Micro 1089: the coalition, again [scum PT]
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skitter i dont think im going to make things very easy for you
just as a warning-
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and of course as an apology in advance-
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if I start begging to get limmed feel free to spray me with water-
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ok well i need to warn you that im going to start with an absolute bomb of a post that is going to be so exceptionally bad-
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if anyone asks tell them i am giving the game the Silent Treatment.
and if anyone asks how i was able to tell you that uh....... idk i trust you to figure it out-
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o skitz..... at some point i really gotta just come clean and tell these people that im mafia because other wise theyre never gonna town read me for a shitpost ever again....-
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drafting a joke for me to whip out later:
some town person wrote:ok hellbooks i think you are super scummy for this, this, and this. what say you.me wrote:uhhh.. hold on@mod vla for 4 hours while i frantically think up a response to that question-
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skitz if i were to somehow come up with an extremely bad plan that no good scum player who values their life would ever go along with, would you ever consider going along with it for wifom purposes (no plan yet but i wanna know if its an avenue worth pursuing for the future)-
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Looks like the bad plan is me voting you. Didnt even fully mean to it just kinda slipped out. ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ-
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yeah im vaguely thinking that i get into the coalition and then sort of flame out grandiosely while taking out a lot of them with me along the way and then you go and deepwolf with the rest of them ftw-
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im definitely not nearly as much of a lock as one might hope; i think people tend to tire of me as soon as the game gets more argument-dense. but i agree about being chill as per step 1 of hellbooks' guide to playing scum: the only guide you'll ever need-
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maybe we should also be wary of this rather accurate line of logic popping upIn post 470, fireisredsir wrote: one team that popped into my head was skitter/tris bc i think skitter seeming somewhat resigned to being outside was surprising to me. i think she wouldn't do that as scum with very many people though but if it was anyone i think it would be if she was with a consensus townread? i don't really actively scumread either of these tho-
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I might be openly scumclaiming with you a little bit but I hope you dont worry too much about it. Youre free to worry about it ofc in which case um sorry-
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One might think i'm alluding to the v/la joke when i said "I am thinking about them in the shower and before bed and like drafting them in my scum pts and such" but what its actually mpre about is the 4 drafts of the libraryverse opening post that i still have littering this pt-
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Yeah i was thinking at exactly this moment that you should be bussing me-
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Gonna sink into the darkness and let you shiningly be persephone for a while-
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In my absence you should say something like "man it must be so humiliating for hellbooks to have to go and transcribe that post in her monastery" and when isis is like "whoa why did that sound like a hellbooks post is she coaching you" well ill leave you to figure out the response-
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people reading the scum pt in postgame "oh so she really is just like this all the time"-
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I personally think the shift in my posting has less to do with being scumread and more with me running out of my medication and my pharmacy being late on refill but I'm going to choose not to say that because it seems unfairly manipulative and also maybe the haters are correctly identifying some element of my subconscious that I don't know about-
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Thx : ) gonna go back tomorrow to bother them again-
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yeahp. : ) well it might mean i have to endgame and maybe you might want to rest assured that i'll lose one of those. and i did not and it seems like i might not be able to until at least monday. eff the pharmacy.... so yea earlier today i had the thought that maybe i should ask you whether or not youd like me to replace out. i was worried that my continued lack of being able to get meds and also general pain and listlessness would possibly portend a future period of ill or maybe just not-so-great health. but im doing better tonight and i think i'll keep toughing it out : )-
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thinkign about how this was my favorite post i made this game and no one reacted to it at all (sorry skitter as the person with sole access to my "behidn the scenes" (omg bts reference) brain youre bearing the full brunt of my Needy Side)In post 765, hellbooks wrote:
Experienced a shocking and brilliant twinge of melancholy from this, lets just like ruminate on all the ways we're doomed to misunderstand each other and how text mafia inherently brings that part of human interaction to the forefrontIn post 735, fireisredsir wrote:
my takeaway from the extended exchange was that shea scumread a different aspect of the post than the part that tris townread and neither of them really were about the post as a wholeIn post 724, Isis wrote: The thing about 138 is that the post tris towneead is either town lamist or scum lamist and Shea said itt he doesn't play lamist
o skitter..... will i ever stop having to apologize to you....
