Mini 567 - iPick - Game Over: The Stunning Conclusion

[shaft.ed]

Since I'm cleared as town I will claim my target last.

Nibbler has finely tuned logical skills.

[Xtoxm]

Well, I doubt he knew he was weak.

And the death scene said he died from a heart attack.

This doesn't sound to me like he was killed, more like he died from protecting scum.

And I protected you btw, shaft.

[Adel]

I protected shafted last night.

I will not self vote.

if the nibbler post restriction still in effect?

[Xtoxm]

Adel, who do you think is the scum?

[Xtoxm]

Since I'm cleared as town I will claim my target last.

Nibbler has finely tuned logical skills.

Yeh sounds good.

This is lylo, so we need to get full claims.

I think we should decide on an order for this.

[shaft.ed]

Paradox - Can you paraphrase how you protect people as Neville. I can't see Neville as a doctor at all.

The only differences are that I die if I target any antitown faction and my power doesn't work if I'm protected by someone else.

He knew he was a weak Doc.

Nibbler has a very large member

[Adel]

I think Shaft.ed should direct the claims.

[shaft.ed]

I think Shaft.ed should direct the claims.

I'm waiting on Kison. I still want Adel to self vote, but I may be willing to allow Kison to vote for her.

Nibbler can jump higher than MJ.

[Adel]

I'm looking for a Para breadcrumb, but I am not seeing it. Could that mean he targeted someone he totally thought was pro-town? Is there an alternate explanation for why we have two corpses?

[shaft.ed]

I'm looking for a Para breadcrumb, but I am not seeing it. Could that mean he targeted someone he totally thought was pro-town? Is there an alternate explanation for why we have two corpses?

If you see hoof prints it's more likely a horse than a zebra. We have a claimed forced vig who targeted a dead person. And a weak doc that knew he would die if he targeted scum, but had also found a townie N1.

Nibbler has beautiful eyes.

[Xtoxm]

Well RB claimed vig but he claimed same target as (what seems to be) the scum kill, and like I say it really looks like a protect scum death "heart attack".

[Xtoxm]

I'm looking for a Para breadcrumb, but I am not seeing it. Could that mean he targeted someone he totally thought was pro-town? Is there an alternate explanation for why we have two corpses?

If you see hoof prints it's more likely a horse than a zebra. We have a claimed forced vig who targeted a dead person. And a weak doc that knew he would die if he targeted scum, but had also found a townie N1.

Nibbler has beautiful eyes.

He was probably trying to confirm someone else as town.

[Lawrencelot]

Oh...Sorry about that, things just kept pooping into my head, didn't realise I made a load of simul-posts. No restriction/antirestriction

I'm pretty sure Adel is town.

Do you not think what I said makes sense?

I am a bit worried that Xtoxm is not finding Adel suspicious. But whoever Adel's partner is, is for later concern.

This sounds like you're implying i'm scum.

Why is Adel town? What you say makes sense, except that Adel is town. What if Para targeted her? That also fits with the flavour. And no I am implying that if Adel turns up scum, I will not only look at Kison but also at you.

I really want to vote Adel. Who thinks it's risky?

[Xtoxm]

Because it looks like she's been framed. There was a gillyweed kill, clearly framing PX, and last night an "avada kedavra" or whatever it is, clearly framing Adel. Hence, Adel must be a townie, to be framed.

I don't want you voting Adel.

And you thinking i'm scum is absurd.

[Lawrencelot]

I don't know if you're scum. I also don't know Kison is scum. All I got is Adel

Your logic looks good, but if the one is a frame that doesn't necessarily mean the other one's a frame. And if it's the mafia who chooses the way of killing, there's also WIFOM. A normal frame makes someone look guilty to cops btw, so I'm not sure if I understand what you mean.

[shaft.ed]

I'm not familiar with the Green Glow, but does that not fit with something Link would do in Legend of Zelda games? (at least I know he wears green).

And Para using his ability to search for townies is just a bad play, I don't think he would have done that.


