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I don't know why, but this post cracked me upIn post 67, Jaack wrote:AHH WHY ARE YOU SCUMREADING ME OHMYGEE OHMYGEE OHMYGEE-
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This kind of sounds like the mindset of scum, but scum wouldn't have any reason to announce that they'll just vote for whoever everyone else votes for. So I guess I have a town lean on you right now.In post 146, Jaack wrote:On the one hand, some people make good points in favor of lynching tiershift. On the other hand some people make good points against lynching tiershift. Therefore, I will go with whatever the popular opinion as expressed in the thread is. But whatever the result is, don't blame me. But I think the best choice is to lynch tiershift afther we discuss things that aren't tiershift for a while.-
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Why?In post 159, Jaack wrote:I think Skrub is scum. Discuss.
How is that calling him out if I said that he's a town lean?Vaxkiller wrote:In post 148, Skrub wrote:
This kind of sounds like the mindset of scum, but scum wouldn't have any reason to announce that they'll just vote for whoever everyone else votes for. So I guess I have a town lean on you right now.In post 146, Jaack wrote:On the one hand, some people make good points in favor of lynching tiershift. On the other hand some people make good points against lynching tiershift. Therefore, I will go with whatever the popular opinion as expressed in the thread is. But whatever the result is, don't blame me. But I think the best choice is to lynch tiershift afther we discuss things that aren't tiershift for a while.
To me he's calling out jack and then does something similarIn post 149, Skrub wrote:I wat to move my vote, but the tier wagon seems sketchy to me. I guess I should reread everything and see if anything stands out to me-
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I said that scum wouldn't have any son to advertise that they'll go along with any popular wagon, so I town read you. You're scum reading me for doing the same thing that you did so that doesn't really make any sense. And I didn't say or imply that I didn't want to offer anything so I don't know where you got that from-
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Why would someone who is town say this instead of being glad that they know who's 3rd party now? It makes it easier to sort people out and you can grill the 3rd parties to find out whether or not you can trust them.In post 54, light_ganski wrote:Why do people keep claiming 'third party but don't kill me', its not exactly useful
VOTE: TierShift
He says this and then format make any effort to try and figure out of tier is really scum. It's just an empty post. Even when he votes for him again in his next post he doesn't ask tier any questions.In post 116, light_ganski wrote:Considering the mechanics of this game, could this be a scum gambit?
VOTE: Maruchan
If we can't take their claims at their word why aren't you interacting with any of them to figure out which ones you can trust?In post 177, light_ganski wrote:
I get why you trust this but consider this scenario: scum claims third party and says they can win with town. We can't necessarily take third party claims at their wordIn post 174, Vedith wrote:
See, this is neutral that I trustIn post 166, Maruchan wrote:Plus, I haven't indicated that I CAN'T win with the town, nor have I indicated a willingness to win with any other faction, unlike Tierce, so you'd think that you'd be more willing to listen to me than to tierce
Oh and didn't you say that you have to change your vote in every post? Why'd you stop doing it?In post 183, light_ganski wrote:In post 182, Aristophanes wrote:So he's not town. There's gonna be tons of nit town. He's wiling to make more towny wincon available,. Why don't we a want this?or so it seems
The bolded is precisely my reason for not automatically trusting a day one non-town claim. What if he is the serial killer, and he's lying about getting the serial killer to 'team up' with him? It would be an awful good way to screw us over-
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This is worst role Mafia. The worst role a townie could have is a role where you can't claim. Everyone would want to lynch you. So it's kind of believableIn post 190, TierShift wrote:You are so full of shit vedith there is no way town wincon actually says that.-
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That's wasn't really a case though. Like at all. You gave a weak reason for scum reading me and it didn't even make sense because you had done the exact same thing right before that. I asked you to explain your reads more in depth and you haven't done that either. Why is light probtown? Why is Ari reasonably town? And why is vax null? I can understand why you're suspicious of tier and Mary but how have they "self confirmed their scum nature"?In post 199, Jaack wrote:
There's not much else to explain. I've already stated my case as to why you are scummy. Maru and Tier have self confirmed their own scum nature. Vedith is ridiculously obviously town. I have reasons to believe +__+ is town that I can't get much into, but he's also independently the rather townie. Setup says there must be at least 5 town, so two of the remaining three are required to be town. In order of likelyhood, I'd say Light is probtown, Ari is reasonablely town and Vax is null. But that's kind of just off of memory.In post 197, Skrub wrote:@jaack Can you go further in depth with explaining your reads?
