Open 65 - Mini Love (Over!) before 578

[Jex]

P.S. - Happy birthday dahill!

[Albert B. Rampage]

bad conclusion because he is not my lover.

Yet.

Takes time to warm up to me.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Oh and btw guys, I'm not voting / lynching anyone but Sethaniel today, and I will act in self-destructive manners for the town until Sethaniel is lynched.

[Yoshi]

I am very confused as to why Albert wants us to "BUM RUSH" Sethaniel! Surely we would benefit from more discussion, even if you think the case against Seth is great?

I find part of Jex's reasoning for her vote on eldarad unjustified; eldarad disagreeing (and even being wrong, possibly) on theory doesn't make him scum. However, I do somewhat see the hypocrisy, and I'd like eldarad to explain that.

Jex and Albert, first off, why would you explicitly claim you are not lovers of each other? That narrows the field for the scum! Secondly, Albert insinuating lover when Jex and Albert aren't in fact lovers makes me suspicious -- Jex I disagree with:

Overall, good point about him trying to make it look like he's a lover, bad conclusion because he is not my lover.

I find it suspicious that he made this lover connection thing, especially if you are not lovers. Why would he do that then? I also find his call for a quick bandwagon on Sethaniel unwarranted. His recent post, saying he will hurt the town if Seth is not lynched, makes me even more suspicious.

I think more people should vote for Albert!

[Albert B. Rampage]

Ladies and gentlemen, I present you the scum:

Sethaniel
Yoshi

To show you I'm serious, I claim doctor. Now, I expect 2 quick, consecutive lynches of Sethaniel and Yoshi, starting with mr.S.

[eldarad]

This post massively bothers me! If you look at the roles, killing one lover kills the other.

What happens if one lover is lynched, and the other lover survives the night?

Therefore, if we out the lovers then we will either kill 2 town or 1 town and 1 mafia based on which pair we lynch. I do not find this beneficial to the town in any way shape or form.

How is trading one town for one scum not beneficial for the town?

Third thing on this post, you are voting for sethaniel for asking and opinion from ABR yet you are doing the exact same thing. I find this hypocritical.

Please show where I asked ABR who I should vote for.

I never really thought about the fact that he may be trying to make it look that way with his posts.
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Overall, good point about him trying to make it look like he's a lover, bad conclusion because he is not my lover.

erm...how?
Given how you have just said that you think the lovers should stay hidden, why should we believe a thing you say?

[Albert B. Rampage]

elderad is confirmed town. More S lynching plz.

[eldarad]

elderad is confirmed town. More S lynching plz.

why do you discount a jex lynch?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Because I'm not sure about Jex. Sethaniel 99.9999% scum.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'll gladly give myself over in exchange of lynching 2 scumzz

[eldarad]

I'll gladly give myself over in exchange of lynching 2 scumzz

cool. who are the 2 scum?

unvote
vote ABR

[Albert B. Rampage]

Ladies and gentlemen, I present you the scum:

Sethaniel
Yoshi

To show you I'm serious, I claim doctor. Now, I expect 2 quick, consecutive lynches of Sethaniel and Yoshi, starting with mr.S.

[Yoshi]

Albert's recent play is most troubling. I am very hesitant to abide by his wishes and vote for Sethaniel, as I am unconvinced by his arguments that Sethaniel is scum. As far as I can see, he has not proffered any arguments as to why I might be scum.

I see no reason to blindly trust his suspicion of Sethaniel, especially since I know his suspicion of me is unfounded. However, he has claimed doctor. In this setup, if he is not the real doctor, the doctor will counter-claim, and we will know he is lying. Therefore, I will

unvote

him.

I also don't understand why he said eldarad is 'confirmed town', and also don't understand eldarad's vote after Albert has claimed doctor.

Albert's claiming so prematurely seems suboptimal; in any event I am rather befuddled, and must re-read!

[Albert B. Rampage]

There seems to be much you do not understand, young grasshopper. Watch and learn the masters at work.

