@darkdude:
darkdude wrote:
Talitha made some weird post restating the same thing in three consecutive posts
I point out weird behaviour (weird, not necessarily scummy)
QF says I was being mean
Which of course made no sense at all. When I talked about it she was still under the impression that I was being mean and telling talitha to "drop everything and play mafia".
I assumed everyone remembered so I didn't rewrite this in the last posts.
1.) How did she restate the same thing?
2.) First it's weird behavior she's lurking, then it's weird behavior that she's posting.
3.) Because of points 1 & 2, you're not giving her a fair chance.
4.) Also, accusing her of lurking is kind of mean given her reasons for doing so (3 children and Easter coming up).
I feel that it's reasonable for me to defend someone if I feel you're treating them unfairly and trying to latch on to a case that isn't there. I might have slightly blown it out of proportion, that is all. I am a fairly emotional person (I'm an artist, for goodness sake) and Akonas may attest to that.
So, it makes some sense, but it's not my usual cold logic. I can concede that, darkdude.
@EmpTyger: Actually, I haven't quite gotten the suspicion thing down because the only other mafia game I played in I was scum and it was very easy to lead everyone astray. So, I'm uncomfortable maintaining strong suspicions. The thing with darkdude, I dislike his playstyle completely but I don't especially have a gut feeling about him - I think I'd need a combination of the two to find it really suspicious.
Let's do a player analysis:
Cephrir - I can see how he would be latching on to me as a townie pet earlier, seeing if by agreeing with me he could get me to blindly support him. That wouldn't work with me. But, anyway, that's a possibility and I don't know that I necessarily believe it. I think he's been bad at defending himself, but it's a weak case which is difficult and frustrating to respond to.
thevampireofdusseldorf - I don't really know - he seemed pretty eager to get on Talitha's case, that accompanied with a hammer is reason to be suspicious of him.
Talitha - Seems pretty protown to me. I believed her excuse and she's been reasonable.
Pink Puppy - A bit hawkish, kind of building a weak case on Cephrir - that's either a scumtell or an aggressive playstyle. Haven't determined which yet all the way.
windkirby - I kind of forgot about him. He hasn't been posting much. He hasn't done anything big or fundamental, kind of stayed out of the heat (at least in my perspective). Staying in the background could be scummy. Kind of a not a quite lurking, but essentially that. Either scummy or busy. (Okay, now that I'm on page 27, I see he's posting. All previous statements were as of page 26.)
darkdude - You know my opinions of darkdude if you're not braindead. I don't particularly respect his intellect, and find much issue with his playstyle. Gut-wise, though, I'm uncomfortable lynching him because of mozsuggs and his alignment. Which is basically why I unvoted him - I don't know that I have ample reason to be suspicious of him other than personal distaste - though the "I didn't mean for this comment to be helpful" thing really doesn't aid his case. I dunno, he just doesn't seem to be putting much into this game, which is rather unfortunate.
vikingfan - He doesn't post much and his posts are always short.
Akonas - I feel uncomfortable assailing him with insults while he is at my house. It will suffice to say that though I am infinitely biased in these matters, his buddying up posts do cause me to raise an eyebrow. He's usually a bit meaner in these games, I think. Or more blunt, perhaps. In any case, he appears to have been attempting to assuage many of these conflicts, where he would typically have been in the heat of it.
EmpTyger - EmpTyger is playing well. Zeddicus did not...hmmm. Because there are two types of scum, the good kind and the bad kind. The bad kind are sloppy, the good kind are pretty meticulous, go through everything, form sound arguments...I'll have to go through zed's posts later.
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In response to windkirby's post: Akonas, please confirm that I am terrible at making jokes and I over-explain everything.
Windkirby, you obviously were not going to get lynched for joke-voting Akonas or yelling at him or whatever it was I was defending him for. Clearly, it was a joke.
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@darkdude: You're annoying. (And I'm a hypocrite because I'm being mean now.)
darkdude wrote:
This is mafia. Like VoD said, do you expect us to give a hug before lynching? Lack of compassion does not mean hatred. So I see no need for you to interfere with my questioning.
Poorly founded? Any question is better than no question at all right? I'm not trying to set up and inescapable trap or anything. So if she answers with a good explanation then it's okay. If not then we could catch scum. Win-win?
I'm feeling you're giving me double standard here. Remember a couple pages back you wanted me to speak only the things I KNOW will be of use to town?
1.) I don't care who you hate. This is an issue of courtesy, completely irrelevant to the game. I was not suspicious of you for it. I didn't say, "Darkdude, you are a jerk, so you're scum." No.
2.) This is a game for entertainment for most of us, I believe. There is no reason to harangue players for their personal endeavors. That is the only point that I was making in reference to your treatment of Talitha.
3.) It's not only saying things you know will be of use to town. It's not saying things that will be of no use to town.
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@Akonas: I think windkirby basically said he's voting for Cephrir for irregularities in his playstyle and at the same time he has a gut feeling darkdude isn't scum because he's such a newbie.
(Yes, I'm purposefully embarrassing you, dear.)