this was my second favorite post i made this game so farIn post 151, hellbooks wrote:
YOOO This is such a good idea and maybe they could perform some kind of group activity that frames the way that votes are made? like perhaps we can give them all some sort of "role" and these roles can all kind of be like.... "investigative" but in subtly different ways? idk just a thoughtIn post 147, fireisredsir wrote: what if we all decide on a coalition as usual but don't actually submit it, and then we let the people in the coalition vote amongst themselves for one player who they think shouldn't be in the coalition, and one they think should be, and we make the swap. or alternatively they vote for no swap
NO WAIT HOW BOUT THIS HOW BOUT THIS ok so lets say we make a coalition and then datisi reveals one member who is not part of the coalition and then we choose to swap or not to swap and maybe goats are involved somehow? idk just a thought
as a final bit of directors commentary i was really happy at being able to reference the bleeding guggenheim robot because thats something ive kind of wanted to do in some form of post or tweet or real life conversation for at least eleven months. and this suddenly came to mind when i was making this post at the time and i was like oh yeah i gotta put that in there which maybe makes it come out a little forcedIn post 756, hellbooks wrote: Or you could wait and pressure me until my true nature eventually blossoms forth, leaking game relevant (?) words like the bleeding guggenheim tiktok robot-
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so i just had the thought that it would be funny to advance the idea that your posting is generally so good as to merit monks that go and transcribe it into copies like they did with important books before the printing press. and it was also a follow up on the idea of doing frivolous v/la. and it led into this other thing that amused me where you and i cant be in the thread at the same time in like a tragic tale of eternal separation by some sort of heavenly mandate. obviously i did a poor job at communicating the full idea of any of this bc it was, as are basically all of my posts, a self indulgent and navel gazing exerciseIn post 30, skitter30 wrote: i really don't get the transcribing thing lol
and yeah since it seems like i might (?) be getting in and te thread is souring on you a bit it's prudent to do the distancing thing
also i am also easily tempted into being a little pestful and annoying to you in the game thread (like when i was needling you into using my avatar etc etc) which i think has much less to do with being scumpartners and more like "ok i see a really cool and self-assured person in the distance so lets go and be a little annoying to them" i guess im kind of imagining how people go in front of the buckingham palace guards and try to make them laugh except what im doing is actually more normaler and less weirder than that i swear-
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sorry my hand kind of took control of me and made this post i was like a woman possessedIn post 1835, hellbooks wrote:
ok what is so salient about this is that i absolutely would tell my scum partner to make quips on my behalf in the scum ptIn post 1834, Isis wrote: She suggested the last bit in the scum pt-
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i promise that me bussing you was a next level tactic to engage fire into going back and solidifying their own townread on you as they try to explain it to me-
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I find myself being unusually offended by this even though I can definitely see how it's very easy for someone to always take me at face value as an "Irrational Actor"In post 1836, Thestatusquo wrote: I think this post gives hellbooks more credit for "having a plan" than she usually does.-
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Just feels weirdly belittling I guess-
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I think one of the best route here is if we both make it into the coal -> I get blasted -> town is steered easily into the conclusion that i kind of sacrificed my longterm equity to get myself into the coal because scum was on the outside looking in -> they hunt around in the fun car and get jack for shit and hopefully by then its winnable
Any strategy has to account for the fact that my standing here is really in the dumps
Also im doing like such a bad job at distancing from you, sorry-
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well it looked for a few minutes yesterday that i was somehow maybe gonna snake my way into the coal but i didnt really have the energy to capitalize on that momentum. i guess ill try and do what i can to salvage my reputation but i think that might simply be a task im impossibly behind on. well i guess there was that thing about "if you snow only one person..." and i guess that person is tris for me. i really do think i should have repped out when i did tbh, got so mad at shea being like "hellbooks is lurking" despite the fact that he kind of doesnt know about my health situation (by design so i think thats just me being self destructive behavior)-
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yea im hoping that we just make it to a clean d3 win off of the back of your carry performance-
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they should extend the sig limit so that you can get like your full hall of fame-
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isis might be limmable if it goes past d3, though-
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i think ill end up voting ari at some point-
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calling out this post as not only rude but also wrong and misreading what tris is sayingIn post 2869, brassherald wrote:
Fire and me is literally impossible can you like think for 30 seconds?In post 2851, tris wrote: i dont think i said i didnt like this coalition. but obv it was wrong. sheep is the easy answer. i hope its scum outside the coalition. i dont think hellbooks is it. im kinda feeling isis town because she's pocketting me. so i guess that leaves fire and brass if its outside the coal-
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I havent read yet but you definitely arent ruining anything!!!!!dont worry!!!-