Now, experienced players, unite! Let's flush these little shithead scumbags out.

[eldarad]

I also don't understand why he said eldarad is 'confirmed town', and also don't understand eldarad's vote after Albert has claimed doctor.

At this moment - right here, right now - do you believe ABR's doc claim?

[Sethaniel]

I expect an apology from ABR when it turns out I'm town.

Actually, no I don't, not given what I've read of his previous play. Or that manifesto on how to catch scum that he posted in the other forum. Let's see. . .

Ignore other players comments if they don't get you closer to lynching your target. It's only half evidence, the other half is accusation. Make it clear that you will never give up until your target is lynched- every day, every post.

That about right, ABR?

I don't really know what gave you the idea that you are a great scum hunter anyway. The (completed) game I read that you played in, the first thing you did was kill the cop because you were sure he was scum.

Your manifesto isn't about how to find scum, it's about how to control the lynch.

I'm not voting / lynching anyone but Sethaniel today, and I will act in self-destructive manners for the town until Sethaniel is lynched.

If that's enough of an argument for people, then I guess I can't win.

Claim vanilla townie, since that's exactly what I am.

[Flameaxe]

I don't really know what gave you the idea that you are a great scum hunter anyway. The (completed) game I read that you played in, the first thing you did was kill the cop because you were sure he was scum.

Hey! I know that game!

[Yoshi]

I also don't understand why he said eldarad is 'confirmed town', and also don't understand eldarad's vote after Albert has claimed doctor.

At this moment - right here, right now - do you believe ABR's doc claim?

I do not think scum would randomly claim doctor day 1, so yes I believe it. In the less likely event that Albert is scum, the real doctor will counter-claim, and I'll vote him again.

Sethaniel, why did you claim? Your claiming makes your more suspicious and more beneficial to be lynched.

[dahill1]

I also don't understand why he said eldarad is 'confirmed town', and also don't understand eldarad's vote after Albert has claimed doctor.

At this moment - right here, right now - do you believe ABR's doc claim?

I do not think scum would randomly claim doctor day 1, so yes I believe it. In the less likely event that Albert is scum, the real doctor will counter-claim, and I'll vote him again.

Sethaniel, why did you claim? Your claiming makes your more suspicious and more beneficial to be lynched.

he's probably just claiming so he can "prove a point" on how much he thinks you and seth are scum

[Albert B. Rampage]

Sethaniel has just given us another reason why he is the best lynch for today. Let's do it people.

[ThAdmiral]

Vote Count:

Sethaniel - 3

(ABR, Farside, Dahill)

ABR - 3

(Flameaxe, Sethaniel, Elderad)

Qman - 1

(Babygirl)

Korts - 1

(Korts)

Elderad - 1

(Jex)

Not Voting -

(Yoshi, Silence)

With 12 alive, it is 7 to lynch

Korts is being replaced by...Korts!

[Korts]

Hey, family matters resolved earlier than I thought, so here I am. Going to post a bit later.

[silence]

To show you I'm serious, I claim doctor. Now, I expect 2 quick, consecutive lynches of Sethaniel and Yoshi, starting with mr.S.

Even if this did show seriousness, why should we believe your accusations correct? A doctor doesn't have any more information than a vanilla townie? And why would a doctor claim unforced and get himself lynched the following night?

[silence]

EBWOP: killed, not 'lynched'

[dahill1]

I also don't understand why he said eldarad is 'confirmed town', and also don't understand eldarad's vote after Albert has claimed doctor.

At this moment - right here, right now - do you believe ABR's doc claim?

I do not think scum would randomly claim doctor day 1, so yes I believe it. In the less likely event that Albert is scum, the real doctor will counter-claim, and I'll vote him again.

Sethaniel, why did you claim? Your claiming makes your more suspicious and more beneficial to be lynched.

he's probably just claiming so he can "prove a point" on how much he thinks you and seth are scum

oops sorry everyone i had thought she was asking ABR why he claimed..but yeah Seth claiming is definitely scummy when he's only at L-4. he had no need to claim right then