Elemental Mafia- Game Over!

[Korlash]

Hey that must be me then!!!!

>.> I'm not armix...

[elvis_knits]

No...I didn't have a comment on the DoS wagon... I personally think we'd be better served with an armlx or elvis_knits wagon. They seem to be leading everyone around and getting town killed off.

I am coming to agree that multiple lynching is most likely the best course in this game, but I'm also struggling with the inherent need I have for reason. I'm not seeing alot of reasoning. Elvis_knits voted Andycyca for little reason than he was gone for the weekend. It all just seems reckless. Perhaps this game is meant to be reckless.

I will

unvote armlix vote: DoS

. The page or so after my last post does raise questions with me and survivor just doesn't wash. I'm fast thinking this game is moves too fast for my way of thinking. But I still question armlix and elvis_knits methods.

vote jedi

Nice hammer and blame other people post.

Um except he didn't blame other people, he blamed you...

And you OMGUS'ed him immediately after...

Thinking before I place my next vote, don't like Elvis' quick attack

He didn't just blame me... he blames armlx too. And it's not like I was trying to conceal who he was blaming. I quoted his whole post.

But seriously, who goes around like "I'm really suspicious of A and B and I really don't like how they're trying to lynch C, so I guess I'll just hammer C and blame A and B."

[Erg0]

I largely agree with elvis's reasoning. Hammering while backing away from the wagon is something I often see from scum.

Unvote, Vote: jediknight

[jediknight]

Elvis_knits...you're doing exactly the same thing that i've got a problem with...all you're doing is proving my point.

Lynch happy and moving from person to person based on little more than the last post they posted...sheesh... If I'm not mistaken you were just shy of the hammer yourself.

vote elvis_knits

[armlx]

Was already going to move here before that last post.

Vote Jedi

[dahill1]

Vote Count

(3) Jediknight: (Elvis Knits, Erg0, Armlx)
(2) Armlx: (DGB, Korlash)
(1) Elvis Knits: (Jediknight)
(1) Macavenger: (Ooba)
(1) Mneme: (Farside)
(11) Not voting: (Andycyca, Roland, Kison, Muerrto, Lowell, Pooky, Kabenon, Macavenger, Mneme, Cavebear, Xtoxm)

19 players alive, means 10 votes to lynch.

[armlx]

Lol, the vote count got sarnath'ed.

[kabenon007]

I definitely agree with elvis on this one.

Vote: Jediknight

[Macavenger]

first off, it is in towns best interest to lynch many, quickly. it is in cults interest to not lynch. The more we lynch, the less likely they will be able to build up. In reality, cult has no reason to want to see 10 town dead, they want to see other cults dead yes, but not so much town. If your wanting scum tells try and find people who are acting like they want as many lynches, but doing things that slow them down. Also late bandwagoning, and a small bit of poor reasoning for votes are also good tells. (keeps up apperances but little to no effort has been made)

I'm curious what some other more experienced players think of Korlash's logic about finding scum here.

Also, I don't think much more needs to be said about jedi.

Vote: jediknight

. I think he semi-claimed unrecruitable earlier. If you are an unrecruitable power role jedi, you'd better full claim, and hope it's testable.

[Battle Mage]

Both VoteCount mistakes fixed.

[armlx]

Korlash's logic is the same as "Look at those trying to scum hunt but faking it" that normally applies. Usually those trying to fake being pro-some endevour are scum.

[Xtoxm]

vote Ergo

He seems to be doing very litte.

[Erg0]

That would be correct, yes. I was busy over the weekend when the game exploded, hence I missed something like 14 pages of action. I'm playing now, though.

[elvis_knits]

Elvis_knits...you're doing exactly the same thing that i've got a problem with...all you're doing is proving my point.

Lynch happy and moving from person to person based on little more than the last post they posted...sheesh... If I'm not mistaken you were just shy of the hammer yourself.

vote elvis_knits

You are not responding to my point.

I did put DoS at L-1, because I thought he was scum.

You seemed to think the wagon was BS and that me and armlx are scum. Uh, so why did you vote with us?

Why did you hammer someone you didn't think was scum?

[jediknight]

I never said that I didn't think that DoS wasn't scum. I just said I didn't have a comment on the bandwagon. This is you putting words in my mouth. I still think that you and Armlx are the best choice in my mind for scummy behavior...which I have said several times.

If quick lynching is the way to go and apparently everyone thinks so then why wouldn't I hammer DoS? Someone had to.

In short, I'd support a armlx or knits lynch at this point.

