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This is my experience of Alisae too.In post 37, EchoVision wrote:alisae why aren't you spamming posts i thought that's what you normally do? or is that just in larges
THIS MAN HAD LIKE 300 POSTS IN DAY 1 OF OUR ONE GAME-
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*she*In post 21, Prof Hamm T Smiggles III wrote:I know this is random voting stage but if I had to pick scum right now it would be Shannon. I think she is trying too hard to act casual and talk about things that don't have anything to do with this game. Contrast that to Transcend, who asks about pineapple pizza (delicious!) but in a jokey kind of way that doesn't look like he is trying to convince us that he is harmless.
I think Echo is rude and shouldn't have said that to Alisae. Hopefully they are friends and this is kind-hearted banter.
VOTE: Shannon
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We don't need to hear about your special alone timeIn post 42, Alisae wrote:
OMGAWD THAT'S MY EXPERIENCE PLAYING WITH MYSELF AS WELL!In post 41, shannon wrote:
This is my experience of Alisae too.In post 37, EchoVision wrote:alisae why aren't you spamming posts i thought that's what you normally do? or is that just in larges
THIS MAN HAD LIKE 300 POSTS IN DAY 1 OF OUR ONE GAME-
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I'm not so sure - I think *at this point* Ali seems authentic, if a little muddled. I also think maybe, just maybe, Occam's Razor applies and the reason my wagon fell apart is because it was pretty much an RVS wagon.In post 68, Transcend wrote:Ok Alisae is caughtscum
Can you believe it?
I caught scum 3 pages into the game!
Too bad we won't see his red role PM until post game.
This one I agree with. I also TR you, FWIW.In post 77, Transcend wrote:Aris is town yay-
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@Hamster This little comment is all I felt I needed to say, because I don't generally see RVS wagons as particularly worth commenting on. But to expand: I think you were being very reachy in your interpretation of my game start. When we have played together more you will get to know my 'quirks', social awkwardness being one of them. I don't know what else you want me to say? Tunnel away, my friend.
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*she*In post 21, Prof Hamm T Smiggles III wrote:I know this is random voting stage but if I had to pick scum right now it would be Shannon. I think she is trying too hard to act casual and talk about things that don't have anything to do with this game. Contrast that to Transcend, who asks about pineapple pizza (delicious!) but in a jokey kind of way that doesn't look like he is trying to convince us that he is harmless.
I think Echo is rude and shouldn't have said that to Alisae. Hopefully they are friends and this is kind-hearted banter.
VOTE: Shannon
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IMHO it's worse for someone to confirm and then lurk than it is for them to not confirm.In post 130, EchoVision wrote:
that was just cause he hasn't confirmed yet so Im assuming he didn't even know the game started. penguin however confirmed with his role so he knew the game was starting soon.In post 128, Alisae wrote:Also another thing that concerns me is that Echo was more worried about PP and not Dont_Vote_me
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Transcend it looks to me like you left my wagon as some kind of reaction test. You don't strike me as the sort of person to say 'never mind' after L-1ing someone on a page 1 wagon. So, did you get what you were after? What did you learn from the way that people joined/didn't join my wagon?In post 28, EchoVision wrote:
retweetIn post 24, Transcend wrote:UNVOTE:
Actually nvm
21 looks a bit like over analyzation
VOTE: the hamster
VOTE: The Hamster Guy With a Cute Ass Picture
In post 35, Alisae wrote:I don't see what's wrong with the overanalyzation.
I think they just want to leave RVS as early as possible so they're town for that to me.I checked this out, and it's right - Hammy joined on Jan 25 and this is his first game on site. The thing is, I don't think he's new altogether.
Alisae, you say you think he wanted to leave RVS ASAP. This is not how newbie town thinks, IMHO. In all my newbie games (and I mean, with actual newbies to mafia, not people with off site experience), people have been unsure 1) about what RVS even is, and 2) how on earth you actually get from RVS to getting reads on people and voting. It's also weird that Hammy would pick a non-newbie game to start on site, unless he has experience.
I think you are trying to get us to view Hammy in a way that assumes he doesn't know what he's doing. I think he knows what he's doing. I think I know what *you're* doing, too, and you're not being very subtle about it.
Alisae how was Hammy's post designed to get scum to jump on him?In post 58, Alisae wrote:They want to start analyzing things to get us out of RVS.
