Mafia 73: NEGWLTWWWTKY - Abandoned!

[zu_Faul]

Because you are scum and saw no one hopped on it.

[Battle Mage]

Because you are scum and saw no one hopped on it.

only 4 people had even posted. And one of them hasnt read the game yet. Tell me, Zu Faul, do you think i have mental issues? Do you think i am the thickest guy on the planet? As scum, i dont have the unbridled optimism that allows me to think that by casting a vote and promising forthcoming reasoning, i will somehow get a mislynch without giving any information whatsoever?

Think about this. Then unvote. Then hide your head in shame.

BM

[zu_Faul]

I thought you had "improved" and didn't do dumb things like randomly voting people for no good reason at all Day 3.
Maybe scummy was the wrong word in this case and it was stupid. Your play makes as few sense as scum as it does as town.

unvote

.

[Battle Mage]

I thought you had "improved" and didn't do dumb things like randomly voting people for no good reason at all Day 3.

THERE WAS A GOOD REASON!!!!!!!!! omfg

Maybe scummy was the wrong word in this case and it was stupid. Your play makes as few sense as scum as it does as town.

unvote

.

right, now we are getting somewhere. Now, what are your thoughts on TS?
PBPA?

BM

[Flameaxe]

I thought you had "improved" and didn't do dumb things like randomly voting people for no good reason at all Day 3.

THERE WAS A GOOD REASON!!!!!!!!! omfg

Maybe scummy was the wrong word in this case and it was stupid. Your play makes as few sense as scum as it does as town.

unvote

.

right, now we are getting somewhere. Now, what are your thoughts on TS?
PBPA?

BM

ZOMG, HE SAID THERE WAS A GOOD REASON, THEREFORE THERE MUST BE!!!!!!!!!

ZOMG!!!!!

[elvis_knits]

BM said there was a reason but he never mentioned one. So there was none other than trying to start a baseless wagon. It's not OMGUS, it's reasonable to say it's scummy.

F**k this. If theres one thing i hate more than being fed a bunch of bs, its being called a liar. There was a reason, and guess what? Just to shut you up, i'm gonna damn well find it.

Usually if you have a reason, you don't have to go "find it."

[Battle Mage]

BM said there was a reason but he never mentioned one. So there was none other than trying to start a baseless wagon. It's not OMGUS, it's reasonable to say it's scummy.

F**k this. If theres one thing i hate more than being fed a bunch of bs, its being called a liar. There was a reason, and guess what? Just to shut you up, i'm gonna damn well find it.

Usually if you have a reason, you don't have to go "find it."

because we just a night phase, and during that time, i forgot. My ability to remember regarding this game is evidently not the greatest.

[Flameaxe]

BM said there was a reason but he never mentioned one. So there was none other than trying to start a baseless wagon. It's not OMGUS, it's reasonable to say it's scummy.

F**k this. If theres one thing i hate more than being fed a bunch of bs, its being called a liar. There was a reason, and guess what? Just to shut you up, i'm gonna damn well find it.

Usually if you have a reason, you don't have to go "find it."

because we just a night phase, and during that time, i forgot. My ability to remember regarding this game is evidently not the greatest.

Most people go to "find it" before they put pressure on someone. "Oh I think I had some reason that I found him scummy on the last day, but I can't remember" is conveniently not a very amazing reason to vote.

[vollkan]

Ah. You meant a reason for voting me.

Now that's stupid. You vote me for nothing and hope a bandwagon forms on me, after some guys yesterday already said they were suspicious of me.

Vote: Battle Mage

I think this post is fascinating and I would love to gain a deeper insight into your ideas. How do you see BM as trying to start a bandwagon on you?

That reminds me...

Vote: Zu_faul

Because you are scum and saw no one hopped on it.

Or...just...maybe he decided to cast a reasoned vote for TS instead?

because we just a night phase, and during that time, i forgot. My ability to remember regarding this game is evidently not the greatest.

[Xylthixlm]

Known town:
Kaleidoscope
Mastermind of Sin
Yosarian2
Peers
schismatized
Sikario0/Setael
hasdgfas*
ABR/Xylthixlm*

End of day 1 vote count:
10: Kscope (Zu_Faul, Yosarian2, schismatized, Quagmire, Erg0, ABR, Setael, Sir T, MoS, Panzerjager, hasdgfas)
5: Quagmire (Battle Mage, JordanA24, TS, Bookitty, Peers)
3: MoS (Kscope, IH, TS)
1: Peers (YagamiLight)

Zu_faul, Quagmire/Vollkan, Erg0, Sir T/spambot, Panzerjager -1
IH, TS -1
YagamiLight/Elvis_knits -1

End of day 2 vote count:
8: schismatized (Spambot, hasdgfas, Xylthixlm, Panzerjager, TS, schismatized, vollkan, Erg0)
2: TS (IH, Battle Mage)
1: Battle Mage (Flameaxe)
1: Spambot (JordanA24)
1: Zu_Faul (Setael)

Not Voting:YagamiLight, schismatized

Spambot, Panzerjager, TS, vollkan, Erg0 -1
YagamiLight -1

Current scores:
Vollkan -2
Erg0 -2
Spambot -2
Panzerjager -2
TS -2

Zu_faul -1
IH -1
Elvis_knits -1
YagamiLight -1

JordanA24 +0
Flameaxe +0

Conclusion: Not enough data. We need to catch a scum.

