and stop going off on tangents since we DO have a deadline.

[Erg0]

Ok, let's go with this, then.

Unvote, Vote: kabenon007

[Muerrto]

Muerrto: Playing an multiple lynches a day cult game is probably an inaccurate example of newbies vs experienced players.

Btw, sorry missed this. I understand and I also understand this game is pretty chaotic just from the sign up sheet and people shouting about 4 cults. I just think we could be in a better position now had we not gone crazy lynching all over without thought or discussion and if we continue down the same path there's no doubt in my mind we'll lose.

Not trying to call anyone out for anything since almost everyone has been doing it but it needs to end or we'll never make it to day 3.

[Andycyca]

Why not try armlx first for a claim? More claims = Moar info IMHO

[Macavenger]

Why is armlx scummy? I've honestly yet to see a good case for that from any of the people voting him or advocating pushing him.

Andy is the main person I'd vote aside from ooba right now. If someone could lay out a case on kabenon I might be willing to go for that also; I don't see him as especially scummy at the moment but I don't appreciate everything he's done, either. I'll try to get a reread in tomorrow and see if I turn up anyone else that looks like a good suspect.

[Kison]

Vote : Muerrto

You guys are completely random and so far completely wrong.

I just read your posts in isolation and it looks like there was a little bit of Muerrto mixed in with the "you guys." Not to mention, after many folks were lynched you'd be one of the first to shout, "Next??" So why are you trying to shift the blame off of yourself?