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Continuing to just be confident that you wont flip today but if you do,ill do all of the things you tell me to do but im also going to try and not make a visible effort to win the game. i think im just gonna keep screwing around and hope people let me stick around until the end. to maintain the thin veneer of authenticity that i have-
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definitely just a cold move for me to continue to be voting you and also wrong and bad because im literally going to get less than 2/3 of a townpoint for doing it-
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i hope you can take care of yourself!!! dont worry about the game at all!!! real life always most important!-
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up until now i was continuing to be confident that the lim would be tris
if we lose please let me take like all of the credit for the loss-
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Self fulfilling prophecyIn post 12, hellbooks wrote: skitz if i were to somehow come up with an extremely bad plan that no good scum player who values their life would ever go along with, would you ever consider going along with it for wifom purposes (no plan yet but i wanna know if its an avenue worth pursuing for the future)-
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Skitz is shea lock for nk or is there room to wickedly consider like an isis shot-
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made a post in order to really cement thisIn post 73, hellbooks wrote: if we lose please let me take like all of the credit for the loss-
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ily skitter and sorry for everyothing-
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i kill shea-
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if it werent for skitters direction id have considered nk isis for wifom and also so i can rulebreakingly say "im scum >:)" in seattle (joke)-
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stratiegy matrix: d2 fire -> n2 isis -> d3 brass i guess, then me and two of tris/ari/sheep can just hang out in an ELO torture lobby for a bit where i just try and be as unhelpful as possible-
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drafting another evil stinky ate post to use if it becomes relevant in the future which would be something likei guess the worst thing about the world where skitter and i are scum together here would be that skitter would literally blacklist me for a thousand years for playing the way i did-
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The thing is tjat this game is Soooo tantalizingly winnable but i cant let my self covet victory i have to remain above such earthly desires. Because of step 1 of my scum strategy guide-
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I think we have like a 1 out of 3 chance of winning in a tris sheep books torture lobby. Id really expect both of them to suddenly realize everything thats been going on.-
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Example of a post that makes me want to scum claimIn post 3745, Isis wrote: The way you engaged the whole dialogue makes me like visualize the skitter post of "ugh. Really sorry I couldn't keep up the energy level I needed for this. Definitely just kill Shea. You can win this "-
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Im sure that some or even most people play their town game in a way that deliberately makes it possible to emulate as scum. Not me. It is such a chore to emulate my town game (joke) (but the joke obscures some deeper truth)-
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ok thinking now that isis cant actually be the kill bc the logic would probably follow that i should have been the kill after that-
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i think isis is probably a harder lim than ari despite fire having her as their "weakest townread"
but as i mentioned before, it would be pretty easy to point out the fact that when isis dies N2 its weird when hellbooks doesn't die N3
isis sort of created all of that ari NK wifom right at thread lock
ari N2 kill, isis N3 kill, tris/brass/me ELO... again it feels like either of those people could very easily realize that this is like a conventionally perfect hellbooks win setup and come to an understanding. but i guess its still plausible that tris/brass scum would see that as close to their best F3 anyway
could i kill brass... what would that look like... like a tris/ari/me F3? no.... that doesnt seem very good.... ugh but i really think that tris would simply just solve the game in ELO though.... ok so what if i killed tris? can I convince ari to go brass over me in ELO? i mean ari townreads me bc of laser... i could argue that i wouldn't want to kill the ari/isis masonry because they both townread me actually.... and its easy to see how any scum would want to pick off that masonry. ok yea. i think ari has to be the conventionally correct kill that skitters ghost would tell me to go with.
i kill aristeia-
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it just really seems like it should be blindingly obvious to everyone that im scum LOL-
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datisi can you give me some words of encouragement : ) we all know youre cheering for me : )-
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i kind of dont want tris to get limmed today because i straight up think fire would vote me over brass
it would genuinely so cool if i somehow also died trying to stop tris from getting limmed. that would be an awesome and good outcome-
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brass/isis/hellbooks F3? no.... no way that works-
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out of the many joking scumslips ive made i think this one is one of the most dangerous because someone might read into it as me being like TMI tris is town. i thought about that and decided to click post anywayIn post 4115, hellbooks wrote: the great thing about wagoning tris is i'll be forced to dive in front of her and be like "get down madam president" and get limmed in her stead. as skitter's partner having to carry on her legacy-
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proud of 4164 and 4165 as probably the first even remotely towny posts i made this whole day phase-
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then of course i immediately tank it by coming off too strong as trying to get fire to hammer-
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