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In post 34, GrayFoxxxx wrote:In post 33, Mantisdreamz wrote:
well ok. this is a little silly scripten, no? how can there not be official voting, yet voting at the same time. any votes won't be count anyway. it's just that the votes are there... unofficially as a way to keep track of everyone's voting preferences/stances
I'm a little confused as to why you think what Script said was silly.
Once he no longer has the power of the kill it might make more sense to him.
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In post 54, Scripten wrote:At least each head of the hydra can't be individual scum.
Yeah, I like the idea of executing Nikanor. What do you think of that idea, Mantisdreamz?
The first thing I notice is that Nikanor was pushing for your execution.
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In post 65, Maxous wrote:
In post 56, SABBATHonSABBATH wrote:In post 54, Scripten wrote:At least each head of the hydra can't be individual scum.
Yeah, I like the idea of executing Nikanor. What do you think of that idea, Mantisdreamz?
The first thing I notice is that Nikanor was pushing for your execution.
uh-huh, but this isn't an opinion of nik's play.
Your point?
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Town cred for anyone that shoots Nik and scumclaim for anyone that gives him the gun(should we call it a gun?) Shooting from the hip on P1, without scum hunting, I don't expect his contributions to be any greater than that for the rest of the game.
@mantis- Ok it's fake. IMO it makes it worse. Don't fake execute people. "Only the King can do this." But Aronis has spoken, so Problem Solved, Problem Staying Solved
Foxxx are you flavor hinting for town cred?
Maxous what makes Mantis less likeable than Fox and Nikanor?
Quinoa- Since this is an alt guessing game, are you a *quin, quin*, or a *quin* alt? And why do you think that Mantis knows you so well? All you've said to him is Hi.-
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In post 77, SABBATHonSABBATH wrote:Town cred for anyone that shoots Nik and scumclaim for anyone that gives him the gun(should we call it a gun?) Shooting from the hip on P1, without scum hunting, I don't expect his contributions to be any greater than that for the rest of the game.
@mantis- Ok it's fake. IMO it makes it worse. Don't fake execute people. "Only the King can do this." But Aronis has spoken, so Problem Solved, Problem Staying Solved
Foxxx are you flavor hinting for town cred?
Maxous what makes Mantis less likeable than Fox and Nikanor?
Quinoa- Since this is an alt guessing game, are you a *quin, quin*, or a *quin* alt? And why do you think that Mantis knows you so well? All you've said to him is Hi.
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In post 5, GrayFoxxxx wrote:All Hail Mantis!
In post 35, GrayFoxxxx wrote:
I'm not so sure about this philosophy. Kingmaker is always town. Not the King.
Not to emply anything M'Lord.
The m'lord and All hail mantis. It isn't a post restriction. It looks like flavor hinting. Like this...
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In post 129, Mantisdreamz wrote:thing is though... and this is in general. his push for execution was pretty much like a vote. in normal terms of mafia... ppl don't generally get freaked out over someone placing a vote.
But Nik's post was actualy like calling for a quick hammer, or trying to pressure a dayvig to act without reasoning.
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In post 149, Maxous wrote:In post 77, SABBATHonSABBATH wrote:
Maxous what makes Mantis less likeable than Fox and Nikanor?
idk how to answer this really? i didn't feel mantis was as town as nik.
Mantis is the Day1 named king, by either flavor or by role. Don't you think that's effectively a IC confirmation by the mod?
Which also brings me back to Nik's gambit choice. The named king? Very Ballsy.
Which part of 77 makes you think we should be killed? Is it that I'm not liking Nikan?
or the questions I asked? You already said you didn't like me prior to 77. What makes 77 different? -skip to post edit after seeing 166
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Can you point to further Nikanor contributions? I'm pushing a scummy gambit that was played in poor taste. Is that policy?-
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In post 168, Nikanor wrote:scumteam is sabbath & grayfoxxxx
In post 169, Nikanor wrote:though honestly a lot of my grayfoxx read comes from the fact that he chose to iso sabbath first & his iso on me (i haven't read the rest).
Oh great, an associative read assuming that a second player is scum based on a player who is town possibly being scum. Dio and I have no partners except each other.
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In post 179, Nazarene wrote:I cannot imagine both heads of a hydra legitimately believing that that was a gambit. Or that it is important anyhow.
Dio doesn't think the broken rule hurt anything, and I'm not sure if he understands why my panties are so bunched up over it.
27 was my refusal to believe the most likely truth. Post hoc 37 I've accepted it as a gambit, but a scummy one for multiple reasons.-
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My biggest issue is with Quinoa. Normally bullshit like that is a null read, but the deadlines are too short to be futzing around like that. Nikor gets some scum points for doing the same thing to a lesser extent.
There's too much WIFOM for me to agree with anything about Nikor's execute command to be anything other than a troll post. I guess you could say creating the WIFOM itself is scummy but meh. But I still find Nikor scummy for other reasons like a lot of his filler so I'm not getting in too much of a fit about Ozzy's scum read gambit thing.
