Mini 555 --- LDF Mafia -- Game Over!

[Korts]

I was just waiting on ooba to reply. But since you're here, suspicions of you are not necessarily expressed in votes. You have been attacked by Eljcko, JDodge, and ooba. That's not really a minority seeing the activity in this game.

[SlySly]

But since you're here, suspicions of you are not necessarily expressed in votes. You have been attacked by Eljcko, JDodge, and ooba.

You are the one who incorrectly called me "most voted of the month." I guess you just can't count or don't really pay attention well.

As far as the attackers of me that you pointed out, it really would not surprise me if 2 out of the 3 turned out to be scum.

[Thanatos]

Town tend to attack town just as much as Scum, Sly.

[UltimaAvalon]

Sly, why did you refuse to answer JDodge's question about mayonnaise?

And why have you yet to apologize to Eljcko?

[ooba]

Now my question back is, after disagreeing strongly about UA and korts, why do you have them on your town list? You say nothing else about them in your analysis.

Jdodge had them at the top of his people to kill list. Thats what i disagreed with and thats why i have them in my town list

Unfortunately, I wasted my investigatory skill on MBF last night, who turned up town and dead. Take this however you want to as I will not elaborate.

Half claims do not work . I think its better you claim your role name

Solid point on ooba, still hasn't explained the hammer vote yet.

Please read post 242 (it's also down below on this post)

First, his only suspect is slysly, who has taken quite some flak the last couple pages, and is the most voted person of the month. The rest of the people on his list are either neutral or town, and the way I see it, he might be buddying up to these people.

Buddying up? When i re-read i thought sly was scum and the people in neutral i wasn't sure about either way.

hasdgfas 78: A very weak FOS on Thanatos. Distancing ?

Korts in 88 echoes my above sentiment

Sorry, but I don't see where you said it before me. I'm not echoing you.

Your post 88 was similar to the same thoughts i had when i read 78 ..

I cant see why you all do not believe the claim just because its Vanilla .. If we assume there are only few pro town power roles in the game - I think they'd go more to the others in the foxhound team than the colonel i.e Given a choice between Liquid snake and Colonel Roy Chambell , who would you choose to give a power role to?

Saving and buddying up to lovo, who he knows to be innocent? Or wanting brownie points after the lovo lynch?

Neither. I was commenting on the fact that everyone seemed to think Roy chambell could not be vanilla.

a) I had read other lovo games and he didn't get this flustered while being attacked upon in them - thereby a 'I can't believe you guys are voting me for this reason' type reaction

b) I thought UA had some inside information which he didn't want to share with us from his own role.

Point a) is nothing incriminating. Point b: what inside information would that be, Day 1? If you thought

UA was bussing lovo or deliberately setting up a townie lynch, why didn't you vote him instead of lovo?

There are a few possibilities which come to mind : UA could have been Roy chambell, UA could have had flavor information in his role PM which indicated which roles were probably scum. For the bolded , i never thought UA was bussing or setting lovo up , i thought he was sure lovo was scum from some info he had ..

Unvote, vote: ooba

Bet you didn't see that coming, did you?

No i didn't - would like to hear your reasons for the same ..

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And this is in response to the hammer .. A lot of you think it was scummy to hammer without presenting any case when i did .. What is the use of presenting a case against someone - It is so that they can respond to it and probably try to justify why your attack was wrong. On the other hand , once you hammer , its over - they cannot respond to it and it becomes useless. So posting a case with a hammer vote doesn't fulfill any purpose IMO ..

[SlySly]

Town tend to attack town just as much as Scum, Sly.

Did I say that they didn't?

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Half claims do not work . I think its better you claim your role name

Too bad, scum. I clearly stated that I would not elaborate.

So posting a case with a hammer vote doesn't fulfill any purpose IMO

I'm not sure I have ever seen a scummier statement.

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Sly, why did you refuse to answer JDodge's question about mayonnaise?

Can you please point out where I refused?

And why have you yet to apologize to Eljcko?

I haven't felt the need. The game is not called Last Days of Coddling.

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unvote

vote:ooba

[Korts]

I haven't felt the need. The game is not called Last Days of Coddling.

Well, no, but it isn't Last Days of Up Yours for Suspecting Me either.

Can you please point out where I refused?

You didn't refuse, true. You just ignored it.

So posting a case with a hammer vote doesn't fulfill any purpose IMO

I'm not sure I have ever seen a scummier statement.

I personally think there's logic in there. I mean, if the guy's already hammered, why ask any more questions of him? On the other hand, it doesn't hurt to state your reasons, sure. But that's a null tell, for me.

Also, please don't be an ass, Sly. For me. For our love. I heart you, Sly!

Neither. I was commenting on the fact that everyone seemed to think Roy chambell could not be vanilla.

I cant see why you all do not believe the claim

just because its Vanilla ..

If we assume there are only few pro town power roles

in the game - I think

they'd go more to the others in the foxhound team

than the colonel i.e Given a choice between Liquid snake and Colonel Roy Chambell , who would you choose to give a power role to?

