Enigma Mi Game Thread : Game Over

[Guardian]

Mike O and Greasy are both distractions from scot, the superior wagon. Re-read yos's and my posts for more info, especially the portions in large text. I would in fact suggest reading the portions in large text several times, to better allow them to sink in.

[curiouskarmadog]

it was the way he did it Beep..

first he is pushing one way...

then as a BW develops on Mike(flame?)..he jumps on that wagon, what happened to the yos/scot thing he was so passionate about?

and now, he is voting me...does this pattern of voting look protown to you Beep?

Let me put it this way. GS is still more pro-town than MikeO, a lurker by design and deceit, and not a useful one at that, the few times he showed up.

GS can answer himself. But clearly the Yos vs. scot is going nowhere, and it should get nowhere, because it's too early to have a firm grip on the reliability of the information they have provided.

And I did make a case for voting MikeO, didn't I? Is any player moving away from Yos vs. Scot onto MikeO opportunistic, because I made a case that is sufficiently convincing, backed with supporting evidence?

I find it more strange that you'd declare GS scum over this, and make a decision not to vote MikeO.

I am not voting GS just because of this (remember, my vote was on him before "this")...how do you explain GS's vote of me over Mike?..

[Beep! Beep!]

I am not voting GS just because of this (remember, my vote was on him before "this")...how do you explain GS's vote of me over Mike?..

You can't accuse him of being opportunistic with that vote.

OMGUS perhaps? Ask him.

[Yosarian2]

GS can answer himself. But clearly the Yos vs. scot is going nowhere, and it should get nowhere, because it's too early to have a firm grip on the reliability of the information they have provided.

Eh? What makes you think the information isn't reliable?

I'm all in favor of lurkerwagons, and GS has been acting oddly, but I think it's pretty clear that the move for today is to lynch Scot, the guy who seems to be lying scum here. Not only do we get rid of a scum that way, but considering how pretty much everyone has commented on the scot issue in ways with differing amounts of logic, I really think proving Scot's alignment will make a lot of other people's alignment pretty clear here.

[Beep! Beep!]

Actually I think that both your information, and that of scotmany12, may be reliable. It is, more precisely, our intrepertation of said results that cannot be relied upon, so early in a complex game.

[Beep! Beep!]

I should add that MikeO is not an ordinary lurker, since evidence shows without the shadow of a doubt that his intense and prolonged lurking is by design, not by accident.

[Norinel]

Hmm. Just finished my reread, and I may as well start with my position on the Scot thing, because I like that kind of intrigue.

Definitely not as entirely deadset on Y2's info now that I've read the additional stuff that came out Page 9. (Skitzer sabotaging the car, and Y2 claiming to have seen Scot hit her in the head, not kill her) In fact, I do sort of read backtracking in this series of bits of Y2's posts:

The investigative results spececifically say I personally saw my father, Scot, kill Marissa.

That's interesting, because I specifically saw Scot strike her on the head.

On the other hand, there's no reason that Scot wouldn't know about a significant game event that happened during Night 0, and he's still really splitting hairs, so I want a yes or no answer from Scot to these two questions:

1) Did you, based on the information you have, have any interaction with Marissa Night 0?
2) Did you strike her in the head at that point?

But still, the line must be drawn clearly between flavor and nightgame information, and I think the opinion I gave in my last post is the only reasonable one before complicating factors came out explicitly. So I think there's some cause for suspicion towards people that were too suspicious originally; I think undo was the first to start confounding flavor with Y2's info, around post 136.

Of course, I don't think anyone who's been trying to dissuade the Scot bandwagon is scum; there are probably some town that figure there's something better to go on, or got confused, or whatever. But there's some scumhunting we can do based on it, especially if we find out Scot's alignment. And I don't think scot's response is reasonable, unless he's still clinging to some information he hasn't given us yet. So I'll go with a

vote: Scotmany

for now.

And here's an exchange I think is really interesting from back on page 3, well before Y2'd let on that he knew anything:

Perhaps maybe we can discuss the information we all know are facts; such as the 3 murders that occured last night.

@FrankyPeanuts: Those deaths, I believe, are just flavor wise. I do not know if they will have any importance to the game, but I don't think we can gain any info from them.

I'm not sure whether that's more of town misspeculating or scum trying preemptively to throw us off the scent.

[scotmany12]

1)No
2)No

[neko2086]

Considering putting my vote back on Mike. His reappearance is not very impressive. Starts with a hypocritical attack on Greasy, and continues to respond to criticism with sarcasm.

Also considering putting my vote back on Scot. It does seem strange that he wouldn't have been informed of his actions. I'm still worried that we don't have all the info we need.

I don't think there's a viable third alternative at this point, though. I think we'll have to make a decision between these two, but first, it'd be nice to hear from everyone. Several people need prods, I think.