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Nobody has any comments on this?In post 185, Skrub wrote:
Why would someone who is town say this instead of being glad that they know who's 3rd party now? It makes it easier to sort people out and you can grill the 3rd parties to find out whether or not you can trust them.In post 54, light_ganski wrote:Why do people keep claiming 'third party but don't kill me', its not exactly useful
VOTE: TierShift
He says this and then format make any effort to try and figure out of tier is really scum. It's just an empty post. Even when he votes for him again in his next post he doesn't ask tier any questions.In post 116, light_ganski wrote:Considering the mechanics of this game, could this be a scum gambit?
VOTE: Maruchan
If we can't take their claims at their word why aren't you interacting with any of them to figure out which ones you can trust?In post 177, light_ganski wrote:
I get why you trust this but consider this scenario: scum claims third party and says they can win with town. We can't necessarily take third party claims at their wordIn post 174, Vedith wrote:
See, this is neutral that I trustIn post 166, Maruchan wrote:Plus, I haven't indicated that I CAN'T win with the town, nor have I indicated a willingness to win with any other faction, unlike Tierce, so you'd think that you'd be more willing to listen to me than to tierce
Oh and didn't you say that you have to change your vote in every post? Why'd you stop doing it?In post 183, light_ganski wrote:In post 182, Aristophanes wrote:So he's not town. There's gonna be tons of nit town. He's wiling to make more towny wincon available,. Why don't we a want this?or so it seems
The bolded is precisely my reason for not automatically trusting a day one non-town claim. What if he is the serial killer, and he's lying about getting the serial killer to 'team up' with him? It would be an awful good way to screw us over-
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It's indicative when you back up your OMGUS with ridiculously weak reasoning.In post 232, Vaxkiller wrote:
Please,In post 231, Skrub wrote:Wow, an OMGUS vote. That's like straight out of the Scum 101 handbook.
I'll let you know when its OMGUS. Also since when are OMGUS votes alignment indicative?-
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Tier's role doesn't sound like he was working with anyone else. My point about him not being partners with light still stands. Look at my second an third points here. Light kept saying that we couldn't trust third parties yet didn't make any attempt to interact with them and figure out if they were bad or not.In post 185, Skrub wrote:
Why would someone who is town say this instead of being glad that they know who's 3rd party now? It makes it easier to sort people out and you can grill the 3rd parties to find out whether or not you can trust them.In post 54, light_ganski wrote:Why do people keep claiming 'third party but don't kill me', its not exactly useful
VOTE: TierShift
He says this and then format make any effort to try and figure out of tier is really scum. It's just an empty post. Even when he votes for him again in his next post he doesn't ask tier any questions.In post 116, light_ganski wrote:Considering the mechanics of this game, could this be a scum gambit?
