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In post 124, Nazarene wrote:Scum have daytalk, so relational tells will not be as strong as in night-talk games, and scum can furthermore coordinate closely.
I checked the rule list for this game and the original. Scum daytalk is never listed. Everyone in your group should be voting you asap.
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Post #131 (isolation #14) » Tue Jul 22, 2014 4:41 pm
Postby Salamence20 »
You are Mafia. You win when your team controls 50% of the vote or nothing can prevent this. You and your buddy may chat in this private topic at any time until your death.
In post 158, Dr Pants wrote:btw, if you find you and someone within your group have similar thoughts about someone external to the group, then one of you is likely scum
How is this even?
This just looks like more Town v Town pitfight fodder.
you have to lynch within your group, you probably have scum there, why assume otherwise
consider my vote still on Maru, however I don't want this day to end this quickly. No real work has gone into the Ilama group yet, and I want to hear more from Naz and N_M as well.
pedit: if you've been thinking Salamance scum, why are trying to end the day this quickly? and we ALL need to hear it, even if we have no input for today, since it becomes very relevant tomorrow
Your group is still undecided. If somebody decides to end the day within your group, I can be assured that they are scum. We lynch them, we lynch Sal, Badda bing badda boom we won.
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Post #229 (isolation #33) » Wed Jul 23, 2014 11:08 am
Postby Salamence20 »
Look, I should explain quickly.
When I wanted to take it slow, i meant skip rvs and get to the thick of it. I didnt want to interact outside of my group because there was nearly no point to influence anyone outside my group.
However, by the time ONE of my group posted, the other two groups had reads established and a lynch. I didnt want to delay the game, but right now, we need a replacement or a prod because I am bored.
I felt the espresso is town because opportunism is more null to me at this point because Ive seen scum lynched this way. That post though bugs me also the fact that i am confscum if AC flips town. There is a group without a scum target, so idk why town would say that.
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Post #266 (isolation #37) » Wed Jul 23, 2014 12:44 pm
Postby Salamence20 »
In post 259, ac1983fan wrote:Okay, I had thought that votes could be changed until all lynches were locked down. But people started saying that one of the groups already had a lynch, so I thought that my understanding was wrong.
Anyway. Dr Pants is scum.
I presently have townreads on both espresso and salamence. But I don't have a strong scumread on anyone in Grape. so I'm definitely not 100% comfortable with that.
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Post #311 (isolation #42) » Thu Jul 24, 2014 5:12 am
Postby Salamence20 »
Because you are saying I am controlling and more focused in this game, which I admit is more of a scumtell for me, but since this is like a Lylo version of mafia, I'm not trying to be rash.
Now I already said why I am voting espresso, because if he is town, someone will WIFOM him tomorrow ("The fact he slipped should be a reason he is scum"). And if he is scum, he legitimately slipped, which clears AC and I. I do not know his alignment
Idk I think I'm okay with espresso now
I would be happy with some input from A on this topic
-Tier
Well I'm pretty sure I've scumread myself before too.
I mean:
Salamence20 wrote:Because you are saying I am controlling and more focused in this game, which I admit is more of a scumtell for me, but since this is like a Lylo version of mafia, I'm not trying to be rash.
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Post #380 (isolation #51) » Sat Jul 26, 2014 6:56 pm
Postby Salamence20 »
Ok tier/aegor, this will be the last post I make for the day, I will not be posting anymore until we lynch.
First, Espresso: Let's say for hypothetical sake you and pants are mafia and I get lynched. You will follow along by saying espresso slipped and now should be lynched by killing AC. Total WIFOM.
To sum up: it is town-motivated to lynch espresso to prevent scum to manipulate espresso later.
Secondly: I don't care what you are going to say about it: persuading and scumhunting in other groups is pointless and scummy because YOU CAN NOT DIRECTLY AFFECT IT. There is almost no point in doing it (and I know I am guilty of it too), because I can hunt tomorrow based on interactions IN THE GROUP. It's like outside influences.
In post 380, Salamence20 wrote:Ok tier/aegor, this will be the last post I make for the day, I will not be posting anymore until we lynch.
First, Espresso: Let's say for hypothetical sake you and pants are mafia and I get lynched.
You will follow along by saying espresso slipped and now should be lynched by killing AC.
Total WIFOM.
To sum up: it is town-motivated to lynch espresso to prevent scum to manipulate espresso later.
Secondly: I don't care what you are going to say about it: persuading and scumhunting in other groups is pointless and scummy because YOU CAN NOT DIRECTLY AFFECT IT. There is almost no point in doing it (and I know I am guilty of it too), because I can hunt tomorrow based on interactions IN THE GROUP. It's like outside influences.
I'm done.
This part confuses me.
I get lynched
AC dies
HURR HURR ESPRESSO SLIPPED DIE
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Post #403 (isolation #54) » Sun Jul 27, 2014 1:22 pm
Postby Salamence20 »
Ummmm.
1. Yes WIFOM remember, you said it yourself: "lynch me I slipped, it's for the best"
2. It was hypothetical as in you lynch me and mafia is in the other groups, allowing them to kill AC and blame you over wifom
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Post #508 (isolation #57) » Wed Jul 30, 2014 1:37 pm
Postby Salamence20 »
If AC flips town (part of me thinks he wont, the other part wants espresso):
Espresso is a ZZZX alt
Or
Scum win because sala mislynch is optimal because... Why again? Opportunity? This game is ruined because people interacted with other people outside their group, creating massive amounts of wifom, when everyone should havr stayed in their own groups.
Its like an animal zoo, if you bring something that doesnt belong in a natrual habitat it gets tainted and ruins the obvservation.
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Post #530 (isolation #60) » Sat Aug 02, 2014 2:41 am
Postby Salamence20 »
So:
1. Scum either WIFOM'd Xay. My guess is that he is scum, because if he isn't...
2. Espresso WIFOM'd the scumslip to buy towncred, because he knew that I would noobtown read him?
3. I'm town, and I'd hope my group is the town group.