[curiouskarmadog]

ugh, I am fine with a mike or greasy lynch at this point

[Guardian]

Apparently we have a deadline in 6 days from now.

In order to prevent a suboptimal lynch:

Mike O and Greasy are both distractions from scot, the superior wagon.

Re-read yos's and my posts for more info, especially the portions in large text

. I would in fact suggest reading the portions in large text several times, to better allow them to sink in.

[ooba]

Apparently we have a deadline in 6 days from now.

In order to prevent a suboptimal lynch:

Mike O and Greasy are both distractions from scot, the superior wagon.

Re-read yos's and my posts for more info, especially the portions in large text

. I would in fact suggest reading the portions in large text several times, to better allow them to sink in.

I did not know a deadline was this close.

Mod :

Could you update the title so that the deadline is displayed?

I shall re-read this game today and get back to you with my thoughts ..

[Skruffs]

The Day's Fifth Vote Count!

Just a reminder,

scratched out

meanas it was unvoted since the last offical vote count, and

bolded

means it is a new vote since hte last vote count! So the

bolded, scratched out

votes are votes that were added and removed since the last vote count.

Also:

FrankyPeanuts

=>

Norinel

scotmany12 (5) - (creampuffeater,

Mike O' Malley

Yosarian2, Guardian,

Killa Seven,

Greasy Spot

, Norinel

)

Mike O Malley (4) - (The Goat,

The Jester, Beep! Beep!

, ooba,

neko2086

,

Beep! Beep!, The Jester,

Greasy Spot

)

Greasy Spot (1) - (

Beep! Beep!

, curiouskarmadog,

The Jester

,

Mike O' Malley

)
The Jester (1) - (undo)
Undo (1) -(Imat)
Beep! Beep! (1) -(

Mike O' Malley

)
curiouskarmadog -1- (

Greasy Spot

)

The Goat (0) - (

Rosso Carne

)
Yosarian2 (0) -(

Greasy Spot

)
Killa Seven (0) - (

curiouskarmadog

)

Not Voting (5): (skitzer, scotmany12, Rosso Carne, neko2086)

If <6 players != posted < 3 days THEN Deadline = Five days!

[Skruffs]

Eight players:
Rosso Carne, Undo, Mike O'Malley, Imat, skitzer, Killa Seven, The Goat, and Creampuffeater, have not posted in the last three days. (Rosso Carne was the most recent to post, and that was Friday).

Inasmuch, the four worse offenders have been prodded, and the deadline is now set in stone. You have FIVE days! At deadline, if a player has a majority of actual votes (IE their votes/all votes of players voting >50%) then they will be lynched. Otherwise, they won't be.

[killa seven]

im pretty happy with my vote

[Yosarian2]

So, we need a majority of active votes at deadline to lynch. Right now, there are 14 active votes, so we need 8 votes on someone before deadline, or it's a no lynch.

I still think it's pretty clear Scot is the correct choice here, that's both more likely to give us a scum and will give us more information then any other lynch I can see.

One other point: if you're the only person voting for someone, you are making it harder for the town to lynch at this point because you're increasing the number of "active" votes. If you're really convinced your vote is right, then you need to make a case for it; otherwise, you need to at least unvote that person, otherwise all you're doing is increasing the odds of a no-lynch.

[scotmany12]

Honestly, at this point, I think we should lynch me today, so you all can move on tomorrow. I can see almost anyone on my wagon being scum, with the exception of yos. Top suspects on my wagon would be ks and guardian at this point.

[Beep! Beep!]

I won't be voting for scot today because I don't believe he should be lynched at all.

[Rosso Carne]

vote beep!

I feel he's accomplished nothing.

[Beep! Beep!]

@ Rosso Carne:

Fact.

Excluding your confirmation post, you have posted eleven times in this thread, totaling 126 words. That's a average of a little over 11 words per post.

[skitzer]

I feel that, because most of everything we've gone on this first day has been based on flavor, but since yos had a choice that pointed out scotmany as bad, which is solid evidence, it makes good sense to

vote: scotmany12

[Rosso Carne]

@ Rosso Carne:

Fact.

Excluding your confirmation post, you have posted eleven times in this thread, totaling 126 words. That's a average of a little over 11 words per post.

at least ive had content.

[scotmany12]

@ Rosso Carne:

Fact.

Excluding your confirmation post, you have posted eleven times in this thread, totaling 126 words. That's a average of a little over 11 words per post.

at least ive had content.

Um, no you haven't...

[Rosso Carne]

@ Rosso Carne:

Fact.

Excluding your confirmation post, you have posted eleven times in this thread, totaling 126 words. That's a average of a little over 11 words per post.

at least ive had content.

Um, no you haven't...

yes i have

[scotmany12]

Where then, cause I don't see any.