VOTE: Maruchan
If we can't take their claims at their word why aren't you interacting with any of them to figure out which ones you can trust?In post 177, light_ganski wrote:
I get why you trust this but consider this scenario: scum claims third party and says they can win with town. We can't necessarily take third party claims at their wordIn post 174, Vedith wrote:
See, this is neutral that I trustIn post 166, Maruchan wrote:Plus, I haven't indicated that I CAN'T win with the town, nor have I indicated a willingness to win with any other faction, unlike Tierce, so you'd think that you'd be more willing to listen to me than to tierce
Oh and didn't you say that you have to change your vote in every post? Why'd you stop doing it?In post 183, light_ganski wrote:In post 182, Aristophanes wrote:So he's not town. There's gonna be tons of nit town. He's wiling to make more towny wincon available,. Why don't we a want this?or so it seems
The bolded is precisely my reason for not automatically trusting a day one non-town claim. What if he is the serial killer, and he's lying about getting the serial killer to 'team up' with him? It would be an awful good way to screw us over-
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It's the truth, therefore it adds up. It doesn't matter if you believe me or not, the fact still remains that I haven't lied about anything. Instead of wasting everyone's time by just saying "no, you're scum" any time I post anything, you should focus your attention on the people who are actually suspicious like vax.-
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What misdirection? So you wouldn't think it was weird if someone was saying not to trust a player and then didn't interact with or push for the lynch of the person they said was untrustworthy? How could you be sure that was just playstyle stuff and not scum stuff?In post 246, Vaxkiller wrote:Could your misdirection be any more obvious? Your case on light was not good at all, it looked like someone who was scrambling to find something where there was nothing.
I actually agree with you about light on some aspects, but all of those aspects are playstyle or odd comments and to me weren't alignment indicative. (I had no idea where he was going when he asked the 3rd party people to stop revealing, if the rest of the SK's want to show themselves, go for it.)-
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You didn't point out any inconsistencies. You said that I defended tier earlier on and voted him at the end of the day so I must be scum. The way you act makes it seem as if you don't have static reads then you're scum. It doesn't make sense. I know that you're saying that you don't believe the reasons I gave for changing my mind about him, but you haven't really given me a chance at all throughout the game. Like originally you voted me because I said I wasn't sure who to vote. It feels like you're looking for any excuse to vote for me.In post 248, Jaack wrote:
I'm not just saying 'no your scum'. I pointed out the inconsistencies in your play. Just because you claim your explainations are true does not make them so.In post 245, Skrub wrote:It's the truth, therefore it adds up. It doesn't matter if you believe me or not, the fact still remains that I haven't lied about anything. Instead of wasting everyone's time by just saying "no, you're scum" any time I post anything, you should focus your attention on the people who are actually suspicious like vax.
Furthermore, I'm not interested in pursuing vax at this time. You are my top priority. If you want to make a case on vax, I'm willing to read and evaluate, but it's not my job to focus on who you say look's scummy.-
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You're acting as if this wasn't my first posts today
In post 229, Skrub wrote:I think Vax is scum. He hasn't tried to figure out the game at all and his posts don't give me the impression that he cares about finding scum.
VOTE: vaxkiller
Light, come at me bruh. I can take anything you can dish out and in the end you'll just look silly.-
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If I was scum how would sheeping everyone else make me get caught? Most of the time people barely even bother with analyzing wagons after a mislynch, so it's pretty safe to just sheep what everyone else is doing.In post 259, Vaxkiller wrote:
How does he not get town cred for wanting to keep him alive? If we are dealing with all SK's (as Jaaack suggests) then no one will know each others alignment and SK!Skrub might have thought he was protecting a townie for town cred. Or maybe he didn't want to sheep along with everyone else and get caught that way.In post 251, Vedith wrote:This is the thing with Skrub. As scum/sk he gains nothing by wanting to keep Tier alive, not even town cred. The focus on Skrub just seems easy.-
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That's fairIn post 258, Jaack wrote:
I might be more willing to believe this if you hadn't been the one to end the day...In post 257, Skrub wrote:I know that this sounds really convenient, but I was writing out a post about why I thought tier and light were partners and then the day ended right before I could post it-
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You're not gonna get town cred from protecting a 3rd party even if they help us. That's a dumb argument. Changing my mind isn't scummy. You can't cast shade as much as you want, but it doesn't change the fact nothing I did was inherently scummy.In post 265, Vaxkiller wrote:I think I need to explain it differently.
