Large Normal 212: Korts' Geriatrics - Game Over @1831

Ginngie · Post Post #1725 (ISO) » Tue Jul 24, 2018 6:54 am

You also don’t get to place a shit vote, and not discuss Eddie, Rayfrost or Momrangal

Mom which no fucking doubt blocked your ass yet you can’t put 2 and 2 together that mom lies with her teeth regarding who they blocked.

Your only saving grace was your guilty on Lycan, so get your shit together here

Ginngie · Post Post #1726 (ISO) » Tue Jul 24, 2018 7:01 am

Also don’t be the fuck wit that votes in MyLo

Eddie Cane · Post Post #1727 (ISO) » Tue Jul 24, 2018 11:17 am

its almost like someone claiming to be roleblocked + a claimed roleblocker = useful info :O

Eddie Cane · Post Post #1728 (ISO) » Tue Jul 24, 2018 11:18 am

@old man, if you want me to vote ginngie / outside mara + ray in general you gotta do a hella better job than that

Momrangal · Post Post #1729 (ISO) » Wed Jul 25, 2018 1:30 am

I blocked eddie last night. I do agree though. I do agree that oldman needs to pay more attention to the fact that ginggie is pseudocleared

Eddie Cane · Post Post #1730 (ISO) » Wed Jul 25, 2018 1:34 am

how is ginngie pseudocleared? shes town on play, not mechanics.

ISO · Post Post #1731 (ISO) » Wed Jul 25, 2018 2:15 am

Alright. So I tracked Eddie last night and he didn't go anywhere. More interesting though is that I was not roleblocked. I got the exact same result as when I tracked Insanity on night 1.

This doesn't make much sense to me. With Pine as town, I would have expected Pine to be blocked and me killed, or vise versa. This means one of the following:
- There is no scum roleblocker & Old Man lied about being blocked.
- Eddie is scum blocker, Ginngie town blocked it.
- Scum blocked someone else. Ginngie is the only one who makes sense.

Ginngie:

Are you sure your block went through?
- Scum chose not to block or forgot.

Is there any other scenario that anyone can think of? It seems really weird that if there is actually a scum roleblocker that they'd both not block the town tracker and keep him alive. On the other hand, if they didn't have the blocking role, it would make perfect sense to kill Pine out of fear of him protecting me.

Eddie Cane · Post Post #1732 (ISO) » Wed Jul 25, 2018 2:21 am

- scum roleblocker is 1 or 2 shot and out

Eddie Cane · Post Post #1733 (ISO) » Wed Jul 25, 2018 2:37 am

also mara is the rb claim not ginngie

Momrangal · Post Post #1734 (ISO) » Wed Jul 25, 2018 2:47 am

I'm running off the assumption that, if scum have an ability, they can't use said ability and kill.

According to what oldman said, there was a kill and supposedly a scum pr that went through last night, as i dont see me and another town rb so

Momrangal · Post Post #1735 (ISO) » Wed Jul 25, 2018 2:49 am

Also, no i am not told if my ability goes through or not

Ginngie · Post Post #1736 (ISO) » Wed Jul 25, 2018 2:58 am

In post 1731, Kison wrote:Alright. So I tracked Eddie last night and he didn't go anywhere. More interesting though is that I was not roleblocked. I got the exact same result as when I tracked Insanity on night 1.

This doesn't make much sense to me. With Pine as town, I would have expected Pine to be blocked and me killed, or vise versa. This means one of the following:
- There is no scum roleblocker & Old Man lied about being blocked.
- Eddie is scum blocker, Ginngie town blocked it.
- Scum blocked someone else. Ginngie is the only one who makes sense.
Ginngie:
Are you sure your block went through?
- Scum chose not to block or forgot.

Is there any other scenario that anyone can think of? It seems really weird that if there is actually a scum roleblocker that they'd both not block the town tracker and keep him alive. On the other hand, if they didn't have the blocking role, it would make perfect sense to kill Pine out of fear of him protecting me.

