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Post Post #275 (ISO) » Mon Apr 07, 2008 5:19 am

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Or in Random mafia, where he won the game by hammering himself.
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Post Post #276 (ISO) » Mon Apr 07, 2008 5:28 am

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Mastermind of Sin wrote:Um, there was a period of time UA literally self-voted in every game. That would have been about the time he joined the site until...now

with the exception of literally 1 game...
Emphasis added. Your argumentation here is not very persuasive, MoS.

Lloyd made history with his self-voting. I've never even heard of UA's self-voting habit... does he actually do it in ways that affect the game, or just in place of a random vote? A quick survey only shows the latter.
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Post Post #277 (ISO) » Mon Apr 07, 2008 5:51 am

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Mr. Flay wrote:
Mastermind of Sin wrote:Um, there was a period of time UA literally self-voted in every game. That would have been about the time he joined the site until...now

with the exception of literally 1 game...
Emphasis added. Your argumentation here is not very persuasive, MoS.

Lloyd made history with his self-voting. I've never even heard of UA's self-voting habit... does he actually do it in ways that affect the game, or just in place of a random vote? A quick survey only shows the latter.
Agree. UA does self vote every single random voting stage, but never to the point where he is hammering himself and never after random voting stage.
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Post Post #278 (ISO) » Mon Apr 07, 2008 7:37 am

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Mr. Flay wrote:
Mastermind of Sin wrote:Um, there was a period of time UA literally self-voted in every game. That would have been about the time he joined the site until...now

with the exception of literally 1 game...
Emphasis added. Your argumentation here is not very persuasive, MoS.

Lloyd made history with his self-voting. I've never even heard of UA's self-voting habit... does he actually do it in ways that affect the game, or just in place of a random vote? A quick survey only shows the latter.
I've never heard of Lloyd's self-voting habit, so where does that leave us? If the argument hear is that UA shouldn't get the title because you (or Thok) haven't noticed it before, it's pretty weak. The same argument applied to Lloyd for other people. I've been around this site a long time, and I've never noticed Lloyd do any self-voting. But all of that is really beside the point altogether. The argument I'm seeing here is that because Lloyd apparently made self-voting his schtick, UA is
not allowed
to have that schtick as well, even though he came up with it completely independently of Lloyd. I don't really see why Lloyd being a self-voter is at all relevent to UA getting his own completely different title for it, unless Lloyd was nominated for some sort of self-voting title and got refused by the title fairy at the time (something I find unlikely, because there'd be no logical reason to refuse it).
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Post Post #279 (ISO) » Mon Apr 07, 2008 8:07 am

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You don't get it. Lloyd's self-voting
has an actual effect on the game
, and therefore is more significant. UA's self-voting is just a schtick. Plus, yes, seniority has its privileges.

I wasn't arguing that UA didn't deserve the title because I hadn't heard of it; I was trying to collect data,
because
I hadn't heard of it. Then I searched his posts, and saw that it's almost always an initial vote during the "random voting" stage of the game. Not impressed.
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Post Post #280 (ISO) » Mon Apr 07, 2008 12:07 pm

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Nominate Lawrencalot: Mafia Scuum.
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Post Post #281 (ISO) » Mon Apr 07, 2008 1:09 pm

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Mr. Flay wrote:You don't get it. Lloyd's self-voting
has an actual effect on the game
, and therefore is more significant. UA's self-voting is just a schtick. Plus, yes, seniority has its privileges.

I wasn't arguing that UA didn't deserve the title because I hadn't heard of it; I was trying to collect data,
because
I hadn't heard of it. Then I searched his posts, and saw that it's almost always an initial vote during the "random voting" stage of the game. Not impressed.
*shrug*

I've seen it have an effect before.
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Post Post #282 (ISO) » Mon Apr 07, 2008 2:07 pm

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Simenon wrote:
Mastermind of Sin wrote:Lloyd? Since when does Lloyd self-vote? We must hang out in different circles.
I think that's what UA is remembered for.
fixed.[/quote]

Actually, I believe I wrote "I thin that's what Lloyd is remembered for." Because it's the truth.
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Post Post #283 (ISO) » Mon Apr 07, 2008 2:16 pm

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No.
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Post Post #284 (ISO) » Mon Apr 07, 2008 4:31 pm

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Hi,
I'd like to add this link to the UltimaAvalon title discussion. It's from the old title fairy thread.

