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alright here's how this works
#1: any vote for no lynch is tantamount to a scum claim. there is literally no benefit for any group to no lynch today
#2: you damn well better be scumhunting outside of your group because at least one person outside of your group is scum
#3: i can't think of an important #3 right now but 3 is a nice number isn't that right mod?
anyways dragonite is the best of the three dragons here so my group is the one with three townies, any counterarguments to this point?
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In post 6, TheIrishPope wrote:ok
anyway as i was saying, everyone better out reads regarding people in other groups to draw connections and/or enhance poe
im town what are you guys
i'm the mafia in our group
wtf do you think everyone is gonna claim, jester?
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In post 6, TheIrishPope wrote:ok
anyway as i was saying, everyone better out reads regarding people in other groups to draw connections and/or enhance poe
im town what are you guys
good enough for me
Edo, why is Lucky mafia
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wtf i didn't quote that post
is the quote function here still bugged omgShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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i don't particularly like any of the three tbh
flygon 4 lyfe
one true dragon bro
also theoretically i guess 4 votes and not 3 is fine too but 5 votes is def too many
i'm trying to figure out the best way for votes to be laid out without putting us at risk for a lolhammer, the mathematical maximum is 6 votes (3 votes in two groups, 0 in the third) but that scenario is very unlikely so let's say for the sake of sanity that 6 votes is the theoretical L-1 (and 6 votes total are required to lynch too, so it's not even a safe number either, hence 5 also being a bad number)
so for the sake of my sanity nobody should be voting if there are already 4 votes in play, use hurt or fos or w/e elseShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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rn now of the people who've posted:
Irish's #6 actually does rub me the wrong way and my rvs vote is gonna stick for a bit longer
chamber shooting down scumhunting outside of groups also bothers me but i can see it coming from a town perspective too
i get good vibes from both bins and NM
fluff accusations on page 1 are rly bad, not happy about unicat either
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yeah it's soooo hard to go to the micro subforum and find the thread isn't itShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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okay, this is the part where you give an argument other than "he's mafia"ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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In post 31, Edosurist wrote:Because in his two posts, he hasn't placed a vote.
In Lucky's one post, he also hasn't.
That makes NM twice as anti-town as Lucky. Ergo, he's the scum.
I guess you could say this doesn't make Luckynotscum, but considering that NM is, Lucky isn't.
alright so i'm going to ignore you for the rest of the game
i agree that this is just really stupid and not scummy but i actually like stupid less, i'm not allowed to ignore scum anyways
i don't think anyone said anything about a scumslip, pie
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@pie: "reasons" is not enough
pretty sure pie and pope aren't scum together, though
the phrasing bins pointed out implies that if pie is scum he knows pope is town
but i don't think it confirms pie as scum on its own
hi chamber
edo you are not the one to be asking people to explain their votes, considering that you did not explain your NM vote initially (and the reason you gave is LOL)
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chamber, why the vote?
pope, i don't care if you do it every game, but please stop doing it if you do, it's a terrible first impression
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i changed my mind being aggressive is a towntell plz keep thinking i can't be scum bcuz i'm aggressiveShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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metaing me is a waste of time anyways, i don't play mafia enough anymore for patterns to show up in the months between my games
aside from the fact that i always play aggressivelyShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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i just assumed "its" as in "my playstyle the it"
but you should've used "it's" anywaysShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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i'm sorry if his apparently-meta thing heavily sways my initial read on him, regardless of his alignmentShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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alright, so your intent is to continue voting me but never say why
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christ you guys are gonna accidentally lynch already omg stop votingShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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Group one!
Rainbow Unicat - Bins
Bins - Pie
InflatablePie
Group two!
TheIrishPope - Parama
Parama - chamber
Chamber
Group Three!
Edosurist - Lucky, Edo
Not_Mafia -
Lucky2U - NMShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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wow i totally missed in the last group rip
Group Three!