DUDE

ISO · Post Post #1737 (ISO) » Wed Jul 25, 2018 2:59 am

In post 1733, Eddie Cane wrote:also mara is the rb claim not ginngie

dammit i keep doing that.

In post 1734, Momrangal wrote:I'm running off the assumption that, if scum have an ability, they can't use said ability and kill.

So you think Old Man is lying, then? Because he said he was blocked the night MoI was killed. Either scum can both block & kill or he lied.

Ginngie · Post Post #1738 (ISO) » Wed Jul 25, 2018 3:00 am

In post 1, Korts wrote:(20) During Night phases, players with both individual and group Night Actions can choose to perform one or the other, but not both. For example, Mafia Power Roles cannot perform both the Mafia Night Kill and their individual Role Ability.

lol

Ginngie · Post Post #1739 (ISO) » Wed Jul 25, 2018 3:01 am

oh how the turn tables

Ginngie · Post Post #1740 (ISO) » Wed Jul 25, 2018 3:05 am

Also I have no idea wats going on regarding night actions and why mara would assume a lie or what not so if i could get a list lol

Ginngie · Post Post #1741 (ISO) » Wed Jul 25, 2018 3:12 am

I gotta level with ya

Town:
Ungated Doctor
Ungated Backup
*Ungated Tracker
*Ungated Roleblocker
*Odd night? cop/gunsmith?

vs

Scum
1-shot strongman
*maybe a roleblocker
*probs goon

look man, you dont have to be part of the NGR to understand the issues with this.

Two main things I'm noticing is a lot of ungated powers and Old man for some reason doesn't have it ungated.

The other being that Follow the cop is huge here and town is just frankly overpowered.

So looking more into Mara being a better choice as a scum!blocker that was

meant

to hinder PR and Old Man who's claim is now starting to not make sense in the grand scheme of things

Eddie Cane · Post Post #1742 (ISO) » Wed Jul 25, 2018 5:36 am

clarify your conclusion?

Ginngie · Post Post #1743 (ISO) » Wed Jul 25, 2018 5:42 am

Shits wack

Basically a PR is lying

Eddie Cane · Post Post #1744 (ISO) » Wed Jul 25, 2018 8:17 am

you forgot pgo claim

Ginngie · Post Post #1745 (ISO) » Wed Jul 25, 2018 8:26 am

THAT TOO

Like

Also take note that there was even more town players than usual.

It’s a broken set up the way it is

Eddie Cane · Post Post #1746 (ISO) » Wed Jul 25, 2018 9:28 am

pgo is neg util..

ISO · Post Post #1747 (ISO) » Wed Jul 25, 2018 5:08 pm

Korts:

Could we prod RayFrost?

I'm feeling similar about the roles, to be honest. Going into last night I suspected that one of claimed roles is probably lying. I guess it's possible scum have some kind of weird, limited roleblocker but I think it's unlikely. Which brings me back to finding it very odd that I was not blocked & paranoid that Old Man's whole role is a giant charade.

Thoughts on no lynching? If there are two scum left we should be able to afford one more loss & it could clear some of this up. If Momrangal is in fact town blocker we have a chance of stopping the kill as well, which could mean I get a result in if there's no scum blocker, or potentially blocked if there is, confirming its existence. It also would be Old Man's supposed investigation night. Have to think more on whether it's the right move but it's worth considering.

Korts · Post Post #1748 (ISO) » Wed Jul 25, 2018 10:11 pm

RayFrost has been prodded.

Ginngie · Post Post #1749 (ISO) » Thu Jul 26, 2018 5:22 am

When i get home I’ll do a risk benefit analysis of the night actions

I need to honestly read back into things but i have this gut feeling of a lie

This is just so i write it down and remember but i plan on going more into old man and sorting that slot due to claim and preformance as of late.

Kison and Old man i don’t think can be samenalignment because I can see one bus, but i can’t see a double down bus

Eddie doubts is paranoia and can be ignored on principle

Mom is just, nothing noteworthy and the rb is becoming a shaky claim for town balance

Rayfrost imma be honest, is probs scum with the double flake scum tell