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Once again, why is this bad? RVS wagons are how the game gets started.
Also, VOTE: Grib
Why are you voting for Grib?
Let's see, I sort of like Grib depending on his response. I want more from Oddball, but they're pinging town. Eek's probably town. Shroomish is having mood whiplash and it's scummy as fuck, but I doubt he's scum with Wolfy. phokdapolees needs to answer my fucking question. Desperado's town unless Wolfy is scum.
Grib: But it wasn't very entertaining. :/
What am I?
Eh?
In post 44, fontisian wrote:Wolfy's running with false assumptions that likely come from a scum mindset. He claims to believe that there must be one scum on his wagon, even though that specific form of vote analysis doesn't apply to a quick RVS wagon. I've actually found that the people on the end of a large RVS wagon are more likely to be town, because they are reaction fishing and don't care about being scumread for their actions. There's also the fact that he cleared the first two people on his wagon, but their votes most likely being random shouldn't make them better than neutral in his mind.
Then there's his language. "It won't be all town on the wagon" is far too strong language for the situation, which implies that he was overcompensating. "So you're all town and you all voted me because of my scumtell in post 4," creates a false dichotomy, where there is either scum on his wagon or he was heavily scum read. In reality there are more likely options of reaction baiting and general trolling behavior. It also reeks of a scum irritated at being caught for the wrong reasons.
Finally, he shouldn't be making a "random" choice between me and Desperado. If he was actually trying to find scum, he would have tried to analyze our different responses to his wagon and asking questions. But he's not, because he's not actually trying to find scum.
Ding ding ding!
Yesterday I would have added that he voted you because you were the one to unvote and I assume Wolfy thought you wouldn't revote him because you're "cautious" around L-1 (which you are apparently). So he doesn't have to fear you revoting. His reason for voting you is also underwhelming. I expected at least a "pressure" reason (because you might be prone to pressure (due to your cautionness over L-1)), but it's just random.
The "randomness" of his vote on font doesn't sit right with me. I don't know, but I expected at least something.
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Post #73 (isolation #9) » Thu Jul 17, 2014 2:55 am
Postby My Milked Eek »
"Blatant" misrep? lol
If Wolfy says there has to be scum in 4 people on his wagon and he then says that it can't be the first two. How are those two not being cleared by wolfy?
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Post #115 (isolation #17) » Thu Jul 17, 2014 9:24 pm
Postby My Milked Eek »
So, I'm pretty sure about my town reads;
Town:
font
grib
phok
desp
Scum:
wolfy
Shroomish is in the "Eh?" pile. I don't like his defense of wolfy, but it's not something I'd see scum do. So I'm not sure where to put him, so for now he gets his very own private pile.
And me makes for 7 players, which means I'm forgetting two players, I'd say one of them is scum. Just looked and it's insanity and oddball I'm forgetting. Out of those two, I'd guess it's insanity.
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Post #120 (isolation #19) » Thu Jul 17, 2014 10:19 pm
Postby My Milked Eek »
And yes, I know you're making a very stupid reference to you clearing me and insanity. They're entirely different, but if it makes you feel better, you can think that they're practically the same.
Thanks for confirming that you did clear insanity and me though!
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Post #123 (isolation #20) » Thu Jul 17, 2014 10:50 pm
Postby My Milked Eek »
Stupid argument about semantics and you're ignoring the actual situation while trying to get "victories" about semantics. Yes, that's the definition of "to clear". Did you really want me to argue that? Is that going to be your grand victory? Semantics?
Not to mention that you can never really clear anyone until they're dead or until after the game. So stop this bullshit semantics argument.
The intention on your end was very obvious: insanity and myself couldn't be scum in your eyes. Probability and certainty aside: you made a clear (hhehehe) statement about our alignment:
In post 123, My Milked Eek wrote:Stupid argument about semantics and you're ignoring the actual situation while trying to get "victories" about semantics. Yes, that's the definition of "to clear".
so now it's semantics.