I don't see how getting us out of RVS is a bad thing.
Plus I figured it was the kind of post that would get scum to jump onto them like dogs to a bone.
And, why would scum jump on Hammy's post? To try to derail my lynch (not happening, I'm town so why would they?) or to try to lynch Hammy for it (why would they, when I'm at L-1?).
In post 60, Alisae wrote:Give the hamster a chance to defend themselves.
At this point I rescind my previous statement that Alisae is genuine. 'Give the hamster a chance to defend themselves' from like one or two votes, vs. happily having me at L-1 when I've announced that I've gone to bed and you know I'm in a totally different time zone. Weren't so keen to give me a chance, were you?In post 66, Alisae wrote:No I'm just looking at it from a newb!scum perspective.
If hamster was newb!scum he would make more time into deciding if he wanted to put shannon at L-2.
I feel they would be more careful about it.
How would I know that it's an alt? And even if I did guess correctly on it being an alt, how would I know who the alt belonged to?
How do you know what newb!scum will do? Shouldn't newb town also think really hard before L-2ing someone? How could NewbieTownHamster be so prescient as to try to move us out of RVS, yet so thoughtless as to L-2 a townie?
Also, it was you who originally put me at L-2. It went Karnos (11), Transcend (12), Alisae (14), then Transcend changed (18), Hamster (21), Transcend (22). Why would Hammy be afraid of of following your lead to L-2 me again?-
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I think you're right.
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That's a nice safe claim for scum, good job.
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Ding ding ding we have a winner!In post 184, Transcend wrote:
UhIn post 183, Alisae wrote:It's better then not claiming.
Why not deny being scum here
Why deny the other part to what shannon said?
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In post 199, Alisae wrote:
Also your scumread on me is based on this association which is dumb, because you're looking for associations and/or distancing before a flip, AND flips aren't revealed this game. It's silly!In post 192, shannon wrote:^^What I think is that Alisae is making excuses for your play (and sorry for calling you he, Hammy) by saying 'OMG Hamster is new, nothing to see here!'. When in fact you are not new. You know when you are saying scummy things, and so does Alisae. At the moment I have you pegged as a team.
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1) I am hunting scum, I happen to think I've caught one in you. Hammy looking bad is just a bonusIn post 213, Alisae wrote:Just hunting scum.
I can't associate myself with anyone or distance myself with anyone because I'm town.
2) Town can totally associate themselves with others. That's what happens when you form a town block. Or when you investigate someone and get a clear on them.
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Maybe scum is avoiding voting because they don't want to bus their buddy who is already at L-1 or L-2, so early in the game... I can see that.In post 289, Transcend wrote:
This post sucksIn post 269, karnos wrote:You have been at L-1 for awhile now. No scummy quick-hammer. Maybe you are scum. Maybe scum is playing the long con. Maybe both scum are already on your wagon.
Merry Christmas, Alisae.
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Back! I've only read just the last two pages, I'll go back further later on.
Wow
Happy birthday TranscendIn post 347, Transcend wrote:Karnos come on buddy
Agree, for now. I think at some point though, claiming is going to be necessary if this is going to be anything more than a crapshoot. (Not to underestimate the ability of others to get reads, but I tend to rely a bit on VCA as well). Also, should we be considering no lynching as part of the strategy? Scum gets such an advantage from this setup, there's got to be some strategy open to us that's not just 'lynch and wait until the mod declares it over'.In post 355, karnos wrote:Nah, you are missing the point. I know my role. But it's not reveal on flip, so what shred of difference does it make to claim? I claim, scum calls my claim a lie and lynches me, no flip. Eventually the game ends and my alignment is revealed but scum already won.
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Reviewing the vote counts these past couple of days.
I think Echo is town based on the fake hammer of Alisae in 258. I've never seen that kind of reaction test done by scum, and I don't have any other good reason to scum read him.
I also want to point everyone's attention to these vote counts. Clearly there is something going on when two wagons in a row consist of {Echo, me, Transcend, Penguin} and our current wagon is on one of these and features none of these.
I'd tell you my thoughts about this but I don't want to lead people in to a certain response. So please, everyone, what do you see here, if anything?
