Prophecy Mafia - Over

[Oman]

can we just lynch Izzyscum now?

Seriously. I believe with all of my heart that izzy is scum (which begs the question, from skruffs I'm sure, why am I on the wagon)

[curiouskarmadog]

again, the slip up wasnt that fact that Lowell referred to the word "chruch"..it was the fact that sky had no clue that Lowell was talking about...and said that lowell was being cryptic...

[DizzyIzzyB13]

You know, I apologise for calling Flameaxe a jerk. That came from annoyance at reading through the 20 or so pages worth of spam there is in this thread thanks to him.

I don't apologise for calling curiouskarmadog a moron. If you're going to act stupid, you should be prepared to be called stupid. Deal with it.

[JDodge]

Vote Count

:

DizzyIzzyB13 - 3 (curiouskarmadog, Flameaxe, Oman)
curiouskarmadog - 1 (DizzyIzzyB13)

Not voting (7): stark, hasdgfas, Iammars, UltimaAvalon, Bookitty, Skruffs, Lowell

Six to lynch.

[curiouskarmadog]

I forgive you..you are scum trying to do anything..no hard feelings.

[Bookitty]

lol,

when in doubt and you feel like you are losing

, insults?

so for the record you have no clue what the slip up is and you dont want to comment on how you know it was mentioned in mafia role PMs?

if you are not voting dizzy, I want to know why.

You're denying you made this post?

[DizzyIzzyB13]

so what was cryptic about what Lowell posted?...I know that it is an open set up, but the fact that Lowell posted that, and Syk didnt have a clue what he was talking about speaks volumes...again, how do you know it is mentioned in the mafia PM? I only see a town win condition in the mod's post.

Did he say "I am a member of the Church"? No. He gave hints rather than making a statement. How does that not qualify as "cryptic"? You're basically making an assumption about someone for forgetting flavour, not for doing anything actually scummy.

As for the Mafia role PMs... I assume that since the generic PMs themselves were linked to by the mod in earlier posts, this doesn't break any rules:

MAFIA GF:

You are the God of the cult of false prophets that is attempting to overthrow the

Church

(Mafia Godfather). Your followers are ____ (Doc), ____, ____, and ____. Since you are a god and all, your powers allow you to look town if the cop investigates you. Each night, you may speak with your followers freely, and instruct one of them to "erase" one of the loyal followers of the

Church

.

You win when you have eliminated all non-mafia roles, or when nothing can prevent this.

MAFIA DOC

You are the healer of the cult of false prophets that is attempting to overthrow the

Church

(Mafia Doc). Your god is ____ (Godfather), and your fellow false prophets are ____, ____, and ____. Since you are a healer and all, your powers allow you to treat all sorts of wounds. Each night, you may target one person, whose death will be prevented. Each night, you may speak with your God and your colleagues, and decide on one loyal follower of the

Church

to "erase".

You win when you have eliminated all non-mafia roles, or when nothing can prevent this.

MAFIA GOON

You are a member of the cult of false prophets that is attempting to overthrow the

Church

(Mafia Goon). Your god is ____ (Godfather), your healer is ____ (Doc), and your colleagues are ____, and ____. Each night, you may speak with your God and your colleagues, and decide on one loyal follower of the

Church

to "erase".

You win when you have eliminated all non-mafia roles, or when nothing can prevent this.

They are aquired from HERE, as linked to in post two. Note the multiple references to the "Church" in each of them.

Bookitty, I note you defense of Dizzy, did I say "and you feel like you are losing"?

I said when in doubt...DIzzy obviously didnt know how to answer my question, becuase they were avoided twice (once at the time I posted that)...so instead of answering the question, he insulted me..

I was waiting for you to answer the question i asked you first. Also... pay attention and get genders right, please. Especially when you have a nice helpful little pink/blue icon to help.

[DizzyIzzyB13]

again, the slip up wasnt that fact that Lowell referred to the word "chruch"..it was the fact that sky had no clue that Lowell was talking about...and said that lowell was being cryptic...

I would like you to justify not calling Lowell cryptic. It's an accurate description of his post. And again... you're implying he's scum for forgetting flavour. The other person who forgot the flavour wasn't scum. The flavour he's supposed to have forgotten was in every single role PM. There's no basis for actually assuming he's scum based on the evidence placed in front of you.

[curiouskarmadog]

ahh, I didnt see that link that the mod provided..well, I will admit when I am wrong..and I guess in this case I am wrong...it could have been easy for Lowell to fake that post...

I still think that syk it is suspicious that he forgot the flavor and thought lowell was being cryptic...but as you pointed out, in the mafia PM (that were provided) Church is mentioned numerous times, so, I cant see mafia forgeting the flavor either...so I guess it a null tell...

dont like the name calling or syk's flaking, but can understand the fustration....especially if you really are town...I guess what I dont get was why syk couldnt post that or why it could dizzy many posts to do it...

unvote

, for now...seems like I need to reread.