Edosurist - Lucky
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anyways we can't have any lolhammers quite yet, fortunately, ok, calmly reading nowShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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@lucky - you're scum, apparently. the logic was bad and stupid but why is it scum? who outside of your group is scum?
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FoS: Unicat
poe mostly
here's something else we need to not give a damn about today
assume there is one scum in each group, don't try to figure out which group is all three town because there's no use in doing so, we can discuss day 2 which group we think the all-town one is but we need to lynch in that group today regardless
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i am reading the zoraster game linked from the queue thread and w o w
1. one scum brings up NL on page 2
2. other scum suggests groups stick to themselves d1
both of these are absolutely awful ideas
and guess what scum still won that game
so yes let me reinforce
1. voting no lynch = scum claim
2. everyone needs to scumhunt outside of their group
what this leads me to is
chamber being opposed to scumhunting outside of groups in his first post looks even worse now
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i actually read that as "tip" as in the word "tip" and was confused
I'm gonna guess you mean irish?
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no reason that i can put to words but one of those reads being a dirty lie undercuts it a little anywaysShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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i do agree that edo has been pretty useless thus far fwiw, but i don't agree with your conclusionShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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hmm i just thought of another strong argument for not trying to figure out which group is all-town today but i can't say anymore until day 2 rolls aroundShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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there's no point /today/, yes, i already said as muchShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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btw if there are any other times this setup has been played i'd like to see them and read them, having more than one game to reference will make this easierShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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In post 109, Lucky2u wrote:No point tomorrow either.
you're incredibly wrongShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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okay, why is it the better way to play it then, i see absolutely no reason why this is the caseShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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okay, and then you'll have everyone stuck on suspecting the other player in their group day 2, so nothing will get done because nobody has paid attention to anyone else in the game
and it's not like we can't come to a group consensus just because we can only vote among our groups
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In post 116, Rainbow Unicat wrote:5 I appreciate this post from Parama because I’ve never played this setup before and it appears that they have, but I’m wondering why they didn’t hold back this information until they could catch someone behaving incorrectly.
i actually haven't, but fortunately reading over the other thread solidified my initial setup thoughts and gave me some J U I C Y as hell information on how to really figure out both town and scum day 2, should we even need to
In post 116, Rainbow Unicat wrote:24 I’m still appreciating the mafia theory from parama because I’d be lost in this setup without it but I’m going to ISO him when I’m done catching up to double check the scumhunting/mafia theory ratio.
--Plotinus
honestly even if i'd been more theory than scumhunting in your ratio, what would've been wrong with that? it's a setup that's a good degree different from a standard mafia, and literally nobody else is trying to exploit it to make scumhunting easier, i'll theory-dump if i feel like it if it gets everyone else on the same page as me
In post 121, Rainbow Unicat wrote:was the “good enough or me” in 17 directed at notmafia since you said you didn’t mean to quote irish pope but i couldn’t figure out who you were talking to then.
in which direction is the irish pope’s meta thing swaying you in 71?
directed at NM
swayed towards scum, because it's a scummy way to start a game
In post 123, Lucky2u wrote:Hmm... Being such a universal scum read, it reminds me of my early mafia days as lynch bait. It's ok.
holy AtE batman, kill this with fire jesus christ
i'm slightly bothered because plot's catchup read is the kind of post i'd make as scum, a lot of it feels like fluff or retreading things other people have said, there's some points there but not many strong conclusions taken from the read
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In post 112, chamber wrote:Redcoyote is a pretty good player. I suspect he would have put forward the idea for the same reason I did, it's obviously the better way to play it. Lying about theoretical things is difficult because you need to actually be able to justify yourself concretely.
okay in hindsight holy hell is this disgusting
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1. redcoyote is a good player (which has no relevance here)
2. he put forward the idea for the same reason i did (implying that you are also a good player)
3. "it's obvious" is a blatant lie, because i disagree, as did pretty much every townie in that game
4. if it WAS obvious there's no point in Red saying it in that game and you saying it in this game? surely it would go without saying, right?