Maxous is a little light on content for me to say much more than null.
GreyFoxx's reads lists are interesting, but at this stage in the game could very easily be faked by scum. I can't really read into his motivations with them. He gets town points for scumhunting afterwards though.
Nazerine is town. Scripten's meta argument on him has me thinking, but I'm not sure about what as of right now.
Right now I want either Nik or Quinora killed. Nik more than Quinora, who is kinda policy right now. I'll talk a little more with Ozzy but I'm pretty sure he'll agree there.
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In post 200, Nikanor wrote:but your entire iso is weak, however will i choose just one post
Okay I was being lazy and assumed I was making sense and I wasn't. I apologize.
You didn't like GreyFoxx's posts with commentary on ISO's right? Would you be able to pick one of his ISO commentaries and refute it?
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In post 202, Nazarene wrote:
In post 186, SABBATHonSABBATH wrote:My biggest issue is with Quinoa. Normally bullshit like that is a null read, but the deadlines are too short to be futzing around like that.
Fucking around with long deadlines is null, but with short deadlines it's scummy?
Yes. It makes a higher percentage of his posting filler. Has he made a single contributive post yet?
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So, I've taken a while away from this game to clear my head, and think about what I'm doing because nobody goes anywhere in this game when they're angrily tunneling, a bane of mine.Spoiler: Essay reduction
erggh fukawall.
I don't care. It's in my ISO now if you want to look it up later. More later.
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P.edit. I changed my mind. it really isn't that hard to push the spoiler button.-
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In post 222, GrayFoxxxx wrote:
Could you please point to my buddying? And give reason to why its buddying please
Your cutesy all hails, and m'lord statements are clearly directed towards Mantis. Do you think that if you say nice things to him, he'll town read you? I say it's buddying -to a null read non the less.
You say below he could be my scum partner but you say above you understand why Script got defensive. I dont think you can have one with the other.
His defensiveness makes it more likely that he isn't your partner. Scripten read it for what I said. Maybe I should have added in something like Scripten defense seems to be motivated by a town mindset, or something complicated and wordy like that.
Ive already explained that I am speculating on a link (if any) between the two. For a better explanation refer to my post 189. Seems like you are grabbing at straws here. Town doesn't do that
The "straw" that I'm grabbing at here is your towniest town read catches an associative scum read about 3 posts later even though you seem to have no reason to suspect him as being any sort of scum.-
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In post 228, Mantisdreamz wrote:why did ya vote yourself?
For good practice/Votes don't count/ To present SoS is an acceptable nickname.
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In post 213, Nazarene wrote:
@SABBATH:Please explain your Nik scumread beyond the completely ridiculous claim that he attempted to execute the king. I do not see why that scumread has remained so implacable.
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In post 220, Nazarene wrote:So uh, what happened to your nik read?
abandoned by WIFOM. Actual game information presented itself and I realized I was being stupid.-
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In post 253, GrayFoxxxx wrote:
Are you ignoring my other posts about him? Plus I am just trying to keep the style of the game up. My good sir.
yea, and it's not any sort of posting restriction. Which posts should I be ignoring? Is it 158
His defensiveness makes it more likely that he isn't your partner. Scripten read it for what I said. Maybe I should have added in something like Scripten defense seems to be motivated by a town mindset, or something complicated and wordy like that.
Wait wait wait. How did what you said translate to what Scripten said???? "Greyfoxx's evaluation of tiershift seems to be clearly pointing a finger at Naz and linking him as scum with his bestest town read." I dont see it. So this really means "He said that your posts lean toward you trying to implicate me as your scum partner (Assuming you are scum) and said that my reaction and push back suggest my innocence." I call B.S. Someone else please give me some insight.
"Scripten's push back leads me to believe that Scripten is inno on this one." -ozzy
Why did you flat out ignore my answer to this?
189 So you are justifying your scum read on Scripten by WIFOM? If I'm supposed to believe that you are telling the truth, then you expect me to believe that since Nazarene is now your biggest scum read, you're claiming a Nazarene/Scripten scum team. If not, why did you say it? Explain your scum read on Scripten.
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In post 279, Nazarene wrote:What the fuck does abandoned by WIFOM mean? What in Nikanor's behaviour is townish now?
What if I'm death tunneling on some stupid crap that actually has nothing to do with the game? Are there other things that I should be looking at?- Oh there are. Wow. I think I only drank the poisoned glass at the beginning of the game.
pshh nothing really. I just calmed down and re-evaluated the game with a clear mind. I still don't think he should be given the gun and I'm sticking to that.
What's your opinion of Maxous?
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In post 279, Nazarene wrote:In post 207, Nazarene wrote:
@Sabbath:
Why am I so town to you?
Can I please know which head josh?
Requoting this AGAIN. Please respond.
You were town at the time because you got straight to scumhunting. No bullshit. But right now, I really don't like how you accused us of having
Why was this such a hugely important question that you had to press it twice over?
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In post 298, Nazarene wrote:In post 297, SABBATHonSABBATH wrote:
You were town at the time because you got straight to scumhunting. No bullshit. But right now, I really don't like how you accused us of having
Why was this such a hugely important question that you had to press it twice over?