[DizzyIzzyB13]

I assumed you had more of a case than just that, because based on the fact that when I replaced in I read everything and thus knew the contents of all the role PMs and such, it seemed far too obvious that it wasn't any sort of legit case. But, since you appear to have been arguing from a position of ignorance (as in, unaware of key information, with no pejorative intent) rather than from a stupidly held position... well, I apologise for calling you a moron and

unvote

.

Syke flaked out probably because he couldn't work out what your case against him was and it drove him mad that you wouldn't make a case against him he could defend against.

[Skruffs]

The case that sykedoc left abruptly was used, incorrectly, in Big Love against Guardian, who was replaced by Sikario. Sikario was lynched instead of known scum which put town in an almost unwinnable situation, and they quickly lost.

Using someone's droping out of a game as a scum tell is not acceptable. I have never seen it used correctly by town to catch scum. Actually, I think town (desperately) use it more often than scum do, in situations where there are not many other leads.

My guess is that Lowell is scum.
My guess is that Dizzy is town.
My guess is that Oman is survivor.
My guess is that Flameaxe is scum.
My guess is that BooKitty is town.
My guess is that Iammars is scum.
My guess is that Stark is scum.
My guess is that COW is town.
My guess is that UltimaAvalon is town.
My guess is that curiouskarmadog is scum.
And of course, I am town.

[curiouskarmadog]

I was not using it solely on that skruffs...and I think you know that.

[Oman]

I don't like the fact that when CKD unvoted Dizzy unvoted too. Seems really OMGUS.

[Skruffs]

I wasn't inferring that you were, CKD. In fact, I Wasn't directly inferring that anyone was. I just remembered that it had been bandied about.

Oman: Do you think CKD is town?

[curiouskarmadog]

Skruffs, why do you think that Dizzy and Bookitty are town?

[Skruffs]

Aren't you more interested in knowing why I think you are scum?

[Bookitty]

Bookitty, I note you defense of Dizzy, did I say "and you feel like you are losing"?

I said when in doubt...DIzzy obviously didnt know how to answer my question, becuase they were avoided twice (once at the time I posted that)...so instead of answering the question, he insulted me..

Bookitty any reason you are putting words in my mouth and treating them like a quote?

lol,

when in doubt and you feel like you are losing

, insults?

so for the record you have no clue what the slip up is and you dont want to comment on how you know it was mentioned in mafia role PMs?

if you are not voting dizzy, I want to know why.

You're denying you made this post?

I still await an answer.

[curiouskarmadog]

well apparently I did say it...I thought I said when in doubt....at any rate, I explained what I meant..he was losing the arguement and avoiding the question.

Bookitty, anyone could easily go back and see the post (I had to because I thought I said "in doubt)..if I said "I do deny it", what would have been your next move?...meaning, why are you asking?

you agree wth skruffs that I said "lose" because I am scum and the town is losing? OR I said "lose" because I was in a heated discussion with someone that I felt was avoiding the conversation and calling casting insults.

ALso bookitty, interested in your thoughts on Skruff's list of town/scum.

[Bookitty]

Your quoted statement seems nearly like scum gloating. That's why I'm asking.

Town is always in doubt; they don't know who the scum are, or if they're right about things. And in this game, town is in serious danger of losing. So your comments are very apt and on-target for scum to taunt town with. Your apparent memory lapse about having said it at all seems pretty convenient as well.

Did Skruffs say that quote was why he thought you were scum? I missed it, if so. That is not the main reason I'm suspicious of you, but it is not helping either.

About Skruffs' list: I am not sure about Dizzy as town yet, and not sure about the lurkers (I want replacements and more evidence there -- I do NOT want a lurker lynch at LYLO). Otherwise I'm in basic agreement with Skruffs' list. Most suspicious of you and Lowell, not willing to take any advice from Oman, and fairly certain Skruffs is town.

[Skruffs]

you agree wth skruffs that I said "lose" because I am scum and the town is losing? OR I said "lose" because I was in a heated discussion with someone that I felt was avoiding the conversation and calling casting insults.

I've never referred to that quote in regards to you, CKD.

[curiouskarmadog]

you agree wth skruffs that I said "lose" because I am scum and the town is losing? OR I said "lose" because I was in a heated discussion with someone that I felt was avoiding the conversation and calling casting insults.

I've never referred to that quote in regards to you, CKD.

I thought you did, but it looks as if just Bookitty said it.

so are you answering my question with a question? Why is Boo and Dizz town, in your opinion?

[Oman]

Skruffs. I;m not really sure about CKD.

Dizzy is scum, however.

[curiouskarmadog]

why?

[Skruffs]

Again, why aren't you interested in why I think you are scum?
Considering there is equal numbers of town and scum, I would think that clearing or damning any player is equally beneficial (minus a vig claiming of course)

[curiouskarmadog]

because I dont think you think I am scum..

now answer MY questions, which were posed first.