5. on that note, what benefit does scum have of putting forth the "better way to play" if it doesn't benefit them in some way? that just suggests that it benefits scum more than it benefits town
6. in this specific post, your "justification" is "it's obvious", which i'm pretty sure is not justifying it concretely
and then your justification in the next post is that scumhunting outside of groups is "wasted effort", pretending that that is something that exists in a mafia game (it doesn't, really, becauseit's a game)
yeah no, you're hiding behind a "good player" curtain to try and defend a really bad way of playing this setup. i feel like you didn't see the other game when you argued against scumhunting between groups, saw it when i brought it up, and then had to retroactively defend your stance so you weren't obvious scum, but the defense is full of holes
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i don't know if lucky is actually mafia or just really stupid town, but i'm absolutely sure about this. chamber is scum.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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Questions for parama:
was the “good enough or me” in 17 directed at notmafia since you said you didn’t mean to quote irish pope but i couldn’t figure out who you were talking to then.
no ur rong bins it's obvious we shouldn't interact with other groopsat all
i shouldnt even be talking with u rn bcuz i'm interacting with other groopLast edited by Salamence20 on Tue Aug 04, 2015 4:53 am, edited 1 time in total.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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WHAT THE HELL IS YOUR PROBLEM QUOTE FUNCTION
Mod can you just remove all the quotes from that post, none of them are supposed to be there
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okay for whatever reason the normal quote button is acting like multiquote and then since i write my posts in a completely different tab than the one i quote in it's adding all my quotes to the post after because they're still in the multiquote buffer, even though i'm not clicking the multiquote button to begin with? oy vey.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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yeah i am super unsettled by rainbow still, but fortunately i townread the other two in the group
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what's worthless, what's nitpicky. you're being dismissive instead of arguing against my points, and you try to turn it around and argue that my theory posting is scummy instead?
but you're missing the point. i never said red looked scummy in that game for his theory posting (and nobody else did either, his play was wildly terrible in the second half of day 1 and all of day 2 but that's beside the point). i never said you were scummy simply because you had the same mindset as a scum player in another game. you assert that his theory has nothing to do with him being scum, but with him being competent, using this to imply that you are also competent. your justification is not competent. "it's obvious" is not justification. "competence" is not a shield.
and sure, scum don't lie all the time, but they don't tell the truth all the time either. it's not hard to lie about theory in a new setup where there's no definitive statement on theory, and you can pull together a solid argument to back up your theory whether it's right or wrong, because nothing is black and white.
2 weeks to decide on one player might be pressed if you're deciding between 8 or more players, but you're saying you feel pressed to choose between 2 players in the span of 2 weeks? that seems unreasonable.
though i can understand maybe for you, sure. because guess what? you have done -absolutely zero- scumhunting thus far. you bring up one null point in 8 and try to indirectly say i'm not scumhunting in 67 (which is untrue) and the rest of your posts have been defending your stubborn position to not scumhunt outside of your group.
i honestly feel i'm putting way too much effort in my reply compared to you.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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seriously, if you have all this time to sit here and argue with me over theory, wouldn;t that time be better spent looking at other players outside of your group? or even the ones in your group?
btw irish needs to be posting more.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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he hasn't posted anywhere else on the site since his last posting window in this thread tho so he's probably just not around but i want to hear more from him regardless.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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i'm gonna play along for now, i don't care if chamber is gonna be obstinate about his theory
though i feel that if he actually believed it he'd be scumhunting instead of arguing with me about it
regardless of whether or not you read 2 players or 8, though, you need to start posting some real contentShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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so you're just going to keep being dismissive, alrightShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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In post 153, chamber wrote:I don't think arguing the theory is important so I'm not arguing it.
k if you say so
In post 114, chamber wrote:Because it doesn't matter. Today all that matters for me is figuring out which of you and pope is more likely to be scum. Effort used on other things is wasted. We'll have waaay more information from other sources by the time that I need to consider other groups. If someone sees something absolutely damning, sure they can say something, but the focus should absolutely be on everyone figuring out their own group.