SK!Skrub thought tier may actually help town today if he lived, getting him town cred. The only problem with this is I struggled with the same feelings. The only difference being his 180° "accidental" hammer. Which is a move straight out of Tony Hawk Pro Skummer 2.-
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You could argue that you refusing to even attempt to give me the benefit of the doubt and pushing me for weak reasons could be scum motivated. Looks like there's no Pulitzer in your future.In post 268, Jaack wrote:While I am not currently voting for Skrub, you can count my vote there for the time being. I like the fact that Skrub is the most likely lynch. I really have nothing else that I feel the need to bring up right now. If you wanna talk about something other than Skrub, then find something worht talking about, but I got nothing.
That being said, I am the alpha and omega of towniness, and if you can find one lick of scum motivation from my posts it will be the greatest historical discovery since the Rosetta Stone. I'm so town, Thornton Wilder won a Pulitzer Prize for writing a play about my performance in this game.-
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Out of those 2, you're the only one that i have a town read on. Vax is obvscum and light is null. Why wouldn't I try to change your mind about mislynching me?In post 274, Jaack wrote:
I've given your case consideration and come to the conclusion that you are scum.In post 271, Skrub wrote: You could argue that you refusing to even attempt to give me the benefit of the doubt and pushing me for weak reasons could be scum motivated. Looks like there's no Pulitzer in your future.
I don't know why you're making a huge deal out of my scum read on you when vax and light both are voting you and vedith has suspicion of you as well.
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In post 277, light_ganski wrote:Firstly, really sorry I haven't checked in the last two days, kinda got snowed under with work for my A-levels.
Secondly, let's analyse Skrub, and why I want him dead:
So this looks scum, so it isn't scum? Was there any point in saying it other than trying to look busy? And if it sounds like a scum mindset to you why does it leave you thinking 'town-lean'?In post 148, Skrub wrote:
This kind of sounds like the mindset of scum, but scum wouldn't have any reason to announce that they'll just vote for whoever everyone else votes for. So I guess I have a town lean on you right now.In post 146, Jaack wrote:On the one hand, some people make good points in favor of lynching tiershift. On the other hand some people make good points against lynching tiershift. Therefore, I will go with whatever the popular opinion as expressed in the thread is. But whatever the result is, don't blame me. But I think the best choice is to lynch tiershift afther we discuss things that aren't tiershift for a while.
Again, why give someone a town read for a post you think shows a scum mindset? Is it because he's solidly townread by pretty much everyone else?In post 162, Skrub wrote: How is that calling him out if I said that he's a town lean?He wasn't solidly townread then. And like I said it didn't make sense for scum to announce that they were just going to follow the popular vote. How is that "just looking busy"
Literally gives no indication of this changing before he hammers tier whatsoever. How do you go from 'no reasons to support a wagon' to hammering without expressing some sort of view on the guy?In post 171, Skrub wrote:I still don't get why people support a tier lynch
Already gone over his weak-ass case on mei don't control when I have realizations about stuff. Guess what? You can believe something one minute and then believe something completely different a few minutes later. What an amazing concept!
Even without any other reason to vote him, in my opinion these two posts in quick succession effectively confirm Skrub as scum. Judging by the comment skrub must've known he was hammering, I can see no reason for him to feel the need to make it if he wasn't (a) gloating town who thinks he's just killed scum or (b) scum trying to look like (a). Either way, it makes it obvious he knew he was hammering. There is no way in hell he genuinely thought it was L-2 and to walk back on that in his very next post is an obvious lie. This is so scummy it hurtsIn post 221, Skrub wrote:Oh shit, I thought he was at L-2. Eh, doesn't really matter because he's scum anyway.Literally everything you just said right here sounds nonsensical. Why wouldn't you make a post like this if you accidentally hammered? How does that make it obvious that I knew beforehand that it was a hammer? You're basically just saying over and over again "there's no way he didn't know that it was a hammer because it's obviously scummy because he obviously one it was a hammer so that makes it scummy". It's dumb and nothing you've said suggests that I knew it wasn't l-2.
So you end day one insisting I'm scum then go after vax at the start of day two? Why not vote your longer-held scum read?In post 229, Skrub wrote:I think Vax is scum. He hasn't tried to figure out the game at all and his posts don't give me the impression that he cares about finding scum.
