Elemental Mafia- Game Over!

[Muerrto]

Multiple Lynches sure - but we could have lynched him at end of day near deadline..

If we didn't hit Cult Leaders by then, we should have let him live ..

QFT

But shrug Ergo had a good point too about time constraints. I didn't see anyone saying 'let him live forever' so saying someone was defending scum is a stretch and scapegoating.

[DrippingGoofball]

I believe, an alt of DGB.

I approve of this message.

[elvis_knits]

Frankly at this point I'd rather kill elvis than armlx. Defending a SK is too weird for words, I can't wrap my head around it. The jailkeeper AND roleblocker really are a bee in my bonnet. And since I know the jailkeeper to be true, I now want that claimed roleblocker dead, I no longer believe the claim especially from a player that roots for the scum, gah!

Look, I would rather have an SK killing cult leaders and cult recruits, than have the SK be dead. I'm not rooting for scum. I'm rooting for the SK to help us, and we can kill him at our leisure.

Besides, guy had been hammered, so it's not like I was capable of saving him. Why do you think it's scummy?

As for RB and jailkeeper in the game... why is this impossible?

[DrippingGoofball]

As for RB and jailkeeper in the game... why is this impossible?

Overkill in the RB department, maybe?

[Macavenger]

As for RB and jailkeeper in the game... why is this impossible?

Overkill in the RB department, maybe?

I thought this when she first claimed too, but the reveal of the inventor and dayvig and such has modified my opinion somewhat. We have a fairly stacked town - with 4 cults, we have to - and since my role as jailkeeper is theoretically primarily defensive, I can see having a plain RB too.

[elvis_knits]

Well, RB and jailkeeper, though similar have different applications in this game. I can only block cult recruiters from recruiting. (I can also block town power roles if I choose incorrectly, or could have blocked wayne were he still alive). But the only really good thing I can do for the town is block a cult recruiter. There's only four of them in the entire game.

Jailkeeper role is different and actually more powerful because it can block a recruiter, or a recruit. So this role can work on many more people and help town more.

Anyway, please realize the town has to have many powerroles in order to be able to fight against 4 cults.

[kabenon007]

Why can't you block a recruit?

[Battle Mage]

Vote Count (at time of lynch)

(10) Jediknight: (Elvis Knits, Erg0, Armlx, Kabenon, Macavenger, Muerrto, Lowell, Farside, Xtoxm, Andycyca)
(5) Armlx: (DGB, Korlash, Jediknight, Pooky, Cavebear)
(1) Elvis Knits: (Mneme)
(1) Macavenger: (Ooba)
(2) Not voting: (Roland, Kison)

19 players alive, means 10 votes to lynch.

And despite his sudden bout of repentance, and subsequent confession, his honesty was not enough to satiate the bloodthirsty town.

Jediknight - Wayne, Serial Killer, given the electric chair treatment, Day 1

18 players remained, and with only 2 potential deaths permitted before deadline, they knew they had their work cut out if they wanted to make any sort of dent in the cults before nightfall!

BM

[Battle Mage]

Current Vote Count

(4) Armlx: (DGB, Korlash, Pooky, Cavebear)
(1) Macavenger: (Ooba)
(13) Not voting: (Roland, Kison, Elvis Knits, Erg0, Armlx, Kabenon, Macavenger, Muerrto, Lowell, Farside, Xtoxm, Andycyca, Mneme)

18 players alive, means 10 votes to lynch.

BM

[Muerrto]

Next? This is looking god awful for the town...

I wouldn't mind maybe lynching one of the more vocal people yelling to kill Jedi after his claim since the cult would definitely want the SK dead, it's the only way they can be NK'ed.

[Xtoxm]

I don't believe there is advantage to keeping a claimed SK around, he does not have the town's interests at heart.

CL's also can kill, if you check the PM's.

I'd rather look to someone who's be trying to keep quiet...Andy, he says he's struggling to keep up, but that doesn't change that he's done little...

vote Andy

.

I also think Jedi was telling the truth about his frameblock on Roland.

[Erg0]

Given that two people have claimed blocks on Roland, there's a very good chance that he actually was blocked. I'm thinking he might be worth looking at since he would have no recruits if he's a cult leader.

[Muerrto]

But the blockers had no information they just blocked him so that doesn't make him more or less likely to be a CL. Now the fact that he's lurking massively bothers me but he's been prodded I guess we wait and see.

[Macavenger]

I agree with xtoxm that Andy has been awfully quiet. We've got 8 or 9 days to do 2 lynches though, so I'm probably going to try to take a detailed reread here before voting anyone again.

[elvis_knits]

Why can't you block a recruit?

In my other cult game, leaders send their choice at night, so my block would work on them. But cults recruits join at beginning of the next day, so I don't think it would affect them.

Is this wrong?

[Erg0]

But the blockers had no information they just blocked him so that doesn't make him more or less likely to be a CL. Now the fact that he's lurking massively bothers me but he's been prodded I guess we wait and see.

Yah, for sure - I'm not advocating a vote based purely on the block(s). They do weigh on the cost/benefit of lynching him if we

do

find him suspicious, though.

[Erg0]

Why can't you block a recruit?

In my other cult game, leaders send their choice at night, so my block would work on them. But cults recruits join at beginning of the next day, so I don't think it would affect them.

Is this wrong?

A block only stops an active ability, so a block on a recruit doesn't stop them from being recruited. A jailkeeper would probably be able to stop someone from being recruited, though.

[Macavenger]

That's correct, I stop recruitment attempts on my target.

[Muerrto]

Mac's claim becomes more valid IMO just from that response, very matter of fact. Definitely against lynching him.

Sadly Elivs' sounds legit too. So where to now? I'll try and re-read and see what I think.

[Muerrto]

Kabenon had a pretty 'convincing' post about it being a false claim and him really being a CL. Xtomx backed it up pretty quickly without much thought and voted him at the same time. Little weird both of those. Moreso Xtomx who's been under heat earlier as well.

Andy also simply jumped in there at the end. As did Kison.

But then Xtomx jumped on Andy immediately after the lynch...

Vote: Xtomx

FoS: Andy

[Lowell]

I'll

vote Xtomx

. The armlx case is adequate, also. But I'd like to get a vote down while I think about it.

The highest priority, at this point, is making sure we get 2 kills in before deadline. Who they are is secondary.

[Erg0]

The highest priority, at this point, is making sure we get 2 kills in before deadline. Who they are is secondary.

I think you may want to justify that statement a little better.

[Macavenger]

Kabenon had a pretty 'convincing' post about it being a false claim and him really being a CL. Xtomx backed it up pretty quickly without much thought and voted him at the same time. Little weird both of those. Moreso Xtomx who's been under heat earlier as well.

Andy also simply jumped in there at the end. As did Kison.

But then Xtomx jumped on Andy immediately after the lynch...

Vote: Xtomx

FoS: Andy

I assume by 'it' you're referring to jedi's claim here? Can you explain this a bit better? I may just be being dense, but I'm not seeing where you're going with this.

[Cavebear with a toothache]

I think it was a mistake to lynch jediknight/Wayne. We obviously couldn't keep an SK alive forever, but trying to find/lynch recruiters must be the top priority.

I mentioned I didn't like Andy's game so far earlier; I still don't. Staying on armlx for now, though.

[Kison]

Andy also simply jumped in there at the end. As did Kison.

Sorry, brosef, but when someone claims to be a crazy Serial Killer named Wayne, my vote will go there.