[Battle Mage]

not enough data? DGB is that you!? 0.o

[vollkan]

Conclusion: Not enough data. We need to catch a scum

Gosh!

Really

?!Because, you know, I was under the impression that just counting up the number of wagons people had been on was a truly top-notch, fool-proof means of catching scum.

[Battle Mage]

rofl, harsh words Vollkan. In fairness, i wish more people would look at previous wagons in some of my other games. When you get a few days in, it can be really useful to see who has been wagonning frequently, and who has been a little TOO careful with their vote. Because it isnt done alot anymore, i suspect alot of scum fall into the trap of not being concious about it.

BM

[Toaster Strudel]

For the record, I do look at wagons, but I interpret them completely differently. It's not how many wagons a player is on, or how few that matters.

I analyze wagons based on my believe that scum will almost never all pile into a wagon (except in late game when it becomes less risky for them) and that there will always be one or two scum on a wagon (town or scum wagon, no difference). I believe that the scum tends to distribute itself evenly across the on-wagon and off-wagon votes.

It doesn't work unless we have enough dead players to reduce the number of unconfirmed alignment players that are on-wagon and off-wagons.

[elvis_knits]

In my rereading, I learned DGB = TS. Life makes so much more sense now, and I am somehow much less suspicious of her. And BTW, I think TS is right about scum spreading themselves out across early bandwagons and lynches. Sometimes a person who won't commit to early bandwagons and lynches can be very suspicious.

I'm thikning of looking at all the VC bandwagons and posting something about that seeing as I am stuck in my reading.

[Battle Mage]

TS giving advice on avoiding bandwagonning relentlessly?
Why does that seem like the greatest logical fallacy of all!?

BM

[Toaster Strudel]

TS giving advice on avoiding bandwagonning relentlessly?
Why does that seem like the greatest logical fallacy of all!?

BM

BM's reading comprehension test result:

F

[Flameaxe]

TS giving advice on avoiding bandwagonning relentlessly?
Why does that seem like the greatest logical fallacy of all!?

BM

BM's reading comprehension test result:

F

Shocker.

[Battle Mage]

-.-
so this is why Schis went spaz...

[elvis_knits]

BM, have you made up a reason yet?

[Battle Mage]

have u read more than upto page 6 yet? -.-

[elvis_knits]

I've sort of being hopping around, and reading through certain people's posts. So I've been doing a very unthorough job of it, and generally being a bad replacement. I'm finding it hard to find the motivation to read 90 pages. I should do more. I have some vague suspicions that I can post though. I really disliked neo-viper, who became booktty, who became flameaxe. I like flameaxe, but NV really set off my scumdar.

I accept most of TS's play as normal and not necessarily a scumtell. BUT, I did notice that she jumped off k-scope wagon at the last minute, and the next day yelled at sirT and hascow for hammering without letting k-scope claim. But it was deadline, so I don't know why she blamed them. Did she want the town to no-lynch? Did she really think there was time for k-scope to claim? I think the jumping off the wagon at the time was scum trying to not to be blamed for the bad lynch about to come down. What other reason would a pro-town person jump off hte lynch at that point? The only thing it could maybe accomplish is a deadline no-lynch, which is also anti-town.

I will

vote TS

BM, I do want you to "find your reason" for voting zu faul.

[Battle Mage]

i will, in good time. Your vote pleases me. All is forgiven.

[elvis_knits]

unvote

Vote KScope

Wow! Your second post.

An unexplained vote.

Serial Killer much?

I also take this to be a scum slip, calling someone SK rather than just scum. Only mafia can see a distinction like this, especially early in the game.

[Xylthixlm]

Rereading with notes. Since keeping my notes straight between home/work would be hard, I'll just post them here.

--Page 57--
ABR claims mason
TS suspicion on hasdgfas
TS weird post about game name/role distribution
Panzerjager votes TS
Jordan votes SirT, FOS's Quagmire
Setael votes hasdgfas
Erg0 votes Peers
hasdgfas starts tipping his hand role-wise
Erg0 interrogates hasdgfas
--Page 58--
Quagmire votes Bookitty
YagamiLight doesn't understand hasdgfas either
IH FOS's TS
Peers holds his only card a bit too close to his chest
SirT defensive vs Jordan
hasdgfas suspicion on SirT
Erg0 suspicion on SirT
IH prods Peers to give result
ABR prods Peers to give result
Erg0 backs up Peers for not giving result
--Page 59--
Peers makes ABR cry
Erg0's logic makes

me

cry
IH FOS Peers
TS suspicion list (post 1459)
Will vote: Panzerjager, hasdgfas, zu_Faul, SirT, Setael
Won't vote: ABR, Bookitty, Jordan, Erg0
TS supports Peers non-claim
Peers was actually dead all along! And he never revealed his target...
zu_Faul suspicion on TS
TS is ignoring Quagmire
TS suspicion on hasdgfas
ABR asks why Peers died
ABR votes Erg0
Quagmire wagons Bookitty (without stating case)

Work calls. More later.