VOTE: vaxkiller
Light, come at me bruh. I can take anything you can dish out and in the end you'll just look silly.because I didn't scumread you anymore. Duh.
Not weak reasoning. It's obvious you knew you were hammering.In post 234, Skrub wrote:
It's indicative when you back up your OMGUS with ridiculously weak reasoning.In post 232, Vaxkiller wrote:
Please,In post 231, Skrub wrote:Wow, an OMGUS vote. That's like straight out of the Scum 101 handbook.
I'll let you know when its OMGUS. Also since when are OMGUS votes alignment indicative?Its weaker than Leafy's chin. I didn't know shit
In post 241, Skrub wrote:You're just making me repeat myself over and over again. Yeah, it's true that I didn't think we should lynch him for most of day 1. Then I noticed how light was acting suspicious of him but not really doing anything with that suspicion and it felt off to me so I voted for tier.In post 243, Skrub wrote:It's 100% the truth though. I don't know why you're asking me to explain myself if you're just going to brush aside what I'm saying and not even try to listen to me
Misdirection, misdirection, misdirection. At this point you've given no reason why you jumped straight from town-read to hammerIn post 245, Skrub wrote:It's the truth, therefore it adds up. It doesn't matter if you believe me or not, the fact still remains that I haven't lied about anything. Instead of wasting everyone's time by just saying "no, you're scum" any time I post anything, you should focus your attention on the people who are actually suspicious like vax.without at least stating your read had changed. I honestly cannot believe that if you genuinely scum-read me with tier you'd hammer without saying anything abut how your read on him had changed.aparently you don't know what the word misdirection means. And I didn't know it was hammer. I already said that before.
Yes, it sounds highly convenient. Do me a favour, if you did think this could you outline what you would've said, just so everyone can get their heads round your though process?In post 257, Skrub wrote:I know that this sounds really convenient, but I was writing out a post about why I thought tier and light were partners and then the day ended right before I could post it
And couldn't you have done thisbeforeyou voted?i didn't expect the thread to close 5 minutes after I voted for him. I didn't even know that it was a hammer at first so I thought that I had a lot of time to talk about it
As an aside, I genuinely don't see how this post benefits any alignmentIn post 261, Skrub wrote: If I was scum how would sheeping everyone else make me get caught? Most of the time people barely even bother with analyzing wagons after a mislynch, so it's pretty safe to just sheep what everyone else is doing.Maybe learn reading comprehension then? If I was scum why wouldn't I take the safe easy option instead of defending him and not getting any benefits whatsoever? He said that following everyone else would get me caught if I was scum and I was saying that he was wrong
In post 270, Skrub wrote: You're not gonna get town cred from protecting a 3rd party even if they help us. That's a dumb argument. Changing my mind isn't scummy. You can't cast shade as much as you want, but it doesn't change the fact nothing I did was inherently scummy.
This is nothing more than gish gallop tbhIn post 271, Skrub wrote: You could argue that you refusing to even attempt to give me the benefit of the doubt and pushing me for weak reasons could be scum motivated. Looks like there's no Pulitzer in your future.no idea what that means
So I'm null now am I? Please explain in more detail than 'I thought you were tier's partner' because that wasn't why you scum read me when you cased me on day one.In post 275, Skrub wrote: Out of those 2, you're the only one that i have a town read on. Vax is obvscum and light is null. Why wouldn't I try to change your mind about mislynching me?thats why I scumread you though. You were talking about how suspicious the third parties were yet you didn't push them at all. Both of them have already flipped and aren't part of a faction, so you can't be either of their partners. But I don't like your general lack of effort (up until this point). So the end result is that you're null-
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Yeah. He wasn't doing anything at all until a perfect mislynch opportunity fell into his lapIn post 291, Aristophanes wrote:
I will!In post 286, Vedith wrote:
You still can!In post 284, Aristophanes wrote:I could have sworn I'd posted...
