California Trilogy - Going to San Francisco (Game Over!)

[Mr. Grey]

Vote Count:

8 to lynch.

FaerieLord: 1 (Niv)
Machiavellian-Mafia: 1 (NabakovNabakov)
NabakovNabakov: 1 (Rogueben)
Niv: 1 (FaerieLord)
PookyTheMagicalBear: 1 (vollkan)
Rogueben: 1 (MrBuddyLee)
vollkan: 1 (Gaspar)

[vollkan]

Is it possible for anyone on your list to reach 100% then come back down?

Only when they are Pooky and it is this early on.

(For 100%, we are talking absolute certainty; which is rarely ever reached)

@volkan: On number 3: So we should give reasons not to live in fear that you will degrade us in your opinion. A townie's aim isn't to stay alive. A townie's aim is to find scum. Even if it means it is at the expense of themselves.\

I am capable of dealing with situations where reasons are not given. I am not codifying that, because it is too in-depth, circumstance-dependent, and doing so

would

give away important information.

On number 9: If you make a mistake, we should ignore them because you still might be town...nice.

Nope. I don't mean that. What I mean is that meta is a valid factor, and should not be dismissed as invalid from the get-go.

[BBMars]

Interesting. There's people missing. This seem interesting. Knowing mith those people probably weren't chosen at random. At least it gives us something to talk about.

So my spell checker won't break:

Vote: Niv

[Rogueben]

Well it appears that the missing people can't be voted for. I don't think there is any benefit from talking about whether they were picked to be missing at random. Setup discussion like that at this stage on day one is going to be speculating at best.

I do think that Vollkan's list offers him far too many cases where he can say "look at the list on page 2, I said I would do this."

@Vollkan - If you use your list to excuse scummy play later in the game, expect my vote.

[Xtoxm]

It does seem that way, the post directly after mine and it wasn't counted.

Dammit, I am unable to lynch Gorrad to while he's away and unable to defend himself. I shall have to be a bit more cunning and come up with a new masterplan!

[FaerieLord]

@Rogueben. That's what I felt too, but no harm done with it up until now, so ok.

Also, since we have gone out of the random vote stage quite quicky,

Unvote

[MichelSableheart]

Well of course I can't get reactions from CKD, but I just got a reaction from you didn't I?

True. I still believe you would get more reactions by bandwagoning people who are actually there though.

Now, to test if bolding someone lower on my list will actually place my vote there:

Unvote

Vote:

Machiavellian-Mafia,

Xtoxm

, {everyone else}, {curiouskarmadog, Gorrad, IH, Nibbler Twins, OhGodMyLife, Sarcastro}, No Lynch, MichelSableheart

[Mr. Grey]

You are allowed to vote for any player, regardless of their placement in your preference list. Likewise, you are free to post a preference list without voting for anyone.

[Niv]

UnVote.

[SensFan]

Sorry, forgot to add to my Watched Topics.

At school now, will make a significant post when I get home tonight.

[Xtoxm]

Presumably, we will be lynching someone present...So Gorrad will have to wait until tonight...uhm...Tomorrow, that is.

Well i'm going to vote for MBL for lurking, he has only posted once, and all it was was a lone vote, possibly random.

unvote vote MBL

[Machiavellian-Mafia]

Now that the missing players vote test results are in, I will switch my vote to...

Well i'm going to vote for MBL for lurking, he has only posted once, and all it was was a lone vote, possibly random.

Xtoxm...For starting your lurker hunt

less than 36 hours

after the start of Day 1 and focusing on MBL while failing to mention SensFan(1 D1 post with no content) and Pooky(0 D1 posts).

• Unvote, Vote: Xtoxm
  
  
• {BBMars, FaerieLord, Gaspar, MichelSableheart, MrBuddyLee, NabakovNabakov, Niv, PookyTheMagicalBear, Rogueben, SensFan, Thesp, vollkan}
  
• No Lynch
  
• {curiouskarmadog, Gorrad, IH, Nibbler Twins, OhGodMyLife, Sarcastro}
  
• MM

[vollkan]

Presumably, we will be lynching someone present...So Gorrad will have to wait until tonight...uhm...Tomorrow, that is.

Well i'm going to vote for MBL for lurking, he has only posted once, and all it was was a lone vote, possibly random.

unvote vote MBL

I am curious to know your reasoning here. Other players have only made 1 game post - Thesp and Pooky to name two. Moreover, what is the rationale for your vote?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I am not going to do some stupid list, I think it's a total waste of time, I think you guys should man up and lynch somebody instead of using some BS list that leads to all sorts of useless shit later.

I hate lists, I hate condorcet, I haven't even read what our list voting rules are, but if they're condorcet I hate them and if they're not I still hate them.

Seriously people, this is Mafia, just lynch somebody, this scientific listy mumbo jumbo is great if everybody understood exactly how it workedll, but I honestly don't expect everyone to do so.

So just stop.

And vote Mach-Mafia.