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 941#941941
Here Lloyd nominates UltimaAvalon for a title based on UA's often self voting.


I guess they played a game together or something and Lloyd chose to post that nomination. Either that or he read a game where UA self voted. I am not sure UA should get "Vote: UltimaAvalon" since it is so simular to Lloyd's title, but either way I think UA still needs a title for his often self voting.
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Post Post #285 (ISO) » Mon Apr 07, 2008 7:53 pm

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I didn't think Lloyd got his title for the Self Voting thing. I thought it was for the Proxy incident.
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Post Post #286 (ISO) » Tue Apr 08, 2008 8:15 am

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Post Post #287 (ISO) » Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:46 pm

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Even Lloyd thinks UA should get a title for his self-voting. What, exactly, is the problem here, then?
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Post Post #288 (ISO) » Wed Apr 09, 2008 2:41 am

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Second/third UA for the self voting one. Dont see what the problem is. Relax. Enjoy life. Have a pepsi.
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Post Post #289 (ISO) » Wed Apr 09, 2008 2:45 am

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Vote: Mr Stoofer
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Problem solved.
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Post Post #290 (ISO) » Wed Apr 09, 2008 2:46 am

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Do you guys even realize that Thok added UA to the first post like a week ago, while you were arguing?

Yeah. It happened.
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Post Post #291 (ISO) » Wed Apr 09, 2008 9:14 am

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Ether wrote:Nominate Rishi for
A meer townie
. (His records imply that he is the anti-IH.)
I know this post is over a month old, but I like this.
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Post Post #292 (ISO) » Wed Apr 09, 2008 9:16 am

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Rishi wrote:
Ether wrote:Nominate Rishi for
A meer townie
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I know this post is over a month old, but I like this.
And, for the record, in my completed games, I've been pro-town 17 times and pro-scum 0 times.
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Post Post #293 (ISO) » Wed Apr 09, 2008 9:23 am

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Rishi wrote:
Rishi wrote:
Ether wrote:Nominate Rishi for
A meer townie
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I know this post is over a month old, but I like this.
And, for the record, in my completed games, I've been pro-town 17 times and pro-scum 0 times.
I'm not sure 17 games is statistically significant. O.o
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Post Post #294 (ISO) » Wed Apr 09, 2008 9:26 am

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Thestatusquo wrote:
Rishi wrote:
Rishi wrote:
Ether wrote:Nominate Rishi for
A meer townie
. (His records imply that he is the anti-IH.)
I know this post is over a month old, but I like this.
And, for the record, in my completed games, I've been pro-town 17 times and pro-scum 0 times.
I'm not sure 17 games is statistically significant. O.o
Aww. If not this, then can I have a title? Please? Pretty please?
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Post Post #295 (ISO) » Wed Apr 09, 2008 9:28 am

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Nominate Mr Stoofer for "Self-Stoofing"
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Post Post #296 (ISO) » Wed Apr 09, 2008 9:48 am

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second Rishi A meer townie
, or mere if you don't like the avatar reference. 17-0 is statistically significant. Don't make me run the numbers.

self-stoofing was hilarity btw
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Post Post #297 (ISO) » Wed Apr 09, 2008 9:54 am

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Post Post #298 (ISO) » Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:17 am

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shaft.ed wrote:
second Rishi A meer townie
, or mere if you don't like the avatar reference. 17-0 is statistically significant. Don't make me run the numbers.

self-stoofing was hilarity btw
This post is funny because it assumes my post was serious.
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Post Post #299 (ISO) » Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:23 am

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Thestatusquo wrote:I'm not sure 17 games is statistically significant. O.o
17 is more then 11. :P

Assuming a 75% chance to be protown (which is probably high), the relevant probability is .7517, which is about 7/1000. Make it 66% chance to be protown, and you get about 1/1000.

That's a surprisingly high probability (I'd have intuitively guess a number off by several magnitudes.)
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