I asked thrice because I was worried about your read on me. No one had read us as town that strongly up to that point and you did, for reasons I could not see. And you kept on not responding.
And my worries were proven right. You abandoned your townread on us quickly, leaving me to believe you exaggerated your townread on us for whatever reason, just as you did with your nikanor scumread.
Can you please complete the unfinished sentence in your previous post?
-Tier
I took issue with the fact that you criticized us for null reading Foxx's ISO's, and then went and said they were scummy. Our reasons for the reads weren't that different either. I also disagree that IIoA can be considered a scumtell regardless of context.
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According to GreyFoxx
1. Scripten is hard town
2. Nazarene is leaning scum
3. Nazarene and Scripten are probably scum partners
I don't know how much clearer I can be. Points 1 and 2 do not follow with point 3. Like, AT ALL.
For Scripten I can drop my point on Foxx buddying, but it's a small detail to my POV that Foxx is over exaggerating an attempt to look townie, and failing.
Foxx's new stance towards Scripten is OMGUS.
I'll go back and try to respond to some posts that are directed at me.
VOTE: GREYFOXXX
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In post 283, GrayFoxxxx wrote:1- Still you are ignoring my other posts towards him. But it doesn't matter, your buddying claim is so weak. I called Mantis King a few times. Big deal.
2. All you did was rephrase. Did not answer how the two statements are parallel. Why?
3. Dont really have a scum read on him, what are you talking about. You are trying to go in circles with this all day. Why?
It's more about your attempts to look town being overly exxagerated.
Scripten cannot be simultaneously town and scum partners with Nazarene.
Any possible logic that could justify your thoughts of Scripten and Nazarene being the scum team, is circular.
I think maxous is scum too for the record. I'm not sure why this Scripten thing is more of an issue.-
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In post 310, SABBATHonSABBATH wrote:.
I'm sorry guys this is my first hydra and I keep forgetting to sign. ~ozzy-
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Also Greyfoxx, Any comment on the disconnects between your evaluations of the posts and the actual posts themselves such as the one I pointed out by Maxous.
free link to your read 154
maxous post [post]149[/149]
I think you forgot to read the bottom half of the post. I don't really care what you have to say about the rest of the post. I'm calling you scummy because there are parts of posts that you didn't respond to and evaluate, and I think your ISO evaluations were fake. This is just one particular example that I noticed. I don't want you to skate off by talking about the post and not what I'm actually calling scummy for.
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In post 333, GrayFoxxxx wrote:post 219
Greyfoxx's evaluation of tiershift(NaZ) seems to be clearly pointing a finger at Naz and linking him(Scripten) as scum with his(Greyfoxx's) bestest town read(Sripten). This is aweful.
This is SABs quote all this fuss is over by the way.
Script and Sab both said it really meant that I was trying to seem scum while also making Script seem like my scum buddy. I don't even.
Script then changes views yadda yadda
There is a pronoun error. I've added in some parentheses so that hopefully it will read better. and a shorter edited version
Greyfoxx says that his highest town read is scum buddies with Nazarene. This is awful.-
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Oh look I found this gif of myself when I used to play on the jets...
I think I said a lot of complicated shit, but I was calling Greyfoxx scum for multiple reasons. being
Attempting to use the game flavor to appear town.
Creating the ISO reads as an attempt to appear town. because the ISO's
1. have Poor evaluations of posts and leave out the more important parts of the posts.
2. are Describing the posts rather than giving opinions on their content, and
Contradictions.
This just happens to be the point that is being questioned.
In post 151, GrayFoxxxx wrote:Uses meta way to strongly here. Makes me look at Script as poss. scum if Naz is scum.
This is the comment that was being questioned. Greyfoxx thinks Scripten is town, thinks Naz is scum, thinks scripten may be scum with Naz.
This is a lot different than Maxous's example. Maxous thought both parties were town, but still suspicious. In this case GF says Scripten and Nazarene are on opposite sides of the spectrum.
In max's defense, he says that GF is going to be reevaluating everyone. But that's not what was said. Greyfoxx is looking at Scripten as Nazarene's partner.
GF doesn't have any case on Scripten being scum except for one comment made Nazarene. And he still hasn't made any case on Scripten being scum except some OMGUS to being pressed on how the Sripten and Naz are connected in any other way.
I don't think Scripten is wrong in his interpretation of what I said. Greyfoxx did make an awkward comment praising Maxous for town reading scripten which I also pointed out. This could be another area where a misinterpretation is happening. Because of the praise, I considered Scripten as a scum partner of Greyfoxx, but concluded that it was probably not the case. Due to Scripten responses to GF.
In other news, I like the GF's response to my earlier question about the disconnect between what he chose to respond to, and the content in the posts.
something along the lines of "I can't help it if you think there's a disconnect" I think it's a pretty fair response, and I'm not going to press this matter further. There are too many misinterpretations at this point and most of them are probably based on my wordiness.
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