Bolded part. You insist that we believe the claim.
Italic part(s). What I see here: "There are few power roles, and they wouldn't be Colonel Campbell, therefore Campbell is Vanilla"
Actually, I don't see in retrospect what point I was trying to make with this.

Your post 88 was similar to the same thoughts i had when i read 78

But you didn't tell us this thought. Actually, I don't know what point this is meant to be, either.

But the point is still that your list of suspicions boils down to one suspect, and it's the obvious suspect. Everyone else is in the neutral or the town, which, in spite of your explanation, gives me the feeling, as I said before, of you buddying up to these people.

[SlySly]

Well, no, but it isn't Last Days of Up Yours for Suspecting Me either.

Refer to rule 0.

You didn't refuse, true. You just ignored it.

It is amazing how many people in this game are named UA.

I personally think there's logic in there. I mean, if the guy's already hammered, why ask any more questions of him? On the other hand, it doesn't hurt to state your reasons, sure. But that's a null tell, for me.

The hammer is the one vote that needs the most reason. The reason is not for the guy that just got hammered but for the remaining players. If you can't see the logic in this, up yours!!!

Also, please don't be an ass, Sly. For me. For our love. I heart you, Sly!

Do you really want to get me going again? I guess it probably would pick things back up.

[Korts]

Go ahead, then. Up yours, up mine, we're past that. On rule 0: could you be constructive while getting personal? I don't mean now, I mean a couple posts back when all you could say was "Fuck you." Keep up the current ratio of contibution/fuckyous and that's great.

[ooba]

Your post 88 was similar to the same thoughts i had when i read 78

But you didn't tell us this thought. Actually, I don't know what point this is meant to be, either.

Let me try to rephrase what i said .. I essentially did the re-read in serial order ..

When i read post 78 - this was the note i made:

"hasdgfas 78: A very weak FOS on Thanatos. Distancing ?"

And when i read 88 - i saw you had the same opinion about 78. Hence the note:

"Korts in 88 echoes my above sentiment"

But the point is still that your list of suspicions boils down to one suspect, and it's the obvious suspect. Everyone else is in the neutral or the town, which, in spite of your explanation, gives me the feeling, as I said before, of you buddying up to these people.

There is a difference between saying somebody is neutral and somebody is town - if i had put all other 7 players as town and sly as scum , then that is buddying up. Here i'm just not sure about the others - its not a case of not wanting to step on other people's toes by saying 'ok i think he is scummy'.

I personally think there's logic in there. I mean, if the guy's already hammered, why ask any more questions of him? On the other hand, it doesn't hurt to state your reasons, sure. But that's a null tell, for me.

The hammer is the one vote that needs the most reason. The reason is not for the guy that just got hammered but for the remaining players. If you can't see the logic in this, up yours!!!

The reasoning can be given the next day instead of with the hammer vote if players deem it suspicious enough.
The only valid argument against what i do is that it might draw investigative night actions towards myself which would better be directed at scum. However that ties into the Meta of viewing a hammer vote with no reasons as suspicious.

And P.S : I Repeat , Soft claims serve no purpose whatsoever..

[SlySly]

And P.S : I Repeat , Soft claims serve no purpose whatsoever..

Keep on thinking such. My madness is not without method.

[Thanatos]

Can someone point me in the direction of Sly's claim? I must've missed it, somewhere.

Frankly, I'm not sure I always agree with Ooba, but I'm finding him very consistent with himself, which I like.

[SlySly]

He is referring to post 308.

[Sarcastro]

Oh, bloody hell. Am I going to have to prod

all of you

?

[Korts]

Sorry, family matters, asked for replacement.

[ooba]

I'm actually waiting for replies,thoughts from other players .. I've commented on all that has taken place so far and given my views on it ..

[Lloyd]

In reading today, this is what I came away with.

SlySly seems overly defensive.

UA seems daft / overly-casual in his responses, yet he seem certain about lovo14 yesterday.

Between the two of them, I'm more suspicious of UA.

Vote: UltimaAvalon

[JDodge]

UA is always daft/overly-casual.

[ooba]

UA is always daft/overly-casual.

JDodge , you did promise a case on me later?

[JDodge]

UA is always daft/overly-casual.

JDodge , you did promise a case on me later?

Yes.

[SlySly]

SlySly is always overly defensive.

[eljcko]

I am back. Will post on Wendsday.

[Andycyca]

Vote: SlySly

We need to keep things going

[ooba]

Unofficial Vote count

UA(1) - Llyod
Sly(2) - ooba,Andycca
ooba(3) - Korts,Jdodge,Sly

Not Voting : UA,eljcko,eljcko

With 9 alive , its 5 to lynch

Come on guys , deadline is on the 8th !! Talk more - vote more !!

[Sarcastro]

Vote Count:

3 – ooba (Korts, JDodge, SlySly)
2 – SlySly – (ooba, Andycyca)
1 – UltimaAvalon – (Lloyd)

9 Alive, 5 to Lynch