VOTE COUNT 1.6
Alisae (4):EchoVision, shannon, Transcend, PenguinPower: L1
Echo Vision (2): Aristophanes, Alisae
shannon (1): Prof Hamm T Smiggles III
Not Voting (2): BTD6_Maker, karnos
VOTE COUNT 1.8
Karnos (4):Transcend, PenguinPower, shannon, EchoVision: L1
Echo Vision (2): Aristophanes, Alisae
shannon (1): Prof Hamm T Smiggles III
Not Voting (2): BTD6_Maker, karnos
Compare with the current vote count
VOTE COUNT 1.10
Echo Vision(4): Aristophanes, Alisae, karnos, Prof Hamm T Smiggles III : L1
Karnos (1):shannon
Alisae (1):Transcend
Not Voting (3): BTD6_Maker,PenguinPower, EchoVision-
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PenguinIn post 420, EchoVision wrote:
what do you mean with no unvote? Shannon's not voting me??In post 415, PenguinPower wrote:Also:
with no unvote. YaY!In post 413, shannon wrote:I think Echo is town based on the fake hammer of Alisae in 258
Glad you claimed, now we have a starting point to work from.In post 417, EchoVision wrote:oh nice I'm getting lynched isn't that fun
well I'm a 1shot BP so if anyone claims cop doc or tracker lynch the fuck out of them later k thnx <3
All this stuff you post below is spot on. Spoilers because it ends up being so much.
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For the sake of a new perspective, let's say they're not a team.In post 491, EchoVision wrote:
the issue is I don't think that you two are scum together...In post 490, Alisae wrote:I garentee you they are going to say that their name starts with an A and ends with lisae
Hammy looks worse to me than Ali does, hence my vote there. All that spoilered stuff above adds up to a pretty good case. And I really don't think she's new, at all, and I think she's been playing on that in a way that is dishonest, if not a scum tell exactly.
Alisae if it's not you, where should I be looking for scum? (Don't say at myself, or we're just going to go around in circles). And what do you think of Hammy?-
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Penguin, Aristo, neither of you are voting. What's the go as far as you see it?
FWIW Alisae I can't really see what's scummy about Penguin. If you've connected some dots though I'd love to see it.
Transcend is a bit of a mystery to me, by which I mean I don't really know how to read him in any game ever. Current strategy is to treat him as though he's town unless he remains suspiciously alive later on.-
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Or it just shows that people think he's town? Can you explain why you think resistance = scum jackpot?In post 509, karnos wrote:Transcend wagon is good, this resistance implies we hit the scum jackpot.-
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^^Hammy you've made me go back and check out what happened there.
@Penguin if you started to town read Karnos like you said, why did you justify your unvote by saying you wanted to hammer him? More to the point, why *didn't* you hammer him once Hammy put him back at L-1?
@Transcend why the unvote? If Karnos is scum, who cares whether or not Hammy is bussing?
(All the relevant quotes in spoilers because wall)
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Five days left. Can we start to consolidate, at least on the 'no' list?
Today I'm not voting:
Echo (claimed 1 shot BP, not voting a claimed PR D1)
Transcend (because I can't get a read there D1, and I think it's worth the risk/reward having him around until it starts to look suss)
Aristo (because I haven't seen anything at all worth voting)
The three above I won't hammer if they get put at L-1 today.
I would strongly prefer to lynch Hammy at this point.
I am up in the air about these others:
Ali (reconsidering my strong scum read, someone made a good point that they're unlikely to be the team with Hammy and I am feeling really strongly about Hammy)
Penguin (reconsidering my strong town read, his early D1 unvote doesn't make sense in context)
Karnos (mixed feelings, lean scum)
BTD (can't get a read - you confirmed your replacement in on post 209, but it took you til 482 to post again. What gives?)-
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Can I remind you of this, Ali and Aristo? Perhaps you should read my phrasing as charitably as you did Alis's?
In post 214, Aristophanes wrote:Did you actually just claim scum here!?
I don't think you've been bad by play, but geez! What am I supposed to think here.In post 216, Aristophanes wrote:
Acceptable actually, I totally misphrase things all the time!In post 215, Alisae wrote:Ari I was trying to convey that PP was bussing but when I posted it phrasing was bad.
