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Post Post #5200 (ISO) » Sat Apr 14, 2018 4:52 am

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Anti-nom Pays the Rent/Now Accepting Dogs
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Sorry. Hate to shoot stuff down :/. Keeping his current title is fine.

1. Titling Ari solely for Relationships thread memes that may not be relevant in a year or so is unfair. See what Davsto and Firebringer said. Reck's title is celebratory -- the proposed Ari title is a direct reference to something he seems to regret.

2. Ari is known to the other non-SE half of the community as the cheerful listmod who responds with smilies and politeness no matter how horrible things get. Mr Blue Sky describes a more well-known aspect of Ari. It's not ideal (IMO) but it's still better.

3. Ari is known to like song references. Mr Blue Sky always had 2 sides to it. Pays The Rent is just a current meme. Keep it in the Speakeasy.

I'm also fundamentally surprised some people who disliked Mr Brightside are now supportive of Pays The Rent?

Why Mr Brightside is a better reference than Pays The Rent:

4. Ari laughed at it when I asked. ENTHUSIASTIC CONSENT, GUYS.

5. It was already proposed a long time ago, and almost prophetically became relevant a year later.

6. Instead of referencing a specific event, Mr Brightside references a general sense of paranoia, which is something Ari has openly admitted to having. This isn't a condemnation or trashing him for something. It's a personality trait, just like "Mulch completely lacks patience", "LLD rages a lot", or "Cooldog is kind of a wanker in many ways".
Yes, it became relevant in Relationships, but as a manifestation of that character trait.

7. And on top of that, Mr Brightside better represents his personality than Pays The Rent (which doesn't describe Ari at all, there's no deeper meaning), and Mr Blue Sky (which is really just being happy in general). Ari CAN get upset, but in a way where he's actively trying to stop himself from getting upset, and it shows. That's Mr Brightside, not Mr Blue Sky.

It hits the triple whammy of Relationships thread, Ari's general demeanour around site, and a real-life personality trait of Ari.
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Post Post #5201 (ISO) » Sat Apr 14, 2018 4:55 am

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In post 5180, TheButtonmen wrote:not many people were around for omans claim or hooplas birthday bug yet because of their titles the stories has been told dozens of times to new groups of scummers and then told by those scummers to even newer scummers

titles are mss living history a part of our oral history that stretches back to before all of us (except ut) were even here
I thought about this, and I actually disagree. I think a lot of titles are about more than just memes. Or if they are, it's something that only became a meme because of that user's personality.

NK Immune Miller Vig was a reference to Oman overcomplicating his claims and strategies in general. When it manifested in that game, people were like "lol, that's so Oman" and THATS why it became a meme.

I support including the relationships thread in the list of things Ari's title covers, but I don't support titling him solely for that thread OVER his current personality-based title.

Mr Blue Sky is more "that's so Ari" while "Pays The Rent" is more "ugh :facepalm: Ari".
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Post Post #5202 (ISO) » Sat Apr 14, 2018 5:19 am

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Buttons what happened to you you used to nom good, non-shitty titles.
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Post Post #5203 (ISO) » Sat Apr 14, 2018 5:23 am

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In post 5200, Mathdino wrote:
Anti-nom Pays the Rent/Now Accepting Dogs
+1 for pretty much the same reasons

No strong feelings either way on Mr Blue Sky vs Mr Brightside
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Post Post #5204 (ISO) » Sat Apr 14, 2018 6:29 am

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Keep Ari's title
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Post Post #5205 (ISO) » Sat Apr 14, 2018 6:37 am

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In post 5202, animorpherv1 wrote:Buttons what happened to you you used to nom good, non-shitty titles.
what if this is all a nefarious plot to make the tf thread actually on topic and active again with serious titling philosophy and nomination discussion

are you all falling for my long con

on that note id like to nom wrath for
The Proletariat
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Fights for Us All
they aint perfect but its a good kick off point

areas to focus on being his communistic crusade against capitalism
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Post Post #5206 (ISO) » Sat Apr 14, 2018 6:51 am

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In post 5205, TheButtonmen wrote:
In post 5202, animorpherv1 wrote:Buttons what happened to you you used to nom good, non-shitty titles.
what if this is all a nefarious plot to make the tf thread actually on topic and active again with serious titling philosophy and nomination discussion

are you all falling for my long con

on that note id like to nom wrath for
The Proletariat
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Fights for Us All
they aint perfect but its a good kick off point

areas to focus on being his communistic crusade against capitalism
Now this I would like a link or two of!
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Post Post #5207 (ISO) » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:01 am

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there's no real links you can get, he just posts world news that agrees with his viewpoint in his 'ministry of truth' thread

also
In post 5202, animorpherv1 wrote:Buttons what happened to you you used to nom good, non-shitty titles.
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Post Post #5208 (ISO) » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:02 am

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Titles based around communism are much more appropriate for gigabyte or her Katyusha alt than Wraith vaguely defending Marxism in the political threads.

Can do better for Wraith than what's basically "Soapbox" methinks.

Edit:. Oh baby
I was unaware of the ministry of truth thread
Definitely anti nomming that one lol
Remember the last time we titled someone partially for their outspoken political views
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Post Post #5209 (ISO) » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:09 am

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In post 5208, Mathdino wrote:Titles based around communism are much more appropriate for gigabyte or her Katyusha alt than Wraith vaguely defending Marxism in the political threads.

Can do better for Wraith than what's basically "Soapbox" methinks.
Wraith has managed to drag the class struggle into more threads then any of them, has been doing it longer and leverages it into far weirder things. He's like the Anix of Communism, this is a title that has been multiple years in the making!

