Mafia 79 - "The Amish Mafia" GAME OVER... WHO WON?

[Celebloki]

/confirm

[Celebloki]

I apologize for being AFK since the game started yesterday? or the day before maybe? I have been slightly busy from school.

I am doing a quick read through then I will post a response.

[Celebloki]

VV has certainly put himself out there and got attention thrown on him, but I have seen other players do the same thing and turn out to be town, He might just be playing a little too Overzealously. I still am FOS on him however. Most of what I'm seeing seems to be page1-2 silliness and I don't feel I can analyze anything too concrete at this time. I am waiting for more conversation.

[Celebloki]

I just don't feel like bandwagoning just yet or placing a random vote on anyone. I'd like to see how the current convo between Surye/VV and all that pans out then make a better assessment.

[Celebloki]

I would say your right on that, Like I stated before I have seen people play overzealously and get noticed heavily, then accrue votes, then be revealed to be town. I am not defending VV at all but as for myself I am not going to claim a side and remain neutral at this time. I just haven't seen any heavily incriminating play yet.

[Celebloki]

I don't see how not wanting to incriminate yourself is necessarily a scum trait when townies don't want to get false incrimination on themselves either.

[Celebloki]

you did not but I felt you were trying to bait me so I clarified.

[Celebloki]

Sorry for my lack of posting and AFK for the past few days. Life has been kicking me int he ass with work, school, and other things. I have finally been able to re-read it and process whats happening.

Turning a random vote into a bandwagon with five or more people on it, no matter the amount of people in the game, always seems reckless to me.

When its what...11 to lynch 5 is practically nothing. I think your being a little to dramatic about this.

And let me explain how a WIFOM would help the town:

You put a WIFOM in front of somebody. WIFOMs, if followed through with, will usually lead to debates as lengthy as the one where we got the term WIFOM from. And, last I checked, long discussions do only one thing in Mafia games: Make the Mafia slip up. If you are a Mafia who is dragged into a WIFOM, you will end up being "poisoned", so to say. If you are a Townie who is dragged into a WIFOM, your lack of slipping up after a few pages of debate, as far as I am concerned, will prove your innocence.

I find it really simple, actually.

This method is heavily flawed, imho its completely possible for a Townie to slip up and make things worse for himself. WIFOM is not good for town, it can be a tactic used by mafia to do the exact same thing to town thatyour saying it does to Mafia. Townies aren't invincible to this just because they are innocent.

I don't like any of your logic so far and it seems your trying to really dig yourself out of a hole more and more.

HOS: ZombieSlayer54

I have a hunch VV is just an overactive player due to his sickness. I will Vote: ValiantValant and when he gets well from his sickness (I'm sick but getting better at the moment) I will maybe think about removing my vote.

I know its been said by everyone else already but where the hell is the logic in this. Is this some sad attempt at bussing?

FOS: Mellowed Man

Right now my suspicions heavily lay on ZombieSlayer54, I think his explanations of what WIFOM is and how overdramatically he attacked others for gettong on the korts bandwagon are attempts to make himself look town and that reeks to me.

Vote: ZombieSlayer54

[Celebloki]

ZS's logic is so backwards, Hes trying to explain how everything he thinks is pro-town when its the exact opposite. He reeks of scum.

[Celebloki]

I apologize for my absence in the past few days, I will do a read-through and post a little later today as I am rather busy at work.

[Celebloki]

After reading through the posts made, including my D1 suspicions when MM was supporting VV about the sickness thing but then still voted him(still makes no sense to me) along with everything that I have seen today I can't not

Vote: Mellowed Man

.

His last 4 posts as well as his one shot vig claim solidified it. He did not even state he thought korts was the scummiest person he saw, he just didn't like how he was going after him. Then the string of almost pity seeking posts he made about his finals was even worse. I think even if he is a one shot vig hes proven to be rather useless to the town. That aside however I believe he reeks of scum or SK as BM has said.

[Celebloki]

i'll put him at l-1 for you. it'll be YOUR choice to lynch him.

This line confuses me, who does it refer to?

[Celebloki]

so we have another waiting game on xyzzy?

[Celebloki]

HOS: Riceballtail

No how about I am dieing to find out what MM is? Already trying to start a BW before we even know what the results of MM is? Or do you know that MM is your scumbuddy and are already starting to influence the next day?

[Celebloki]

I still do not approve of MM's vig of Korts as he really had no good reason to do it besides him being an ass to him. However I believe he may be telling the truth about being a vig. I am going to

Unvote

for now. I still don't like riceballtail's play and I am unsure what to think about Alabaska J right now. I need to do a re-read of the last few pages and try to make sense of things again. I have been skimming the past few days as school has been heating up with finals approaching. I will make a more detailed post soon.

[Celebloki]

Oh wow, that was a long night. Are we in Alaska?

[Celebloki]

What seems interesting to me is that he claimed one-shot before he claimed full vig, so by his own claims he should still have been able to vig last night. I'm sure he had plenty of scummy characters to pick from from the previous day.

[Celebloki]

bah. i hate it when this happens.

When what happens? 2 Week-long night phases and you forget what the hell was happening in this game? Thats what happened to me

[Celebloki]

Oh forgot =p

[Celebloki]

I had my vote on MM yesterday due to his lieing and scumminess. I don't like his role evolution or the unexplained deaths last night. I feel as he has also made it evident he just wants to give up I will place my vote with him.

Vote: Mellowed Man

[Celebloki]

Sorry for my inactivity over the past few days. I have been getting kicked in the nuts by homework in my two summer classes. I will mostly be gone for the rest of this week and can possible post by Friday. I will be posting this in all my games,

[Celebloki]

Hello, I am sorry to do this but I would like to ask for replacement. I have been very busy in life right now and I am gonna pull down my number of games.

Mod: I request replacement