These votes might have something to do with it.
Just saying.
In post 1445, fferyllt wrote:
No it doesn't. It's exactly what I would have done given Pine's last post and the time on the clock.
In post 1460, Mathdino wrote:
This is PoE, BBT.
I seriously don't get why you continue to tunnel Beck when the game makes 0 sense with him flipping scum.
In post 1465, Mathdino wrote:I believe they already stated that he's not a neighbouriser.
Regardless, if you'll check back to the end of D1, I recall saying Scripten was probably town seeing what he was doing with me as a reaction test. He was in my townlist before Beck 'confirmed' him. It's just easier to say he's town due to his role than because ~reasons~.
What other flimsy reasons?
In post 1469, Mathdino wrote:Beck and Grib voted together on multiple occasions, in some cases within a few posts of each other (240, 246).
FinnLaw changed his mind very fluidly and naturally when it came to Beck. fferyllt's posting on Beck doesn't ping, and she even pointed out a potential scumslip from him. This would be dumb if they were partners.
You already pointed out how you don't think Beck and I are partners.
Beck and Pine's interaction at 77 doesn't look like scum and scum. If you look at Pine's ISO, his peacekeeping when it came to Beck was very much not a scum/scum interaction. I admit this is more gut than not. However, the possibility of Beck/Pine still fits with my "one of Grib and Pine is scum".
Regardless of course, I've got a townread on Beck ALONG WITH all this.
Edit: My townread on Beck since my rereading of the game has very little to do with the Scripten issue.
Edit2: Okay, point them out.
In post 1477, Beck wrote:In post 1467, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:He 'finds out' that Scripten is town somehow.
Check your facts cause this never happened. I still don't know scripten is town.
In post 1480, Beck wrote:
Btw, why would a townie be mad about this if it was true? As a townie if I could somehow scratch 2 possible names off my list of suspects I'd be ecstatic.
Seems to me you are butt hurt scum that has lost 2 townies from your mislynch pool to me...
In post 1485, Beck wrote:
Well I thought it was a lovely story... You tell it SO WELL, with such enthusiasm.
But riddle me this batman. How would I as scum conspire this plan if scripten is town and I was scum who has no idea what role scripten had to begin with?
Also scripten can tell you what happened in the qt, what I said when he asked me to confirm him as town day 2.
The ONLY way this plan works is if we are scum together and then that doesnt even work as a good idea.
In post 1487, Mathdino wrote:Wow, I didn't think of that at all.
I might be persuaded to switch to a BBT lynch today actually. His Beck tunneling doesn't make any sense, along with the fact that he suddenly backed off of Grib once everyone wanted to vote him.
In post 1492, Beck wrote:1. Ask scripten what my reaction was last night. Also look at me day 2, I had to research first and the. I still wasn't convinced completely. If I was scum, I would immediately started buddying him.
2. That makes literally no sense if you are Town, so you are scum
3. You fail so bad, that literally makes no sense
4. Why math and not me? Or pine (you know, the guy who you wanted to hammer? ) Or scripten or fferly? All seem convinced I'm not scum
In post 1495, Beck wrote:
So you dont think pine is scum? Why did you give intent to hammer on him if you didn't think he was scum?
In post 1494, Beck wrote:
Do me a favor, ask scripten what he asked me to do and what my response was.
Thanks
In post 1504, Beck wrote:So its not odd he wanted to hammer you but now he has no interest in lynching you?
In post 1505, Scripten wrote:So we're gonna lynch BBT now, right? Or is this game just going to keep stalling over and over again?
In post 1511, Mathdino wrote:BBT, make a quick post when you're online, I want to ask you some questions in real time.
In post 1531, Beck wrote:So, I'm not scum. If you aren't actually scum here, who is the real scum team.
The fact you haven't even attempted to explain your scum read on me and have used really weak reasons that aren't even scum tells, confirms to me you aren't town.
In post 1532, Mathdino wrote:BBT's flipflopping on me and shoehorning Pine into a scumread is beginning to give me doubts about this. His last word reads are just PoE? I'd have expected him to stay consistent I guess.
Why would he suddenly townread me just for the reaction test if he were scum?
In post 1585, Scripten wrote:
It disintegrated because it was too easy a wagon. Grib might be scum, but BBT's behavior regarding that wagon was weird and doesn't rely on associative reads to be scummy.
In post 1587, Scripten wrote:
Didn't feel like a natural progression. If you ISO me, I think I've explained it. Would do it myself but I have to leave shortly.
In post 1599, Mathdino wrote:Want more discussion, we have 4 days, I'm not sure everything that can be said has been said.