Alisae, I really don't think you're scum. Who do you think has the worst (by that I mean scummiest) push against you and why? I could totally see scum capitalizing on this wagon.-
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OK then, why do *you* think I'm scum? Let's get it all out of the way now so then we can move on.In post 540, Prof Hamm T Smiggles III wrote:
I think Shannon might be scum but I'm not sold that this is a scumtell. But I also think there could be a hint of "being caught for the wrong reason" in Shannon's follow-up. More damning is her lack of pressure on me, who she is voting, and lack of follow-up on 413 and 516.In post 530, Alisae wrote:
You're scum for this one read.In post 529, shannon wrote:Aristo (because I haven't seen anything at all worth voting)
This read is legitmately saying "I haven't found an excuse to jump on them yet."
You're not looking for scum, you're looking for people to jump on.
I want Karnos and BTD to give reads on Shannon.-
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Regarding the follow up: I'm still mulling over the stuff I mentioned in 413, believe me. I am watching to see how my wagon develops now as I think it's going to hold some answers.In post 540, Prof Hamm T Smiggles III wrote:
I think Shannon might be scum but I'm not sold that this is a scumtell. But I also think there could be a hint of "being caught for the wrong reason" in Shannon's follow-up. More damning is her lack of pressure on me, who she is voting, and lack of follow-up on 413 and 516.In post 530, Alisae wrote:
You're scum for this one read.In post 529, shannon wrote:Aristo (because I haven't seen anything at all worth voting)
This read is legitmately saying "I haven't found an excuse to jump on them yet."
You're not looking for scum, you're looking for people to jump on.
I want Karnos and BTD to give reads on Shannon.
As for 413, thank you for reminding me that Transcend hasn't replied yet. I got distracted by the impending end of day and also by this rubbish wagon that is appearing on me. Interesting that you peg me for not following up, and not Transcend for not answering the question, though.-
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I am also unsure about Transcend. I consistently struggle to read him, especially D1. He has a reputation for being an excellent scum hunter, and also for being the sort of person whose scumminess becomes evident in later days only. That's why I'm not interested in wagoning him today. If we lose him, we lose big; if he's scum then it should become obvious later.In post 545, karnos wrote:UNVOTE:
I am not sure about transcend. He still may be scum, but I don't like BTD on the wagon and I don't see any advantage to pushing a wagon that is going nowhere, apparently nobody else even wants to consider voting him so it's not going to happen.-
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I don't believe you.
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This only works if you believe Hammy's claim. I don't believe his claim.In post 578, Transcend wrote:lynch someone jk me tonight thnx-
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I always make a mess of this. I'm either too obvious, too quick to claim, or generally cock it up like I have now. I should have just not said anything and come back with a result tomorrow, but what are the chances scum would send Hammy to do the kill?
Hammy is faking JK. I am the tracker. I hope Echo was faking BP earlier because that means there's a doc and I still have a chance to give a result.
For the love of god if you're the doctor don't claim, just protect me and we will lynch Hammy or Echo tomorrow.
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I've never been in this position before and I wasn't quite sure what to do! For future reference should I have shut up and pretended to believe Hammy or ???
PEdit: I can't see how I'm going to be alive tomorrow. Maybe if scum decide to play Super Wifom I suppose but I probably shouldn't comment on that. If I am here tomorrow, I don't know what I can even say to prove that my claim is real. So scum get me either way, via NK tonight or lynch tomorrow Sorry-
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If I can say something good I am actually quite pleased that I've finally managed to peg a scum on D1!!! Yeah!! (Assuming someone actually hammers Hammy)
Transcend town for what shoudl now be obvious reasons
Karnos probably town for hamster's attempt to push a wagon on him late today, could have been a risky attempt at distancing by bussing but that's an outside chance at the moment.
Echo town for his claim which is consistent with mine, and also it makes no sense for scum to both fake claim. If he's town and fake claimed, that's perfect because it outed scum to fake claim an impossible role. (Really really outside chance that this was super wifom scum plan or that Hammy went rogue by fake claiming after echo did)
Scum within Aristo, Penguin, BTD, Alisae. Probably BTD based on lurking.