In post 144, chamber wrote:I feel time pressed to settle on 1 lynch choice in a 2 week period. I don't know how anyone could have enough time to be satisfied with 3. That's what I mean by wasted effort. If you have time to be looking at those other candidates you should be focusing it on the choice you can actually impact instead.
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NM, I'm guessing you don't agree with me on chamber, then? why am i wrong, then?
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for the sake of my sanity can you unvote for now, pie
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In post 162, Not_Mafia wrote:I don't necessarily disagree, I've seen town argue it before in this set-up and there's nothing that particularly hits me as "Chamber doesn't believe this"
yeah i'll give him credit for sticking to his guns whether or not he does believe it, wrong as his theory is, the problem i have is how he's dressing up his arguments and dismissing my own
and from how he's not posting any scumhunting content of his own i have to come to one of two conclusions:
1. he's scum and doesn't have any
2. he's internalizing his reads and not sharing anything with the class
the latter is kinda anti-town, there's no reason to hide your reads imo
anyways pie, my reasoning for chamber is arguably bad, apparently, so argue with me why it's bad.
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In post 162, Not_Mafia wrote:I don't necessarily disagree, I've seen town argue it before in this set-up and there's nothing that particularly hits me as "Chamber doesn't believe this"
irish it's because i personally have to decide between you and chamber
and again it doesn't matter which group is the town group because we're lynching in all three groups either way
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guess what, i did not mean to quote that post
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In post 180, TheIrishPope wrote:
The point isn't that I have to suspect one of the two, the point is that it doesn't matter if we're split up in groups, I'll still scumhunt like this was a regular game of mafia. Suspecting one or both of you two is not necessary as I could call you both town, but you and I know that's not true.
alright i guess but you need to treat all three groups as having one scum d1 anyways
In post 181, InflatablePie wrote:your argument seems to boil down to scum doing something in another run of this setup, thus chamber is scum for suggesting those things.
yeah that's my argument if you skim the first post i made, sure
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In post 145, Parama wrote:but you're missing the point. i never said red looked scummy in that game for his theory posting (and nobody else did either, his play was wildly terrible in the second half of day 1 and all of day 2 but that's beside the point). i never said you were scummy simply because you had the same mindset as a scum player in another game. you assert that his theory has nothing to do with him being scum, but with him being competent, using this to imply that you are also competent. your justification is not competent. "it's obvious" is not justification. "competence" is not a shield.
and sure, scum don't lie all the time, but they don't tell the truth all the time either. it's not hard to lie about theory in a new setup where there's no definitive statement on theory, and you can pull together a solid argument to back up your theory whether it's right or wrong, because nothing is black and white.
tho it looks like you already did
and yeah i agree effort =/= town
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i have coasted in so many games as scum because i'm almost always capable of putting in effort and people write me off as town for that, it's hilarious
irish, i'd like if you elaborated. i also want chamber to elaborate but i know he's not going to
In post 185, Edosurist wrote:I actually peg my group for the all town group.
whooosh, that's the sound of any town cred you have plummeting off the edge of a cliff.
justify why you feel this way in your next post.
by the way pie's my strongest townread atm, it could legit go either way between unicat/bins in the first group, i kinda get buddyingfeels from Bins' posting but that might be just paranoia, unicat's posting looks the worst so far in that group
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elaborate on why Edo is scummier than NM.
elaborate on any/all of your reads. posting something beyond the bare minimum.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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declaring your group as the all-town group undercuts any shred of scumhunting you do today, because if you think your group is all town, how are you going to push for a scumlynch?
as well it's buddying to your groupmates, and it's an easy thing to declare without really substantiating it.