Nope. Should I?Skrub wrote:None of you find it odd that vax contributed basically nothing useful on day 1 but now he's happy to jump all over my wagon?-
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Calling me an easy lynch and town reading him for defending me makes it sound like you already know that I'm townIn post 301, Vaxkiller wrote:The only thing keeping me from thinking your scum is the fact you could have just jumped on the easy Skrub lynch wagon, but instead you defended Skrub.-
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I'll write out the case later todayIn post 306, Jaack wrote:Yeah, Ari is pretty town. Are you townreading Skrub due to everyone jumping onto his wagon, or are there elements of his play that you find to be towny?
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In post 107, Vaxkiller wrote:
In your opinion, he's scum or scum?In post 106, Vedith wrote:
Because he's either scum or probably gains something anti town if targeted at night.In post 105, +__+ wrote:@Tier
In post 63, +__+ wrote:Why don't you just fullclaim now and let us decide if its better to lynch you day 1 or 2?
In a "normal" game I would agree, but something tells me it's a "worst idea" to give townies new abilities if targeted at night.
UNVOTE:In post 118, Vaxkiller wrote:Ok I see what you mean now vedith. That does seem like a slip.In post 120, Vaxkiller wrote:I mean if he is town aligned why would the sk even WANT to help him.In post 121, Vaxkiller wrote:Lol what is he, a town aligned jester
Instead of talking about the benefits of his plan to town he says don't kill me it won't help you.[/quote]In post 154, Vaxkiller wrote:This sentence is really rubbed me the wrong way.
[quotownIn post 50, TierShift"]
Town, you have no benefit in lynching me. I will fullclaim day 2.
Just like light, vax kept acting suspicious of tier yet didn't attempt to push for his lynch at all or ask tier any questions to figure out more about his role. I don't see the town motivation in acting like someone is scum and not trying to get them lynched.
This is a blatant misrep seeing as how I even said in that quote that I was town reading jaack, not "calling him out".In post 161, Vaxkiller wrote:In post 148, Skrub wrote:
This kind of sounds like the mindset of scum, but scum wouldn't have any reason to announce that they'll just vote for whoever everyone else votes for. So I guess I have a town lean on you right now.In post 146, Jaack wrote:On the one hand, some people make good points in favor of lynching tiershift. On the other hand some people make good points against lynching tiershift. Therefore, I will go with whatever the popular opinion as expressed in the thread is. But whatever the result is, don't blame me. But I think the best choice is to lynch tiershift afther we discuss things that aren't tiershift for a while.
To me he's calling out jack and then does something similarIn post 149, Skrub wrote:I wat to move my vote, but the tier wagon seems sketchy to me. I guess I should reread everything and see if anything stands out to me
Opportunistic vote. He doesn't even attempt to try and figure out if I hammered accidentally. He saw a chance to go for an easy mislynch and went for it.In post 230, Vaxkiller wrote:In post 221, Skrub wrote:Oh shit, I thought he was at L-2. Eh, doesn't really matter because he's scum anyway.
I've seen a resurgence of this lately. Everytime: SCUM
VOTE: SKRUB
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I bolded the part that was blatant:In post 252, Skrub wrote:What misdirection?
No reasons. You are basically saying, don't vote for me... vote for this guy!In post 245, Skrub wrote:It's the truth, therefore it adds up. It doesn't matter if you believe me or not, the fact still remains that I haven't lied about anything. Instead of wasting everyone's time by just saying "no, you're scum" any time I post anything,you should focus your attention on the people who are actually suspicious like vax.In post 255, Skrub wrote:You're acting as if this wasn't my first posts today
In post 229, Skrub wrote:I think Vax is scum. He hasn't tried to figure out the game at all and his posts don't give me the impression that he cares about finding scum.
I showed why he was full of shit there.
VOTE: vaxkiller
Light, come at me bruh. I can take anything you can dish out and in the end you'll just look silly.In post 265, Vaxkiller wrote:I think I need to explain it differently.
SK!Skrub thought tier may actually help town today if he lived, getting him town cred. The only problem with this is I struggled with the same feelings. The only difference being his 180° "accidental" hammer. Which is a move straight out of Tony Hawk Pro Skummer 2.