Sorry for typos not sure when hammer will come and wanted to get that out before night.-
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The bold part reads as though you forgot what I claimed and tried to fake a narrative around me being a doc. And then you tried to retcon that by saying 'that first paragraph doesn't make any sense'. Also, if I *was* a doc, there's a third option for a no-kill, which is a mafia roleblocker. But that's academic, I'm the tracker and you're caught.In post 624, Prof Hamm T Smiggles III wrote:
Shannon claimed tracker, not doc, so that first paragraph doesn't make sense. So the tracker fake-claim is perfect for scum right now as they have no more town PRs or any flips that will counterclaim them, and they can give fake results on their way to an easy win.In post 620, Prof Hamm T Smiggles III wrote:With no flips, scum knows that if they lynch me today, they can take a shot at Echo tonight. Day 2 everyone is wifom'd (did Echo get hit as BP or did Shannon make a save?). Mislynch day 2. Night 2 they shoot and kill Echo. Day 3 is 2 scum V. 4 town and Shannon is just now being suspected of lying about being doc but probably doesn't get lynched until day 4.
Yeah I still wouldn't have CC'd as scum here in Shannon's shoes.
Town really should lynch outside me and Shannon today and sort between the two of us by who is alive day 4.
Also, why the hell would town wait until D4 to get rid of you? How does it make any sense to 'sort between us' by seeing who is alive then? Surely you can see how that's a shit strategy; either of us could just *leave the other alive* and have this strategy be null? More to the point, if anyone agrees with this strategy you will just kill me tonight (but go wifom and blame someone else of course) and I can't give any results.
There. is. no. jailkeeper. You know that - that's why you're saying 'cannot shoot the jailkeeper' instead of 'cannot shoot me'. Not to mention, there is no roleblocker. There can't be one, given my role. You're trying to play on people's emotions. Just give in to the lynch. Even if you do miraculously swing this lynch off of you, there's no way in hell you're getting away with it D2 - Transcend and hopefully Echo will make sure of it and you can't night kill all three of us.In post 626, Prof Hamm T Smiggles III wrote:
If we lynch outside me/Shannon, scum cannot shoot the jailkeeper tonight without losing Shannon tomorrow. Yes they can roleblocked me. The alternative if you lynch me is you can never know for certain if Shannon is fake-claiming tracker.In post 624, Prof Hamm T Smiggles III wrote:So the tracker fake-claim is perfect for scum right now as they have no more town PRs or any flips that will counterclaim them, and they can give fake results on their way to an easy win.
Town really should lynch outside me and Shannon today and sort between the two of us by who is alive day 4.
+1In post 628, Transcend wrote:yeah but there's literally no reason for shannon to claim pr here.
literally none.
just self hammer imo, you're not escaping a lynch.
You are caught. Just accept it and move on. It was clever of you to fake claim in order to draw out a CC, I will give you that.-
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I don't have any reason to think Echo is faking, his role is consistent with mine and I don't see both scum fake claiming roles on D1. And if I checked him and he was scum wouldn't that be a bit unbelievable anyway, given that I claimed a PR and am alive? Better that town sort him out I think.
PEdit: Penguin wasn't voting anyone before he hammered. Thought it might have been scum trying for town cred or trying to prevent certain questions being asked.-
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Let's imagine that I had tracked Echo and said he fake claimed. Would you have believed it?In post 685, Alisae wrote:VOTE: Shannon
Bullshit.
If you tracked Echo and found out he was fakeclaiming we would have won the game by now.
Town isn't concerned with being believable. Scum is.
What if I tracked Echo and said he was conf town. Would that be believable?
What if I'd tracked you and cleared you?
I get that you don't trust me based on how yesterday went down and how I CCed Hammy. That's fine. I don't expect you to, I didn't even expect to live to claim a result.
You can either accept me and Penguin as town, and Echo as un CCed town, and proceed from there, or you can make up whatever story you think fits the narrative. Make scum NK me, don't do the work for them. Especially not when it would render any VCA of today pretty much useless.-
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Not happening.In post 690, Alisae wrote:But fine, if you so wish I'll save you for tomorrow on the condition that you lynch Trans with me.
Based on what I saw yesterday and what I found out, Echo + Trans + Penguin are all town. Including myself, that's four of seven players. If we lynch inside the three remaining *and only inside those three* we should end up with a town win. We are in a really good spot here, I'm not letting you stuff it up.
All we need to do to win is lynch the scummiest of the remaining three players, and do that every day until we win in 3P.Killing any of us during the day ruins the system. So I am going to insist that we lynch within {Ali, BTD, Aristo} until I get firm info to the contrary.