declaring your group as the town group when scum also means you can push on the actual all-town group easier bcuz your justification is that your group has no scum, so the other two groups do. and if all three people in one group flip town you can fall back on the "well i thought my group was town so the scum had to be in that group, but i was wrong" excuse pretty easily
and yes i did notice that both scum in the game i read did this too, but i was already figuring it was a scum a scum move to do, especially day 1, even before they both pulled the trigger on it
really declaring any one group as the all-town group d1 is a bad idea but it's the worst when it's your own group. i see literally no town benefit to declaring it even if you believe it, because now i can't take any scumhunting you do seriously, especially if one single post is going to make you go back on that opinion. on the flip side there's a lot of scum benefit for declaring your own group to be the town group.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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i do appreciate you keeping your vote on the person you read as scummier in spite of calling both of them town, tho, hmm. if you'd unvoted after the town declaration i'd have had you strung up faster than [insert really fast thing here]
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the first paragraph of your story was fine but the other two are really unnecessary
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In post 209, chamber wrote:In post 180, TheIrishPope wrote:but you and I know that's not true.
Is this you calling parama scum?
or he could be calling himself scum too
i like how your sole contribution is to pop in with "oh hey the other guy who can vote parama might suspect parama now, i should push him on it"
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if you read both other players in your group as town, you aren't going to be lynching one of them on suspicion of being scum. because you read them as town. if you do lynch them, it'll be because they're "less town" and not "scum".
buddying on its own isn't inherently scummy, but it's part of the bigger picture here
something is scummy when it primarily benefits scum and rarely if ever benefits town. it's not "when scum, then scummy" it's "scummy, thus scum". the point i was making is how it benefits scum and doesn't benefit town to call your groupmates scummy.
what hasn't been properly elaborated on, i spend all of that post before that line explaining why it's a scummy thing to do.
if you don't understand why announcing a towngroup day 1 is bad whenwe're lynching in all three groups anyways so there is literally zero reason to figure out which group is all-town on d1then i don't know how i'm ever going to make you understand the rest of my argument though
you're being cheeky as hell right now and that's not helping either. you fail to understand a fairly basic premise that i've pretty much spelled out point-for-point, then argue that it's bad simply because "i don't understand it" then you ask me to literally just repeat myself like it's my problem that you're daft.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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I'm going to try spelling this out in as simple of terms as humanly possible.
One group does not have any scum, but we have no way of knowing which group this is. This is a fact.
No Lynching in any group means the mafia choose the lynch in that group, guaranteeing a mafia-chosen mislynch. This is a fact.
As the above are true, there is literally zero benefit to no-lynching in a group.
Thus, we are lynching in all three groups today. This can be treated as a fact.
If a group is all-town, then a mislynch in that group is guaranteed.
Declaring a group as all-town implies that a player believes a lynch in that group will result in a mislynch.
How are you going to scumhunt in a group when you believe all three players to be town? How are you going to decide a lynch in the group? If you push someone, while believing they are town, isn't that a contradiction? The only read you can push is "less town" rather than "scum", which is:
1. A much weaker conviction than "scum" if the player is town, and much harder to justify. It's a lot harder to build a case on why someone is "less town" than to build one on why someone is "scum".
2. Incredibly easy to hide behind as scum, since "well I thought they were town anyways but we had to lynch someone" is an easy excuse, and not really a scummy one, more a fairly logical one.
In regards to the other groups it basically gives you a free pass to not scumhunt in that group because "they're all town anyways and I can't vote so I'll let them come to their own conclusions". It distances yourself from the group and their lynch.
If you declare your own group as town, then you're likely to spend less time focusing on your group and more time focusing on the other groups. If you're scum and thus know your own group is not all town, you've just given yourself a free pass to push a lynch between three players you know are all town and not suffer the repercussions.
All three groups should be treated as having one scum in them on Day 1, and therefore claiming a group as all-town is meaningless. You can believe it, sure but announcing it either muddles things up as town or gives you an easy shield as scum.
I probably missed some important point here because I haven't looked at this from every possible angle because I don't want to be here all night but this should be enough to show the general concept of "has no benefit as town, has lots of benefit as scum".
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