Pikmin Mafia - Game over

[mikeburnfire]

Vote Count!
With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch

1 Gorrad (JDodge)
1 Skitzer (JDodge)
1 Kison (JDodge)
1 Sonickid (JDodge)
Not voting: UROE, Gorrad, Xdaamno, Miztef, JamesThePhox, GhostWriter, skitzer, Shin Hatsubai, UltimaAvalon, PyroDwarf, Kison, armlx, windkirby, Blazerunner, Greasy Spot, sonickid01

[JDodge]

I can post you four cases if anyone feels the need to bitch about me using four votes. There is no reason for anyone to not commit to everyone they find suspicious.

[skitzer]

I would like you to explain your vote on me.

Vote: Shin Hatsubai

for now. Your semi-rolefishing still makes me a little wary...

I might read through and place more votes later.

[JDodge]

See, I told you the low majority lynch wasn't a joke...

"I told you so" is relatively scummy

[skitzer]

I just wanted to clarify that I was correct in my assumption. I feel a more proper use of the "I told you so" scum tell is when someone says, for example, in a game where the doctor just got nked, "See, I told you the doctor was going to get killed!"

[farside22]

I was killed!! BAH!

[Gorrad]

Ooooooh, JDodge, I have a personal Scumtell? I'd like to hear this one.

[JDodge]

Ooooooh, JDodge, I have a personal Scumtell? I'd like to hear this one.

I don't release meta-information on people unless I deem it absolutely necessary to do so.

[JamesThePhox]

Hmm. I actually find the circumstances which Flameaxe and farside died seems to be a bit more helpful.

One was killed by an enemy that can use electricity. And the other was killed by getting "blown off the map" according to the death list on page two.

After looking at the Pikipedia, it seems like these monsters can potentially "blow pikmin off the map": Puffy Blowhog, Withering Blowhog, Man-at-Legs (blow pikmin away by explosives, maybe not so likely).

These can eletrocute: Anode Dweevil, Titan Dweevil, Anode Beetler.

Judging from the fact that there are Purple pikmin, Red pikmin, blue pikmin, and probably yellow pikmin and white pikmin. It is likely that there is an enemy that each pikmin is immune to. Yellow pikmin would've withstood the electricity and purple pikmin might've withstood the "getting blown away". So I believe there is a group of Blowhogs (probably 3) that only one can perform an attack at night (in this case the Puffy Blowhog decided to attack). And there might be a group of Dweevils (probably 2) that can either electrocute or poison (since Blowhogs can't do either) OR one Titan Dweevil (Serial Killer) that can burn, spray water, electrocute, and poison.

So the pikmin town might either be facing two separate enemy groups or one enemy group + an SK with multiple ways to attack.

[windkirby]

Vote: Greasy Spot

for theslip and for laying on the hammer before giving ZS more chance to claim.

My guess is that the purple Pikmin was the Vig. In Pikmin 2, they're the most powerful, and they're certainly the battlers, so it would make sense that they're the most offensive role, which is the Vigilante.

And JD, I don't understand your vote on Gorrad. Go ahead and spill the meta-info. If you're trying to get someone lynched I want to know why.

[Gorrad]

I can post you four cases if anyone feels the need to bitch about me using four votes. There is no reason for anyone to not commit to everyone they find suspicious.

I'm holding you to this, JDodge, only I want to see one of the cases- the one on me.

[JDodge]

Did I say I would post a case on you? No. I said I would post 4 cases - not that they would be on the 4 people I am voting. I have one other person that I find suspicious that I have not voted but still have a case against. And before you say "hypocrite" for the whole "no reason not to commit", it is because my case can go either way to the point that I would really like to not have to even state it.

[windkirby]

I'm guessing your four cases are connected? Fine. But then don't use that as an excuse to not have to explain why you're voting Gorrad. Explain all four cases if you need to, but stop being vague on purpose.

vote: JDodge

Even if it is a waste of your time for you to deal with us mere mortals, I still think you should answer the question instead of skirting around the issue.

[Kison]

Vote : JDodge

because he lied yesterday with one of the sketchiest justifications I've ever seen.

Not to mention Flameaxe seemed to be tailing him.

GhostWriter : Don't think I forgot about that question.

[Gorrad]

Vote: JDodge

. I wanna know my own scumtell, TYVM.

[GhostWriter]

I sure forgot about it... I had to go back and look for it. I voted him because he did nothing more than say that he agreed with you and then hopped wagons. The hopping of wagons was what pushed it to a vote with me, after he had shown a distaste for quick voting. But don't worry. Here's a

Vote: Kison

for you and your two OMGUS votes... today's and yesterday's.

JDodge, I'd like to know what was wrong with Sonickid's post.

[Kison]

I'm not asking why you voted him. I'm asking why you ignored me until I called you out for it.

[Kison]

Also, I would like you to explain why you find my vote to be OMGUS. After all, OMGUS implies that the primary reason I am voting him is

because

he is

voting

me, whereas I think I've extended my reasons suitably far beyond that.

