Realistic Mafia - Game Over

[Albert B. Rampage]

Why did you kill Sarcastro, Primate ? What's stopping you from killing again tonight ?

[Primate]

I'd prefer for BM to say what he was doing last night before I really go into that. Long story short is that I kind of killed Sarc unintentionally though, if I killed him.

[armlx]

Surye, care to do the corpse searching?

Primate, do not respond to Albert's question about what weaponry you have. I do not like it at all that he's digging for your resources. Heck, I'm not liking him + BM at all right now.

[Albert B. Rampage]

You're skating on thin ice there, monkey-face.

[skitzer]

Sorry for not posting in a whilez.

I thought I would like this sort of game when I first signed up. Now it's become somewhat confusing to me.

I do not like how ABR took all of BM's gun. ABR, you could at least give them to people you trust, so that they may defend themselves.

As for what I'm doing tonight, I don't know. I haven't been assigned a job. I might do something out of curiosity, but I really don't know what that is yet.

[Surye]

I thought I would like this sort of game when I first signed up. Now it's become somewhat confusing to me.

These are mutually exclusive?

I do not like how ABR took all of BM's gun. ABR, you could at least give them to people you trust, so that they may defend themselves.

He gave them to several people, me the mayor included.

Sounds like a re-read might be in order, but this game is moving very fast, it may be better suited for a smaller number of players. Not everyone is a post-fiend like me.

[Celebloki]

Cebloki: Don't tell us not to play Mafia. As far as I'm concerned, the investigation and lynch of Cyberbob was a bonus, something which happened outside of core mafia play (discussing and lynching scummy players). Towns have gotten by without night actions before on just their wits.

When did I say not to play mafia, and that I was against killing cyberbob? I was just stating that ending the night early wouldn't necessarily mean a lot of people would die. Quite obviously, we had several power roles that could have killed. 2 mafias, vigs, and possibly a SK...yet we had 2 deaths. Sure theres a lot of people out there that can cause major trouble at night, but after thinking about it, due to everyone being out and about at night no one will be where anyone suspects.

[skitzer]

Oh, I've been reading, but I don't think I catched everything.

catched...*giggle*

So far, I know Surye claimed, he's the mayor, officers reported him that Cyberbob was agressive, Nab and GW were looking up illegal stuff, and BM had guns. ABR took these guns, all of them, and I now know that he gave them to others. Cyberbob was agressive, so he was lynched.

[armlx]

You're skating on thin ice there, monkey-face.

Albert, I know this attitude is just you, but what this post implies gets us nowhere. If you start gunning down people for disagreeing with you, you become as big a threat to the town as any SK.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Don't push your luck, army boy.

[armlx]

Don't push your luck, army boy.

When people prove my points for me it makes my life so easy.

[Surye]

Are armlx and ABR distancing eachother? I am begining to think ABR is brash by nature, but armlx I am no so sure about. He can't feel honestly threatened yet, not to the level he's defending.

[armlx]

Are armlx and ABR distancing eachother? I am begining to think ABR is brash by nature, but armlx I am no so sure about. He can't feel honestly threatened yet, not to the level he's defending.

I don't trust ABR with guns. I feel his behavior has shown why.

[Surye]

I don't feel anyone can be trusted with guns. But that doesn't mean they are scum, it just means I don't know if they are. Other then possessing guns, what makes him feel like a threat?

[armlx]

I don't feel anyone can be trusted with guns. But that doesn't mean they are scum, it just means I don't know if they are. Other then possessing guns, what makes him feel like a threat?

Thats it. I feel Alfred is just a normal townie who is simply becoming corrupted by the power to kill.

[Surye]

Well, I agree he seems to be more or less town, so lets move our focus to scumhunting again.

[Dasquian]

I didn't see that the N0 death scene had finally been posted, with information about the means of the two deaths. There's a good chance I wasn't the only one - another count against BM. Let me list it out for everyone again:

- Has a load of guns at his house
- Excuses this by being a vigilante, but chose to kill N0
- Also congratulated

scum

for this kill on page 1, before he knew he was going to get implicated when Surye claimed
- Kill subsequently counter-claimed by Primate
- Guns are inconsistent with Sarcastro's flesh wounds caused by a knife

This is really, really straightforward. We lynch Battle Mage now.

Confirm vote: Battle Mage

[Celebloki]

QFT ^ I think BM is starting to look pretty scummy, I'd like to wait to see what he has to say back to primate before I vote but major

FOS: Battle Mage

[Primate]

I don't see a compelling reason why a scum BM would claim a kill that he didn't actually do, knowing that there's someone out there who might be able to counterclaim him. I'm pretty much certain there's something else going on here.

[dahill1]

I'd prefer for BM to say what he was doing last night before I really go into that. Long story short is that I kind of killed Sarc unintentionally though, if I killed him.

i'm waiting on this
also

unvote

for now because i forgot about the whole crub's alignment depends on CB's, and also i want to hear about the BM/Primate situation.

[Dasquian]

I don't see a compelling reason why a scum BM would claim a kill that he didn't actually do, knowing that there's someone out there who might be able to counterclaim him. I'm pretty much certain there's something else going on here.

This is a reasonable statement. Frankly I'm mystified as to why pro-town BM would kill Sarcastro N0

at all

, let alone claim to do it. However, if he was part of the scum-group which kill Sarcastro, he could happily claim the kill as a vig (hence my earlier attention to the lack of a second mafia kill if Sarcastro's death was at the hands of vig-BM).

Your counter-claim throws a spanner in the works, for sure.

[Natirasha]

This will be my last post before leaving for California, and I have a few things to say.

Suyre:
1. I'm sorry for referencing the previous game so much. It seems that they have the thread stored in archives at Px2. When I get back, I will attempt to find it.
2. Do you know which players are the cops? While I do not want you to out them, this may be important later on(claims and such). In addition to this, do you know how many cops there are?


Anyways, people I'm suspicious of right now...
-Battle Mage(I know he's hiding something...)
-Primate(why kill N0?)
-ABR(seriously, I know this is your play, but calm down and think rationally for a moment)

See you Sunday!

[armlx]

Natashira: I actually think its likely that Primate or BM as vig would kill N0, so I'm not that suspicious of that.

[THEORY]
Some people on this site have this ideal that removing a random player from a set up has equal value for both scum and town, and that therefore removing a random player that isn't the vig from the game is in favor of the town (I disagree on the basis that removing a random player is only equal value in a world without scum hunting, which makes an average townie more valuable then the estimated 1/3rd to 3/7ths of a scum in a game and that anti town roles are much more likely to negate the kill).
[/THEORY]

One of the 2 is very clearly lying, and I'm inclined to think BM as, well, why shank someone when you have a 12-gage?

[Primate]

One of the 2 is very clearly lying, and I'm inclined to think BM as, well, why shank someone when you have a 12-gage?

Considering I actually have the information, and

I

don't think this, are you getting some extra information from somewhere or just pulling this out of your ass?

[armlx]

One of the 2 is very clearly lying, and I'm inclined to think BM as, well, why shank someone when you have a 12-gage?

Considering I actually have the information, and

I

don't think this, are you getting some extra information from somewhere or just pulling this out of your ass?

BM seemed pretty resolute in saying he killed Sarcastro, as were you. Unless he wasn't dead yet and was starting to feel much better, I doubt both of you could kill him.

Also, the the knife < shotty argument.