If it was as Vonflare said where he just did it in one thread I'd agree entirely but Wraith's whole thing is that he drags every topic back to this, it's his entire shtick he doesn't do vague defenses he does full-throated ideologizing.
In post 5208, Mathdino wrote:Can do better for Wraith than what's basically "Soapbox" methinks.
Then toss out some suggestions!

That's how this thread is meant to work, it isn't just a collection of people shooting things down until someone suggests the perfect title it's a discussion thread. Nom, spit ball about them, narrow it down and then decide on the best of the lot. If you think someone is taking the title in a direction you don't like then join in. Explain how you think it should play out, it doesn't matter if your suggestion isn't amazing or the perfect title because other people will build on yours, be the change you want to see and all that jazz.
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Post Post #5210 (ISO) » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:10 am

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In post 5208, Mathdino wrote:Titles based around communism are much more appropriate for gigabyte or her Katyusha alt than Wraith vaguely defending Marxism in the political threads.

Can do better for Wraith than what's basically "Soapbox" methinks.
He doesn't vaguely defend. He's steeply versed in leftist history and will break out on into depth at the drop of a hat.
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Post Post #5211 (ISO) » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:12 am

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Yeah except Anix wasn't titled for the things that made him annoying years ago
Or for the gimmicks that he constantly pushes
UCalled represents his contribution to the community and the funny beetlejuicing he always does

See my edit above
Titling someone for political views is very questionable

Edit: that doesn't really sound like something title worthy
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Post Post #5212 (ISO) » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:15 am

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In post 5211, Mathdino wrote:Yeah except Anix wasn't titled for the things that made him annoying years ago
Or for the gimmicks that he constantly pushes
That's just literally factually incorrect? He was literally titled for that, hell he was title twice for it.

Again though toss out some suggestions then don't just use the thread to shit on things, engage. Even if you don't like the Wraith titles then surely you've been here long enough to get a feel for some scummers, something has to have stood out as memorable!
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Post Post #5213 (ISO) » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:18 am

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I did have a suggestion
If we want to come up with clever communist titles, gigabyteTroubadour deserves it much more for actually incorporating it into her mafia personas
I have a bias for titling based on the actual mafia forums yeah
But I don't really think I'm in the wrong on that?
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Post Post #5214 (ISO) » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:19 am

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Then nom her, give us some suggestions to work with or some background!
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Post Post #5215 (ISO) » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:22 am

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I don't have a clever communist title yet
Right now Im just hoping Mulch gets enough noms and discussion between those two options
Sometimes it feels like the non mafia forums have kind of become the old Boys club of mafiascum tbh
Im working on solid titles for well known current players more than speakeasy thread titles
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Post Post #5216 (ISO) » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:22 am

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Post Post #5217 (ISO) » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:27 am

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In post 5215, Mathdino wrote:I don't have a clever communist title yet
Right now Im just hoping Mulch gets enough noms and discussion between those two options
Sometimes it feels like the non mafia forums have kind of become the old Boys club of mafiascum tbh
Im working on solid titles for well known current players more than speakeasy thread titles
maybe because mafia is terrible and people emigrate to the non-mafia parts after having played mafia too much
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Post Post #5218 (ISO) » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:34 am

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If you want a real suggestion for generating discussion (I didn't want to blow up the thread but you asked :P), I think the perfect became the enemy of the good last time this was suggested

Nominate Alisae for 'lolbalance"

No spoiler, no rainbow text, if people want those they can get added on later

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Post Post #5219 (ISO) » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:34 am

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In post 5215, Mathdino wrote:I don't have a clever communist title yet
Right now Im just hoping Mulch gets enough noms and discussion between those two options
Sometimes it feels like the non mafia forums have kind of become the old Boys club of mafiascum tbh
Im working on solid titles for well known current players more than speakeasy thread titles
Mulch's title is accepted and is undergoing the 72 hour waiting period I thought? Any other scummers active on the mafia side stand out? I'm not active enough on it to toss out suggestions but I'd love to see some more people titled for it!

Mcmenno, this thread isn't for shit posting or your attempts to be droll, participate or piss off.
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Post Post #5220 (ISO) » Sat Apr 14, 2018 8:04 am

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In post 5218, Mathdino wrote:If you want a real suggestion for generating discussion (I didn't want to blow up the thread but you asked :P), I think the perfect became the enemy of the good last time this was suggested

Nominate Alisae for 'lolbalance"

No spoiler, no rainbow text, if people want those they can get added on later

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Post Post #5221 (ISO) » Sat Apr 14, 2018 8:08 am

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lolbalance
vs
Balanced?
vs
Balanced


All undercase titles can look off putting but Lolbalance just looks wrong for some reason.
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Post Post #5222 (ISO) » Sat Apr 14, 2018 8:11 am

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the specific wording of "lolbalance" is itself the meme

would be like if spyrex was given "Powerful Wizard!" instead of "POWERFUL WIZARD"

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Post Post #5223 (ISO) » Sat Apr 14, 2018 8:20 am

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RE mathdino's point about titles being heavily focussed on discussion side of the forum
as far as i can tell around a third of psyche's titles have been mafia based. (wisdom, alisae, smith, ffery, RC, anix and creature)
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Post Post #5224 (ISO) » Sat Apr 14, 2018 8:24 am

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People who have been around long enough to know this subforum exists are more likely to have been exposed to the discussion forums where us old fogeys tend to congregate thus more titles tend to come from certain areas like SE or General Discussion.

It would be awesome if we could somehow promote the titling process with the newer crowd but it's not exactly a terribly well advertised or even visible area of the site.
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