Vedith showed how his logic was full of holes here.In post 264, Vedith wrote:I don't get your point. There's a difference to Tier playing anti town and not being town.
When someone says "I'm neutral" that confirms that they are not town. There was absolutely no town cred to be gained on lynching Tier.
Like I said before, the fact that he called me an easy lunch and townread Vedith for defending me shows that he's scum. The only reason he'd say that is if he already knew I was town. If he really believed that I was scum, why would he townread someone for defending me?In post 301, Vaxkiller wrote:The only thing keeping me from thinking your scum is the fact you could have just jumped on the easy Skrub lynch wagon, but instead you defended Skrub.-
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I put Vedith's post after yours because he already rekt your argument yet you still wanted to act as if you had a point. There's no deception there because you'd have to be blind not to see the post numbers. And I didn't manipulate your name in anything so I don't know what you're talking about. Is this a desperate last ditch OMGUS vote?In post 315, Vaxkiller wrote:
I read the above post and was going to respond with my follow up post explaining myself more clearly. Then I saw you took my FOLLOW UP post and swapped it BEFORE Vediths post, to make it seem like my posts were not clear!!! ON TOP OF THAT you gave a tell!!! You manipulated my name in the post!!!! "Vax Killer" You new full well what you were doing.In post 313, Skrub wrote:In post 265, Vaxkiller wrote:I think I need to explain it differently.
SK!Skrub thought tier may actually help town today if he lived, getting him town cred. The only problem with this is I struggled with the same feelings. The only difference being his 180° "accidental" hammer. Which is a move straight out of Tony Hawk Pro Skummer 2.
Vedith showed how his logic was full of holes here.In post 264, Vedith wrote:I don't get your point. There's a difference to Tier playing anti town and not being town.
When someone says "I'm neutral" that confirms that they are not town. There was absolutely no town cred to be gained on lynching Tier.
Like I said before, the fact that he called me an easy lunch and townread Vedith for defending me shows that he's scum. The only reason he'd say that is if he already knew I was town. If he really believed that I was scum, why would he townread someone for defending me?In post 301, Vaxkiller wrote:The only thing keeping me from thinking your scum is the fact you could have just jumped on the easy Skrub lynch wagon, but instead you defended Skrub.
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It's a scum slipIn post 314, Vaxkiller wrote:
It's just the truth, you are an easy lynch, can you name the scum motivation in what I said about Vedith? Saying it only put me more in the spotlight, but I wanted to call it out.In post 312, Vedith wrote:In post 310, Skrub wrote:Calling me an easy lynch and town reading him for defending me makes it sound like you already know that I'm town-
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What are you even trying to say in this post? How am I framing and changing history? The only thing that's being shown is that you can't form any coherent thoughtsIn post 318, Vaxkiller wrote:
Then why does it say Vax Killer? Also, check the history, I voted you at the start of the day, but I have restrictions. This time it should go through. This is not an OMGUS vote, but keep trying to frame and change history, its showing your true colors.In post 316, Skrub wrote:And I didn't manipulate your name in anything so I don't know what you're talking about. Is this a desperate last ditch OMGUS vote?-
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Just like light, vax kept acting suspicious of tier yet didn't attempt to push for his lynch at all or ask tier any questions to figure out more about his role. I don't see the town motivation in acting like someone is scum and not trying to get them lynched.In post 313, Skrub wrote:In post 107, Vaxkiller wrote:
In your opinion, he's scum or scum?In post 106, Vedith wrote:
Because he's either scum or probably gains something anti town if targeted at night.In post 105, +__+ wrote:@Tier
In post 63, +__+ wrote:Why don't you just fullclaim now and let us decide if its better to lynch you day 1 or 2?
In a "normal" game I would agree, but something tells me it's a "worst idea" to give townies new abilities if targeted at night.