In post 1632, Beck wrote:
Well why else would you bring it up? You certainly haven't done a good job explaining any of your votes so sorry if I have trouble figuring out this one. You just keep dodging...
In post 1633, Beck wrote:
Oh so when you told me before you provided reasons that was just a lie right? Got it...
In post 1636, fferyllt wrote:BBT I have no fucking idea why you're townreading me.
In post 1640, Beck wrote:
Plus what happened to your theory that scripten/me is a scum team? Now you are town reading him?
Plus I'm pretty sure you were scum reading grib at some point, why did that change? What did he do to make you think he's town?
In post 1641, Scripten wrote:Fferyllt:Would you be interested in my BBT wagon? Today is just getting monotonous. If we end up with a deadline lynch again I'm probably gonna lose my mind. He doesn't have any reads that aren't associative or PoE, and that bugs me. It looks like it bugs you. Come on and join us.
In post 1642, Beck wrote:
Also.you never explained.why you left grib's vote out as a reason why pine was at l-1. Why would you purposely lie to pine if you are indees town? My vote was #1 remember?
In post 1649, Scripten wrote:
In my scum game where I was on his team, (It's on my wiki page, if you're curious.) he used a similar tactic to push a wagon on me right out of RVS. (Pretty much the same part of the day that he pushed Grib.) Obviously, the tactic was slightly different here, but not enough that I'm willing to discount BBT being scum for it.
In post 1655, Beck wrote:
No you actually haven't. I've called you out on it a bunch of times yet you keep pretending like you have.
All you have on me is some really stupid theory that doesn't even make sense, my pushing scripten day 1, me using self meta, and poe.
None of these are reasons to scum read anyone. Let alone push so hard to lynch them.
In post 1656, Beck wrote:
I don't ever remember seeing you explain it. Maybe I should use your own logic back on you. You are now town reading him cause you don't want to buss your partner. Am I right?
In post 1852, Mathdino wrote:If Scripten is scum (a goddamn scum neighborizer, highly powerful), and if Pine is scum, we have ONE PR and that's a watcher. Scripten/Pine is impossible because that'd make the setup absolute shit.
In post 1859, Pine wrote:
PE: Neighborizer is a weak role specifically because it doesn't do what you just said.
In post 1863, Mathdino wrote:
Now if Scripten is scum, you're right, neighborizers cause paranoia. And this is balanced out by... a lone watcher?
In post 1867, Mathdino wrote:
Edit: I know that Neighborizer is super goddamn powerful in the hands of a good player and I know that 1 town PR against a Neighborizer who everyone will assume is town anyway is shit.
In post 1870, Mathdino wrote:BBT YOU NIMROD
If Scripten were scum he'd have hammered you!
In what universe is BBT's suspicion legitimate?!
In post 1879, Mathdino wrote:I'm assuming we lynch BBT because it's over if we don't
In post 1883, Mathdino wrote:1. I already explained how the Beck kill makes BBT scum since scum should reasonably expect Beck to destroy the town with his first vote if BBT were town.
In post 1895, Mathdino wrote:fferyllt I kind of want you to vote Pine just to further prove that Scripten is town.
In post 1898, Mathdino wrote:Then vote Pine. I have no motivation to hammer or vote anyone other than BBT today. If Scripten votes Pine, that's gonna be the lynch anyway.
In post 1906, Mathdino wrote:fferyllt's hesitance makes me uneasy, like she doesn't want to be seen as in league with BBT just yet.
In post 1916, Scripten wrote:Of course, if Pine is scum and BBT is not, we will have already lost the game. Even better, the only scumteam possible with that configuration would be Pine/Mathdino.
In post 1917, Mathdino wrote:
I really do want to keep this between me and BBT if only because we can implement the tracker test overnight to decide between Pine and fferyllt.
In post 1937, Pine wrote:Notice how this is the second time today you've shot activity requests at me, and both times I've responded within half an hour
In post 1940, Scripten wrote:I'm trying to nail scum instead of letting you antagonizing me into voting, so the strong language is unnecessary. Your methods are definitely making me want to vote you, but I'm holding back because you might just be trying to strongarm me because that's your town play. Tempted to meta you. We have time before deadline and I don't feel like losing.
In post 1948, Pine wrote:I'm not a tracker, but the plan works with watching
In post 1950, Mathdino wrote:In post 1948, Pine wrote:I'm not a tracker, but the plan works with watching
???
In post 1956, Mathdino wrote:That offers quite the predicament. fferyllt could then watch me, but the issue is that we'd have to decide an action claiming order for tomorrow. The 2nd person could easily just agree with the 1st person.