Of course I am trying to avoid being lynched, everyone tries to avoid being lynched, it's how the game is played.In post 691, Alisae wrote:Cuz saying "Make scum NK me" sounds like "I am trying to avoid my lynch for as long as possible."
Why so? I asked whether I should say who I was going to check and you said not to.
Alisae ask yourself whether all these things make sense together:In post 704, Alisae wrote:But Ari! They're so fucking in sync. Like the dots are so fucking there.
Just because it's obvious doesn't mean it's ruled out.
I am scum under no pressure but decide to counter claim Hammy and draw attention to myself. Despite knowing that I will either be lynched D1 for fake claiming, lynched subsequent days for not being NKed.
Transcend is scum my buddy and backs my claim, drawing attention to himself. He does this knowing that I will be alive D2 and still thinks it's a good idea.
Your answer should be no, these things do not make sense together.
I know it's possible for Transcend to be scum with Hammy, but in that instance I don't see why he'd bus Hammy so hard. Why not just call BS on my claim instead, and direct his power lynching skills to me?-
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@Trans I meant the general overexcited attitude, not the conf bias.
@Ali you are going to have to get with the program here or get lynched. Yes, I am being pushy but that is because you are being stubborn. Aristo, this goes for you too, stop following Ali's rubbish.
I am the tracker. That is why I CCed the fake JK claim. The JK claim was probably designed to draw out a CC, so it might have been silly of me to do it. Nonetheless, it's done now, and while I'm alive I intend to make the best of it. That involves not allowing you to lynch Echo, who is un-CCed, Penguin, who I saw go nowhere, or Transcend, who helped me to lynch Hammy. It definitely involves not allowing you to lynch me, since I am the only one at this point who can potentially clear or catch people.
If Transcend is scum it will become obvious later on when he is suspiciously alive. Same with me. I don't know how I can state this more clearly than what Transcend has already said.
If you lynch me today you are doing scum's work for them. Make them use a night kill on me. Make them choose between lynches in the scum pool today so that we can compare with D1 and D3. Don't make it easy for them by lynching the only person who can catch them out. Make them off my town team, one by one, until it's only two townies and one other person left. If they try to wiggle out of it with a no lynch or a no nightkill, so much the better for catching them.
To get this far I've had to CC and I've somehow survived a night. I'm not giving up on myself or on town just because my existence makes you feel uncomfortable. Scum have made it this way deliberately. Yes that is ATE, but you are clearly not listening to reason so I am going with feelings instead. I don't know what else I can say. But I am 100% not giving up just because you want me to.-
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Ari or Ali, makes no difference just make sure you stick to lynching within the scum pool. You are town, Trans is town, Penguin is Super Town. Eventually they are going to run short of people to kill and we are going to win. Just follow the plan.In post 763, EchoVision wrote:if btd6 isn't scum and neither is Shannon then that rules out Trans and PP is conf Town..
that means tomorrow if Shannon dies tonight then we lynch aris imo.
I was really surprised to see BTD in this game because he was lurking so hard in the game I was in (it's now over) it wasn't funny. Anyway, good to know it's not just my experience. I'm happy to hammer him if no one else is. We can't take a non-player to LYLO, he's ripe for coming in and voting the wrong way.In post 768, Alisae wrote:He's doing the BTD things.
You know.
The things where he lurks.
Like, a lot.
Dude really? Did you not read what happened above? We're not lynching Transcend, he is town as hell for D1. What possible case can you make on Transcend? And for what reason should I not just hammer you now?In post 781, BTD6_maker wrote:I am willing to give Shannon the benefit of the doubt for today. If it really comes down to a choice between Alisae, Transcend and myself, I am willing to push Transcend. Transcend's ongoing push on me seems a lot like scum opportunism, pushing me because he knows I am an "easy mislynch" (even claiming I lurked in Open 660, when I had next to no Internet access). Alisae, meanwhile, is a Townread of mine. I am not willing to lynch here.
Transcend has given next to no reason for pushing me today apart from simply "we need to lynch someone other than Shannon".
VOTE: Transcend
This is the wagon I will push.-
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I tracked you, you went nowhere. To me, you're as town as it gets.
If you choose not to trust me, that's your prerogative and a feature of the setup, but it's nonetheless true.
There's no way scum fake claims D1, so Hammy is as good as caught to me. If he wasn't, why wouldn't he just come out and say yeah I claimed for shits and giggles, don't take it seriously?-
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