[UnofficialRulerOfEveryone]

Holy shit, UA is my hero.

Alrighty then.

So that's 17 left. Of those, we don't know how many are scum.

I believe that there is definitely, at this point, one mafia group with specifically alligned scums, who all know each other. Otherwise, there would've been more kills, correct? However, I read through and noticed that there were two different deaths. There are two possibilities I see; 1) Mikeburnfire is just messing with us a little or 2) there is some other person, more than likely a vig or a SK. :^P Just stating the obvious here.

Any ideas as to why those two got nightkilled? I'll have to go back through to make a good guess but meh.

This is obviously said post referred to by JD, never ask about why/how/why not kills/night actions/overactive bladders happened in-thread. Especially questioning why it was only these two/not the one you targeted/an annoying idiot that was NK'd. Taking a page out of the late-great Flameaxe's book right now... Are you really trying that hard to find out why your kill did not go through?

Vote: sonickid01

(Sorry for the /'s I needed to get a point across.)

I see nothing wrong with JD's refusal to claim a meta-read on Gorrad, meta is best effective when the other player doesn't know what said meta is. It alarms me more that Gorrad is trying to push this meta out. and the a bandwagon formed quickly behind him.

Vote: Gorrad

Also,

Vote: Shin Hatsubai

for yesterday's "Blatant Role-Asking".

[UnofficialRulerOfEveryone]

Holy shit, UA is my hero.

Alrighty then.

So that's 17 left. Of those, we don't know how many are scum.

I believe that there is definitely, at this point, one mafia group with specifically alligned scums, who all know each other. Otherwise, there would've been more kills, correct? However, I read through and noticed that there were two different deaths. There are two possibilities I see; 1) Mikeburnfire is just messing with us a little or 2) there is some other person, more than likely a vig or a SK. :^P Just stating the obvious here.

Any ideas as to why those two got nightkilled? I'll have to go back through to make a good guess but meh.

This is obviously said post referred to by JD, never ask about why/how/why not kills/night actions/overactive bladders happened in-thread. Especially questioning why it was only these two/not the one you targeted/an annoying idiot that was NK'd. Taking a page out of the late-great Flameaxe's book right now... Are you really trying that hard to find out why your kill did not go through?

Vote: sonickid01

(Sorry for the /'s I needed to get a point across.)

I see nothing wrong with JD's refusal to claim a meta-read on Gorrad, meta is best effective when the other player doesn't know what said meta is. It alarms me more that Gorrad is trying to push this meta out. and the a bandwagon formed quickly behind him.

Vote: Gorrad

Also,

Vote: Shin Hatsubai

for yesterday's "Blatant Role-Asking".

EBWOP: Forgot to ask,
.

MOD: I'm relatively sure we have multiple votes, but can we unvote?

[Gorrad]

Vote: sonickid01

, missed that post earlier.

[JDodge]

Vote : JDodge

because he lied yesterday with one of the sketchiest justifications I've ever seen.

Not to mention Flameaxe seemed to be tailing him.

GhostWriter : Don't think I forgot about that question.

Do you seriously, in this day and age, believe that LAL is a valid meta-strategy? And why is a townie tailing me in any way indicative of my alignment? Unless, of course, you have some reason to believe that BBM was

not

a townie.

And it's not sonickid's trying to get info on the nightkill - that can be a wealth of info that people are afraid to pursue nowadays thanks to it supposedly being a scumtell - it's the manner in which he does it which is scummy.

[GhostWriter]

I ignored you

because

I voted him. The OMGUS vote didn't really phase me, it's that he based a change from one wagon to another on that vote alone. Not other votes, just that one. Also, if your interpretation of OMGUS voting is right, and you're calling one vote OMGUS but not the other, despite the fact that both have reasons listed with them. So that means one of them was a true OMGUS vote, and if one is, why isn't the other?

Jdodge, I read the wrong post, I hadn't looked at the times of those two post and noticed his edit post was slightly earlier than your post voting him for "that post". I assumed it was the one above it.

[Kison]

Kison be less dumb, please.

This would be valid right about now. I saw red on Flameaxe's name and that immediately registered as scum in my mind.

Also, if your interpretation of OMGUS voting is right, and you're calling one vote OMGUS but not the other, despite the fact that both have reasons listed with them.

OMGUS is naughty because it implies the person who is voting is doing so primarily because they're being voted. As long as no-one's done that, then I don't see what your beef is. If my reasons for voting JDodge are acceptable to you then you I am failing to comprehend why you're voting me. So, mind explaining what exactly was wrong with my logic?

Also, I do not understand what "other" vote you're referring to.

JD : Why would LAL be a bad meta-strategy "this day in age?" Also, it's not just the fact you lied, but the

way

you did it(which I already went over yesterday).

[JDodge]

One does not answer a yes or no question with another question.