You can bounce a quarter off of Nibbler's tight ass.

[Xtoxm]

Flash of green light is a spell used in the HP series by LV to take life, called the avada kedavra.

[Adel]

I don't know if you're scum. I also don't know Kison is scum. All I got is Adel

Your logic looks good, but if the one is a frame that doesn't necessarily mean the other one's a frame. And if it's the mafia who chooses the way of killing, there's also WIFOM. A normal frame makes someone look guilty to cops btw, so I'm not sure if I understand what you mean.

we are at lynch or lose, right?

[Xtoxm]

I don't know if you're scum. I also don't know Kison is scum. All I got is Adel

Your logic looks good, but if the one is a frame that doesn't necessarily mean the other one's a frame. And if it's the mafia who chooses the way of killing, there's also WIFOM. A normal frame makes someone look guilty to cops btw, so I'm not sure if I understand what you mean.

Well, some kind of framing. I don't think they would have opted not to "frame" if they have the ability.

How am I scum? I killed volkan, scum, with a kill seperate to the scum kill that night...Can you not see i'm clear?

[Lawrencelot]

Mod: please prod Kison.

If we're waiting for a Kison claim, we might better pressure him. I won't, as I am less interested in Kison's claim than in Adel's alignment. But if everyone wants me not to vote Adel, I'll wait for the claim.

Xtoxm I'm not accusing you of being scum. All I said was "I'm worried that you think Adel is town". You are close to cleared, only if Adel turns up scum and if Kison will look way more protown than you in some miracle way, then I'll consider you being scum.

[Adel]

But if everyone wants me not to vote Adel, I'll wait for the claim.

I think you are bluffing, and focusing attention on me. why?

[Kison]

Yeah, request prodding after just over 24 hours on the last minute replacement into a 50 page game. You are a very considerate fellow, Lawrence!

Anyway, this game's confusing, but I've made a list of the roleclaims I've seen so far. This is what I've come up with :

1) Kison - None?
2) Xtoxm - Doctor (Napolean's Dynamite)
3) Adel - Doctor (Lord Voldemort)
4) Rogueben - Vigilante (Link)
5) shaft.ed - Triforce
6) Lawrencelot - One-Shot Governor

A few thoughts :

Unless someone else claims the kill on Vollkan, I don't see how Xtoxm could be scum alongside him, given that, well, I've never exactly seen scum kill their own partner at fucking night. Lawrence also used his governor ability. I've only ever seen that as a scum role once, and it worked differently. It's also possible that RB had a lynch immunity and that Lawrence claimed Governor as a cover.

I also notice Paradoxombie claimed that he'd die if he ever hit scum. Basically, such a role is a brilliant half/half protection/investigative tool with the ultimate penalty of death. Cleared Shafted N1. Since he flipped town, I'm banking on believing him, obviously. I am not ruling out that he suicided last night.

I am bothered by the Doctor triplets. Two, maybe, but three? Of the three, one obviously is dead, the other has claimed a scum kill, but I see nothing of the sort to help clear Adel. If I'm missing something, please point it out.

Roleclaiming is not exactly something I am very happy to see that I'm being forced into, but at LyLo and the claim-hungry growing, it may be impossible for me to avoid. However, I'm not going to roleclaim without precaution : My role PM indicates there's an alternative win condition for scum given that certain things happen. I may or may not know what that is. I may or may not know the level of completion, and I may or may not know if it's still possible to achieve. Point being, claiming

could

result in a premature game-end & town loss, regardless of our lynch successes. Given

that

warning, do you(primarily SHAFT.ED) want me to claim?

Correct any of my potentially horribly wrong conclusions. I've not read the entirety of this game, but I'm obviously wanted to get things moving so I am posting this now.

[Xtoxm]

Hmm, that sounds quite odd.

[shaft.ed]

Kison, claim as much of your role as you can without revealing the scum alternate win. I think I know what you are and I think you're scum.

Thanks for all the hard work though

Nibbler has bulging pecs.

[Xtoxm]

What do you think he is?