Open 62 - Strawberry Mafia - Game Over! before 568

[Xtoxm]

Dizzy, I can't tell if you genuinly believe this, or if you made a slip and have to stand by it...But you don't lynch the claimed cop to test if he's telling the truth...Especially not when he's claimed a guilty.

[Xtoxm]

And if he's lying we'd know right away after night, cos the real would be NKed at night.

[Xtoxm]

OK, so explain the way you're looking at it so I can understand your point of view.

I just don't think dragging out day is advantageous. I don't like it when a lynch has been decided on and then people start unvoting and saying "Oh we need to talk before we lynch him".

[Cephrir]

Why not? More talking is always better for town, because it allows anyone who might be NKed that Night the chance to leave some more detailed thoughts behind (though that doesn't apply too much to this situation since we all but know who will be NKed), and it gives scum more oppurtunities to slip up in total, as well as more chances to slip up while the to-be-NKed player is around to notice it.

[Xtoxm]

Yeh talk is good...But I don't think days should be too long. I think it's better if you have a 3/4 week deadline, not days dragging on for ages. And I think once a lynch has being decided, it should jsut be put through. I think sometimes a little twighlight talk can help, but don't think days should be dragged out like this.

[Ectomancer]

Without beating everyone with a stick and making them make some kind of committed opinion of the days events (and the value of that is actually decreasing), I dont think you are going to get much of scum slipping up further from this point.
I'd say end the day. If you have something that needs said, put it out there and lets get this done.
I would still lynch Dizzy tomorrow.

[Snix]

if, by some stroke of luck, you survive night are you going to investigate dizzy?

[Xtoxm]

If he survives night he is scum.

[Ectomancer]

if, by some stroke of luck, you survive night are you going to investigate dizzy?

I'll investigate ThAdmiral again

[DizzyIzzyB13]

Dizzy, I can't tell if you genuinly believe this, or if you made a slip and have to stand by it...But you don't lynch the claimed cop to test if he's telling the truth...Especially not when he's claimed a guilty.

It's not a "slip". Lynching either of them would confirm the claim. I still think Ecto is more likely to be scum than ThAdmiral, so we'd be better off lynching him and getting scum out of the way today, rather than lynchingThAdmiral to find out he's innocent. But, I seem to be in a minority of one on that one. So...

vote: ThAdmiral[/].

If he's a cop, Ecto better investigate me tonight. I'd rather like to avoid being lynched on the basis of a misread if he survives.

[Xtoxm]

Your status in my mind keeps slipping.

[DizzyIzzyB13]

Excellent. I'm sure the scum will thank you for that later.

I screwed up...

vote: ThAdmiral

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[Scigatt]

That's L-2...really, all I'm waiting for is the Mod to show up(where is he?). However, I will vote ThAdmiral regardless on the 23rd(or 21st) if he doesn't show up.

[DizzyIzzyB13]

The fact that ThAdmiral has been posting elsewhere but not here is rather galling. It makes him seem more guilty, which is bad news for those of us on the "Ecto is scum" wagon (ie. me...)

[Cephrir]

Without beating everyone with a stick and making them make some kind of committed opinion of the days events (and the value of that is actually decreasing), I dont think you are going to get much of scum slipping up further from this point.
I'd say end the day. If you have something that needs said, put it out there and lets get this done.
I would still lynch Dizzy tomorrow.

Mm, in a situation with a confirmed scum it's different, but in general this is not the case, and it seemed that Xtoxm was making a broad argument.

Dizzy is still looking worse every post, and I didn't think she could get much worse.

[Marmalade]

unvote, vote: ThAdmiral

Don't really see any reason to keep this going any longer, to be honest.

[Ectomancer]

Without beating everyone with a stick and making them make some kind of committed opinion of the days events (and the value of that is actually decreasing), I dont think you are going to get much of scum slipping up further from this point.
I'd say end the day. If you have something that needs said, put it out there and lets get this done.
I would still lynch Dizzy tomorrow.

Mm, in a situation with a confirmed scum it's different, but in general this is not the case,

and it seemed that Xtoxm was making a broad argument.

Dizzy is still looking worse every post, and I didn't think she could get much worse.

I dont disagree with the bolded part.

[DizzyIzzyB13]

Does that mean you disagree with the unbolded parts? :p

[Ectomancer]

Dizzy, nothing you can say today or tomorrow would prevent me from lynching you, however, if by a slim chance you are town, here is my suggestion:

Just because you are the lynch tomorrow doesn't mean that the day needs to be short. I think you should completely give up trying to defend yourself.
Take the lead tomorrow scum hunting. Find the scum. When you die, if you turn up town, they can go back and read what you had to say and give it the credence it deserves. You can die knowing you did your best.

[neko2086]

good advice

vote: thAdmiral

It's becoming clear we're not going to get anything else accomplished today.

[DizzyIzzyB13]

Dizzy, nothing you can say today or tomorrow would prevent me from lynching you, however, if by a slim chance you are town, here is my suggestion:

Just because you are the lynch tomorrow doesn't mean that the day needs to be short. I think you should completely give up trying to defend yourself.
Take the lead tomorrow scum hunting. Find the scum. When you die, if you turn up town, they can go back and read what you had to say and give it the credence it deserves. You can die knowing you did your best.

The sad thing is, that's probably true of the rest of them, and I'd really rather they catch scum tomorrow. Since the only read I had was you/Yvonne = scum, then I'm screwed in terms of defending myself.

[klebian]

i have been busy, vote count/stuff later

[DizzyIzzyB13]

I'm fairly sure that was a lynch, kleb. At least, according to other people's statements, anyway. Uh... are there rules about twighlight posting, or can we keep looking for scum while we wait?

[DizzyIzzyB13]

EBWOP: Ah, according to the rules...

4. Once a player or no lynch hits a majority, it is Twilight. Talking can continue until the thread is locked.

Excellent.

[Xtoxm]

So can we get this lynch through guys?