I never cleared you. You insisted I did. I didn't raise the word clear - you did. And now it's semantics.
You pick up on individual words and phrases people use as though they are important, but as soon as it doesn't suit you anymore it becomes semantics.
The whole game is
about
semantics - that's why we post. Do I have to define that word for you as well?
And don't act as if I made it about semantics, it's what you've been doing all this time. The fucking baseline remains the same:
you excluded us from your "one scum on the wagon" game.
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Post #134 (isolation #24) » Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:21 am
Postby My Milked Eek »
It's not about his vote. If you think it's about who he voted, then you haven't been reading with enough attention.
He made a conscious choice when he said that one scum was on the wagon and that it had to be in [desp|font]. It's not about who he voted in that subgroup, it's about the fact that he made that decision.
In post 219, Wolfy wrote:So, at last I get a night off from ritual slaughter of innocent creatures.
Now I need to find a random set of names, clear some of them and then randomly vote between the others. VOTE: Desperado
only for being V/LA. Absolutely not because he was in both sets of my previous random suspects.
Eek and font are both solid town. I love you guys really. No way they'd tunnel like that on me if they were scum.
Slightly worried about insanity (because it runs in the family)
I just know you're doing this on purpose, but that's a crappy vote especially given your worries about insanity.
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Post #290 (isolation #46) » Tue Jul 29, 2014 1:52 am
Postby My Milked Eek »
I'm looking for the English word that describes what I think of your play...
Accommodating? But that seems off. But it's the word that comes to mind. You know what I mean, not trying to butt heads, apologetic. Neutral might be a good choice. Not wanting to "annoy" other players towards you. I first noticed it when I called you out on voting oddball and you quoting that one quote where you didn't see the post before the one you quoted. You really felt... accomodating there, I felt you had a desire to be neutral, to be unnoticed or at least not noticed in a bad light.
I should probably make this more concrete and quit mumbling.
So, you are thinking that both Shroomish and FunSizedOddball are town?
p-edit: Why?
I already made my stances clear on both those players: oddball is a gut town read and I believe shroomish is a watcher, alignment unknown, but he can live for another day imo.
I think Eek is scum because of the same reason as Grib, and I think font is scum because of reasons already stated, and I don't think that there are more than two scum in this game. That's where I got that from.
Why are you so certain that Grib is town that you're willing to blatantly defend and sheep him?
P-edit: Nooo! You just stopped me from having 4 posts in a row (that would have been a personal record!)
Serious p-edit: More for the second point. It shows self consciousness and being worried about being scum read.
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Post #296 (isolation #50) » Tue Jul 29, 2014 2:03 am
Postby My Milked Eek »
And not to mention you somewhat lied in that sequence (just noticed that):
"Nobody mentioned you being scum in the time between your last post and this one." ~ insanity when voting oddball
Also, the unvote was really trying to appeal. Why? Because you mentioned perfectly valid reasons to vote oddball in your unvote post:
"I haven't seen him really try to scum hunt but that could be newbishness as much as scummy then."
The fact that you're not voting insinuates that you think he a newbie (no offence oddball). It also indicates no real desire to try and find out. There's no scumhunting happening on your end.
No, what happened is that you got caught on a lie (albeit a small one), but you overreacted and appealed too hard.
I have already openly stated that I did not see Grib's question. Then, why wouldn't I unvote if the main reason I voted for FunSized was no longer valid?
First of, don't call an interpretation a misrepresentation.
Secondly, pressure. The line you posted after you unvoted is a perfectly valid reason to vote. You're not scumhunting, you're just waiting for a reason to vote someone.
This is the line I'm talking about:
I haven't seen him really try to scum hunt but that could be newbishness as much as scummy then.
This tells me a few things:
1. You think oddball isn't scumhunting.
2. You don't know if he's a newb or scum.
3. You don't want to find out which one of the two he is.