It will make you so happy when he turns up scum.

It really will.

You want to be happy don't you?

vote Machiavellian-Mafia

[Niv]

Presumably, we will be lynching someone present...So Gorrad will have to wait until tonight...uhm...Tomorrow, that is.

Well i'm going to vote for MBL for lurking, he has only posted once, and all it was was a lone vote, possibly random.

unvote vote MBL

Um, yah, what the hell are you doing here. it makes little to no sence to be lurker hunting right now. infact i don't fnind it to make any sence at all. please dude, save this till at least day 2. please.

Also, just got back from bruce springsteen, man it was awsome, i seriousally reccomend you all check out his latest CD (magic) if you get the chance.

Also, Just should probally state this. i read over concordent and dislike it. will not be list using unless absol. nessarry. we can get a lynch by deadline, were not 3 toed sloths here

Vote X

[MrBuddyLee]

@Rogueben. That's what I felt too, but no harm done with it up until now, so ok.

Also, since we have gone out of the random vote stage quite quicky,

Unvote

Don't be such a girl. Take that big pink ribbon off your eyes.

Xtoxm also deserves notice for playing as if lurkers won't get replaced.

Niv for using the words hell, fnind, please and please in a two sentence paragraph.

vote niv

, Rogueben, faerielord, xtoxm

[SensFan]

Vote:

Machiavellian-Mafia,

Xtoxm

, {everyone else}, {curiouskarmadog, Gorrad, IH, Nibbler Twins, OhGodMyLife, Sarcastro}, No Lynch, MichelSableheart

No Lynch should be at the bottom of your list. Period.

Vote: MichelSableheart

[Rogueben]

@SensFan - No one should vote themselves before No Lynch. As a townie you know you are innocent so voting yourself is bad play. Even more so for power roles.

Also why do you call him out on this when NabakovNabakov and Machavelian Mafia do it too.

In fact I think this warrants an

Unvote, Vote: SensFan

.

[Xtoxm]

Presumably, we will be lynching someone present...So Gorrad will have to wait until tonight...uhm...Tomorrow, that is.

Well i'm going to vote for MBL for lurking, he has only posted once, and all it was was a lone vote, possibly random.

unvote vote MBL

I am curious to know your reasoning here. Other players have only made 1 game post - Thesp and Pooky to name two. Moreover, what is the rationale for your vote?

I didn't notice them.

I don't like lurkers, and I generally find they are scum so lynching them is good play, imo...

[SensFan]

@SensFan - No one should vote themselves before No Lynch. As a townie you know you are innocent so voting yourself is bad play. Even more so for power roles.

I think that an innocent lynch is better than a No Lynch, to be honest.

Also why do you call him out on this when NabakovNabakov and Machavelian Mafia do it too.

Oh, obviously cause those two are my scumbuddies. It can't possibly be as simple as the fact that Michel did it near the top of the last page...

In fact I think this warrants an

Unvote, Vote: SensFan

.

Meh, whatever.

[Niv]

I don't like lurkers, and I generally find they are scum so lynching them is good play, imo...

You really think it is possible to call someone a lurker on page 4. wow

[Xtoxm]

Yes.

[Gaspar]

I am not going to do some stupid list, I think it's a total waste of time, I think you guys should man up and lynch somebody instead of using some BS list that leads to all sorts of useless shit later.

I hate lists, I hate condorcet, I haven't even read what our list voting rules are, but if they're condorcet I hate them and if they're not I still hate them.

Seriously people, this is Mafia, just lynch somebody, this scientific listy mumbo jumbo is great if everybody understood exactly how it workedll, but I honestly don't expect everyone to do so.

Hi, why are you being dumb?

So just stop.

This is probably :badposting:

Yes.

This is probably :goodposting:

@SensFan - No one should vote themselves before No Lynch. As a townie you know you are innocent so voting yourself is bad play. Even more so for power roles.

Also why do you call him out on this when NabakovNabakov and Machavelian Mafia do it too.

In fact I think this warrants an
Unvote, Vote: SensFan.

FoS

This is very

FoS

Pooky is obv protown, but probably needs to stop acting like a village idiot.
MBL is obviously pretty darned scummy.
Rogueben is almost certainly scum.
Vollkan still needs to die posthaste.

Guys, I think we're off to a pretty good start. :):)

[Xtoxm]

Heh heh, just realised what pooky was on about...I originally thought he meant lists as is a list of what your opinion of every player is.

Think you're being a bit overly agressive, but I don't really get what it's about either, I don't have any intention of using it, i'm just gonna vote normally.

And thanks Gaspar

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Bah.

I will clarify my position

I am NOT against players using lists.

I am NOT against players submitting Condorcets.

I am AGAINST players relying on a Condorcet count to provide the lynch.

I think we're better off lynching with the standard majority.

The reason I believe this is because I don't trust every player in this game to understand how condorcet works.

and I think it's easier for scum to manipulate a condo lynch than a normal majority lynch.