UNVOTE:In post 118, Vaxkiller wrote:Ok I see what you mean now vedith. That does seem like a slip.In post 120, Vaxkiller wrote:I mean if he is town aligned why would the sk even WANT to help him.In post 121, Vaxkiller wrote:Lol what is he, a town aligned jester
Instead of talking about the benefits of his plan to town he says don't kill me it won't help you.In post 154, Vaxkiller wrote:This sentence is really rubbed me the wrong way.
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Town, you have no benefit in lynching me. I will fullclaim day 2.
This is a blatant misrep seeing as how I even said in that quote that I was town reading jaack, not "calling him out".In post 161, Vaxkiller wrote:In post 148, Skrub wrote:
This kind of sounds like the mindset of scum, but scum wouldn't have any reason to announce that they'll just vote for whoever everyone else votes for. So I guess I have a town lean on you right now.In post 146, Jaack wrote:On the one hand, some people make good points in favor of lynching tiershift. On the other hand some people make good points against lynching tiershift. Therefore, I will go with whatever the popular opinion as expressed in the thread is. But whatever the result is, don't blame me. But I think the best choice is to lynch tiershift afther we discuss things that aren't tiershift for a while.
To me he's calling out jack and then does something similarIn post 149, Skrub wrote:I wat to move my vote, but the tier wagon seems sketchy to me. I guess I should reread everything and see if anything stands out to me
Opportunistic vote. He doesn't even attempt to try and figure out if I hammered accidentally. He saw a chance to go for an easy mislynch and went for it.In post 230, Vaxkiller wrote:In post 221, Skrub wrote:Oh shit, I thought he was at L-2. Eh, doesn't really matter because he's scum anyway.
I've seen a resurgence of this lately. Everytime: SCUM
VOTE: SKRUB
In post 254, Vaxkiller wrote:
I bolded the part that was blatant:In post 252, Skrub wrote:What misdirection?
No reasons. You are basically saying, don't vote for me... vote for this guy!In post 245, Skrub wrote:It's the truth, therefore it adds up. It doesn't matter if you believe me or not, the fact still remains that I haven't lied about anything. Instead of wasting everyone's time by just saying "no, you're scum" any time I post anything,you should focus your attention on the people who are actually suspicious like vax.In post 255, Skrub wrote:You're acting as if this wasn't my first posts today
In post 229, Skrub wrote:I think Vax is scum. He hasn't tried to figure out the game at all and his posts don't give me the impression that he cares about finding scum.
I showed why he was full of shit there.
VOTE: vaxkiller
Light, come at me bruh. I can take anything you can dish out and in the end you'll just look silly.In post 265, Vaxkiller wrote:I think I need to explain it differently.
SK!Skrub thought tier may actually help town today if he lived, getting him town cred. The only problem with this is I struggled with the same feelings. The only difference being his 180° "accidental" hammer. Which is a move straight out of Tony Hawk Pro Skummer 2.
Vedith showed how his logic was full of holes here.In post 264, Vedith wrote:I don't get your point. There's a difference to Tier playing anti town and not being town.
When someone says "I'm neutral" that confirms that they are not town. There was absolutely no town cred to be gained on lynching Tier.
Like I said before, the fact that he called me an easy lunch and townread Vedith for defending me shows that he's scum. The only reason he'd say that is if he already knew I was town. If he really believed that I was scum, why would he townread someone for defending me?[/quote]In post 301, Vaxkiller wrote:The only thing keeping me from thinking your scum is the fact you could have just jumped on the easy Skrub lynch wagon, but instead you defended Skrub.-
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How are any of the players conf town? I believe the claims, but we don't have seen anything that confirms without a doubt that they're town. It just makes it sound like you're scum and you already knew that they were town. What's even worse is that you included yourself as conf town which is definitely not true.In post 336, Vaxkiller wrote:NOM NOM NOM
For today I'm ok with a Skrub or light lynch. As long as Vedith keeps his word and we have only 1 death tonight keep him around, if not, for gods sake you will need to lynch him.
To me the scum pool can only be Skrub, light, and possibly jack in that specific order. I think everyone else is conf town (as long as the night goes correctly.)
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