Xtoxm: 5 (Machiavellian-Mafia, MichelSableheart, MrBuddyLee, Niv, SensFan)
Machiavellian-Mafia: 2 (NabakovNabakov, PookyTheMagicalBear)
Gaspar: 1 (Thesp)
MrBuddyLee: 1 (Xtoxm)
Niv: 1 (BBMars)
PookyTheMagicalBear: 1 (vollkan)
SensFan: 1 (Rogueben)
Because I just told him to post a list of every game he had been in at the same time as telling him to explain every post.Niv wrote:Ok this should really be obvious, why did you post this?vollkan wrote:EBWOP: "every post you have made" means "every post you have madein this game"...just so you don't get the wrong idea
1: i can't tell you, but this whole senario seams staged to me. i could be just a distraction tactic. but I couldn't tell you why.PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:One)Why would scum decide to stage something like this?>
Two)What do you think a protown player in my position should do instead of what I have done? Since you feel that I am forming a scum link with him, what do you suppose a protown player would've done instead? Argue for why this move is superior to the move I have chosen.
3) How do you expect X to scumhunt? Do you believe he is not making a geniune effort? if so what evidence leads you to conclude this?
Right. In other words, you are declaring Pooky's actions to be suspect, despite supplying absolutely no reasons for that assertion.Niv wrote: 1: i can't tell you, but this whole senario seams staged to me. i could be just a distraction tactic. but I couldn't tell you why.
Bzzt!Niv wrote: 2: possibly do something that looks more genuine, as, yes i understand thatyou are trying to get something out of X, but again itfeelsstaged.
I ditto Pooky's question on this point.Niv wrote: 3: I don't care how X scumhunts, as long it finds scum more often than throwing darts at a dart board. he is not making a geuine effort beacuse he gave up this early at the time he was pushed to -2. and right now it dosent even look like he is paying attention to what people are doiung. he really dosent look like he is trying.
Noniv wrote:For my 89, are you talking about my spelling/typing.
That's the way I always do it. MBL just happened to do it before menn wrote:@FaerieLord: Any particular reason you followed MBL's lead in listing scummy posts?
First accuses it of being staged, but then answers that he has no idea why scum would stage it1: i can't tell you, but this whole senario seams staged to me. i could be just a distraction tactic. but I couldn't tell you why.
Says yet again that it is staged.2: possibly do something that looks more genuine, as, yes i understand thatyou are trying to get something out of X, but again it feels staged.
I partially agree that he could have tried harder here, but please do answer pooky's question.3: I don't care how X scumhunts, as long it finds scum more often than throwing darts at a dart board. he is not making a geuine effort beacuse he gave up this early at the time he was pushed to -2. and right now it dosent even look like he is paying attention to what people are doiung. he really dosent look like he is trying.
If my memory serves me, he asked whether you believed people could be lurking 36 hours into the game. Why is that a silly question?Xtoxm wrote:As my memory serves me, this is an affirmatie response to a silly question from Niv.Xtoxm wrote:Yes
Why exactly is it your intention not to use condorcet?Xtoxm wrote:The first bit explains itself...The second paragraph is in response to you. It refer's to the condorcet voting method. I'm sure you'll agree you were quite harsh in your attack there. I was stating my uncertainty of what it is/does, and my intention not to use it. It just seemed like something I should add.
Why would you accept that it looks like you're going to be lynched? Why not try to change that?Xtoxm wrote:Annoyance about picking up the majority on the vote count, and acceptance that it looks like i'm gonna be lynched. Added a joke about defeating Gorrad. Wasn't really thinking too much about anything else here. Probably posted too quicky, think I was L-4/3 or something.
I believe he is playing very scummily.pooky wrote: Do you believe Niv is scum?
Again, xt is also playing scummilypooky wrote:If you believe so, do you believe Xt is also scum?
I see it that if Niv dies and comes out as scum, Xt's scumminess will go down a bitpooky wrote:How would Niv's scumminess effect Xt's scumminess?
What do you think the odds of Xt and Niv both being scum are?
Elaborate?pooky wrote:We at PRS LLC have noticed a fine streak of strong writing from you, would you lik to join our fine staff on hand? This is a job offer, your starting position would be junior associate with the firm.
Not to sound like a jerk, but this is not a rare thing for Niv.Vollkan wrote:an atrocious post
I'm talking about you. Every question feels ver articulated and forced.PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:One) So you think it looks staged, but you can fthink of no reason why we would stage it?
Two) Do you think i geniunely dont care why he has done what he has done" I'm not quite sure why you think i am being disingenious.
Three) Again you bring up this geniune thing, how do you know he is being disingenious? What causes you to believe this? Do you think that if he were town and fustrated at being wagoned he would not act out the way he has?
I find them grating in a personal sense in that it's plainly frustrating to go back and find the posts and figure out why any one thing might be scummy (I generally consider quoting and pointing to be the responsibility of the person who wants to make a case, not everybody else). I feel there is also a slight effect in which one can list a lot of posts by one player, not explain why that player is scummy, but have an apparently justified vote because so many of that player's posts showed up on your scummy list. (Like you did with Xtoxm and FL almost did). But it's just a feeling.MrBuddyLee wrote:Dear Mr. NabokovMcNabokov,
Why did you take the time to tell everyone that you didn't like my first attempt at scumhunting this game and then not even list me in your list of possible scum? Looks like posturing to me.
What's your reasoning for this statement? Why did you not vote me if you thought I was likely to be scum? Do you think MBL is even more probable than me to be scum?Xtoxm wrote:MM prob is scum.
All my questions also aim to further understand Xtoxm. If Xtoxm had answered them there is definitely a greater than 0% chance that he will be seen less scummier than before, unlike what you depict my questions to be. Your defense of Xtoxm is noted.NN wrote:Pooky's questions deal with understanding Xtoxm's thought processes, which is something we all need to do before coming to a conclusion on whether or not he should be lynched. Your questions were phrased as traps and would have continued the cycle of ignorance that built the Xtoxm bandwagon in the first place. Learn the difference.
Since you imply that your questions for Xtoxm to explain his thought processes is a protown thing to do, wouldn't you say it's also a protown thing forPooky wrote:Two)What do you think a protown player in my position should do instead of what I have done? Since you feel that I am forming a scum link with him, what do you suppose a protown player would've done instead? Argue for why this move is superior to the move I have chosen.
The first question gives Xtoxm a "stance" on MBL when all he had done at that point was call him a lurker prematurely. Did you seriously expect him to answer with a serious analysis of MBL's inscrutable list? A large portion of the posts on Lee's list were Xtoxm's, so I doubt he would have any idea why MBL considered them scummy in the first place let alone be able to defend or comment.Machiavellian-Mafia wrote: 1. Address your stance on MBL now that he has a few more posts with content
2. Address specifically other relative lurkers and if you consider them scummy
3. Address specifically who on your wagon is scum and why