[mneme]

first off, it is in towns best interest to lynch many, quickly. it is in cults interest to not lynch. The more we lynch, the less likely they will be able to build up. In reality, cult has no reason to want to see 10 town dead, ...

I'm curious what some other more experienced players think of Korlash's logic about finding scum here.

His basic premise is complete bunk, but his conclusions aren't awful.

Certainly, before we had a limit, it was in the town's interest to lynch and get info/eliminate scum quickly (not so much to elimnate recruitable townies as to get BW info and kill scum), whereas scum, while having a strong incentive to use the bandwagon to kill competing scum and townies, was statistically served with a lower kill rate.

Also, I don't think much more needs to be said about jedi.

Vote: jediknight

. I think he semi-claimed unrecruitable earlier. If you are an unrecruitable power role jedi, you'd better full claim, and hope it's testable.

I'm not liking Jedinight or elvis_knits much at the moment. OTOH, with what's likely to be 5 unconnected scum + ~2 recruits, there's no reason they both can't be scum.

vote: elvis_knits

[elvis_knits]

I never said that I didn't think that DoS wasn't scum.

I just said I didn't have a comment on the bandwagon.

This is you putting words in my mouth. I still think that you and Armlx are the best choice in my mind for scummy behavior...which I have said several times.

If quick lynching is the way to go and apparently everyone thinks so then why wouldn't I hammer DoS? Someone had to.

In short, I'd support a armlx or knits lynch at this point.

(bolding mine)

So you're saying you decided to hammer someone you didn't have a comment on? Because you wanted to help me out? Even though you think I'm scum?

That makes no sense.

[jediknight]

Elvis_knits... You're reaching.
I don't know how to do the jediknight wrote thing, bolded text for clarification.

No...I

didn't

have a comment on the DoS wagon... I personally think we'd be better served with an armlx or elvis_knits wagon. They seem to be leading everyone around and getting town killed off.

I am coming to agree that multiple lynching is most likely the best course in this game, but I'm also struggling with the inherent need I have for reason. I'm not seeing alot of reasoning. Elvis_knits voted Andycyca for little reason than he was gone for the weekend. It all just seems reckless. Perhaps this game is meant to be reckless.

I will unvote armlix vote: DoS .

The page or so after my last post does raise questions with me and survivor just doesn't wash.

I'm fast thinking this game is moves too fast for my way of thinking. But I still question armlix and elvis_knits methods.

I said I DIDN'T have a comment on the wagon. As I was asked a couple pages before directly if I did have a comment. But that my thinking had changed over the last page and a half of content SINCE my last post had raised questions. My voting had nothing to do with you or helping you. I didn't buy survivor any more than anyone else did. And sadly I was wrong. As was everyone else. And I still don't buy you and armlx.

[elvis_knits]

Can you stop trying to pair me with armlx? Thanks.

[Macavenger]

Mod:

Andycyca and DGB haven't posted since Monday. Prods perhaps? Also, can you clarify the number of lynches we have left today? Looking back at that announcement, in one post it looked like the modkill and vigging were counting against our limit, but in another it didn't.

[Xtoxm]

That would be correct, yes. I was busy over the weekend when the game exploded, hence I missed something like 14 pages of action. I'm playing now, though.

Ok, that's fair enough, just don't wanna let people use lurking as a strategy.

[Muerrto]

That would be correct, yes. I was busy over the weekend when the game exploded, hence I missed something like 14 pages of action. I'm playing now, though.

Ok, that's fair enough, just don't wanna let people use lurking as a strategy.

But you didn't unvote...

[Xtoxm]

That would be correct, yes. I was busy over the weekend when the game exploded, hence I missed something like 14 pages of action. I'm playing now, though.

Ok, that's fair enough, just don't wanna let people use lurking as a strategy.

But you didn't unvote...

That is an accurate observation, yes...

[Battle Mage]

Mod:

Andycyca and DGB haven't posted since Monday. Prods perhaps? Also, can you clarify the number of lynches we have left today? Looking back at that announcement, in one post it looked like the modkill and vigging were counting against our limit, but in another it didn't.

I'll prod them now. You have a maximum of 3 lynches remaining today.

[armlx]

That would be correct, yes. I was busy over the weekend when the game exploded, hence I missed something like 14 pages of action. I'm playing now, though.

Ok, that's fair enough, just don't wanna let people use lurking as a strategy.

But you didn't unvote...

That is an accurate observation, yes...

So, since you didn't again, you are voting someone for not having access? Sounds dumb/opportunistic to me.