The rumors are true! I am here!
I am channeling my inner Peregrine!!!
But let me give this game a quick skim.
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The rumors are true! I am here!
Agreed.In post 28, Dunnstral wrote: VOTE: Random Nurse
Their contribution thus far feels like they are repeating the setup out loud rather than offering anything to work with.
In post 31, imaginality wrote: 30% random chance of the true cop getting a guilty and living to claim it if we lim N1 (2/5 x 3/4)
If we no lim:
(2/6 x 4/5) = 26.3% chance true cop can claim a guilty after N1
4/5 x 30% = 24% chance true cop can claim a guilty N2 (a bit less though as hypoclaims help scum narrow down their NK target)
Plus some marginal extra utility from inno claims
Yeah, I think it makes sense
VOTE: No Lim
In post 32, imaginality wrote: Especially considering we're not getting the most juice out of today
Seriously, pretty much never no lim on D1, Sheep makes a great point hereIn post 34, sheepsaysmeep wrote: meh idk
I think gameplaywise, doing a d1 where people try to lim other people is necessary. informationally
otherwise youre in lylo and you have some results but youre just completely guessing among the other people because the game only really starts then
In post 55, Random Nurse wrote:In post 54, Dunnstral wrote: But bullet points 3 to 5 don't look like your play this game just through your own admission
It's Day 1 and it's only page 3.
I like Dunn here, you can't give bullet points on your gameplay then get upset when you get faulted for your hypocrisy.In post 56, Dunnstral wrote: Yeah but you said you use "consistent extreme engagement" and that it is easy to do as town.
What in the actual fuck.In post 65, Political Clout wrote:i deliberately didn't say I was at -1 because I wanted to see what people would say and do, why didn't you?In post 63, imaginality wrote: VOTE: PC
I disagree with heip (though I do townread heip) - I don't think town are likely to risk self voting to put themselves at E-1 on D1 of a micro.
Also the proposed strategy of all claiming role and target D1 is a great way to ensure we never get a guilty and if scum don't happen to be targeted by the right type, then the NK could seriously mislead us D2.
and secondly it's a proposed strategy you can dislike it and it doesn't mean you have to follow it if you think not claiming a target is better then that's fine simply don't claim a target? it feels like a crazy nitpick to me coupled with the fact that you saying it makes me think it's a reason for voting me. Like hey this part of your strategy doesn't make sense but like you don't have to use that part of the strategy.
VOTE: imaginality
I'm am claiming cop and will be checking someone tonight.
Was more about page 4 and 5.In post 128, Dunnstral wrote:I think it only looks like this because the rate of posting is so slow so they stand out as having more posts.In post 125, Doctor Drew wrote: I do kinda feel Sheep is trying to control the gamestate a bit too much, not sure if it is a thing......or just them wanting to inject some action into the game(which I get).
Lol, you are my initial top town read(maybe you could substitute Dunn) as I repped in. I don't see a scenario where I would vote you today.In post 138, sheepsaysmeep wrote: I think towny to scummy is like dunn>imag>nurse>drew
like I dont like this line idkIn post 125, Doctor Drew wrote: I do kinda feel Sheep is trying to control the gamestate a bit too much, not sure if it is a thing......or just them wanting to inject some action into the game(which I get).
omgus I guess
it just feels like it sneaks some shade in in caseee I need to be limmed someday for not good justifiable reason (I struggle a little to empathize with seeing my trying to make things happen as trying to control the gamestate in a certain direction)
There is a part of me just saying do it right now.
UNVOTE:
Remember when PC claimed cop?In post 167, sheepsaysmeep wrote: why is this the lim for today?
Your inclinations would be wrong.In post 174, sheepsaysmeep wrote: to be honest doctor drew my inclinations here are that you are the person I'd want to vote
Would lean Imaginalty.In post 175, sheepsaysmeep wrote:what are your inclinations doctor drewIn post 174, sheepsaysmeep wrote: to be honest doctor drew my inclinations here are that you are the person I'd want to vote
Can you elaborate on the last part here?In post 242, Political Clout wrote:You are going to hang on to that point like a babe sticks to his blanket. I already said why you saying it's weird it's not traditional it's not optimal, therefore it is scum is a huuuuuuuuuuge leap. you are engaging in pointless hypothetical and are pointing to me being morally lucky as scum.In post 233, imaginality wrote:This is a good point, it was a dangerous play for a VT to do (given how early in the day it was,In post 216, sheepsaysmeep wrote: I was gonna call the PC early self-vote to be town cuz it seems like scum would be more scared of being lolhammered than town would be
but with today's hindsight it doesnt seem like a seer would put themselves at e-1???? hmm lolimagine how little we'd have to go on today if someone did quicklim), but even more so as a PR.
Also, when PC sorta-claimed cop imagine if cop cc-ed. That would have been an absolute clusterfuck no matter who we limmed. It makes sense as scum though.
also think about what image is basically saying like look back on day 1 townfolk and just engage in hypothetical and wifom until you consider what pc did as scum motivated imagine if the actual cop cc'd imagine if he was quicklimmed. like this is pointless and boring. none of that happened. I was successful in hiding n1 and I was lucky that you were a wolf and not a mafioso. You got caught that's it.
JUST THINK HOW LITTLE WE WOULD HAVE IF SOMEONE DID QUICKLIM??????? this presupposes that I'm seer you just outed yourself hello?
Gotcha now.In post 246, Political Clout wrote:image is saying imagine if someone quicklimmed PC what would we have to go on today.In post 244, Doctor Drew wrote:Can you elaborate on the last part here?In post 242, Political Clout wrote:You are going to hang on to that point like a babe sticks to his blanket. I already said why you saying it's weird it's not traditional it's not optimal, therefore it is scum is a huuuuuuuuuuge leap. you are engaging in pointless hypothetical and are pointing to me being morally lucky as scum.In post 233, imaginality wrote:This is a good point, it was a dangerous play for a VT to do (given how early in the day it was,In post 216, sheepsaysmeep wrote: I was gonna call the PC early self-vote to be town cuz it seems like scum would be more scared of being lolhammered than town would be
but with today's hindsight it doesnt seem like a seer would put themselves at e-1???? hmm lolimagine how little we'd have to go on today if someone did quicklim), but even more so as a PR.
Also, when PC sorta-claimed cop imagine if cop cc-ed. That would have been an absolute clusterfuck no matter who we limmed. It makes sense as scum though.
also think about what image is basically saying like look back on day 1 townfolk and just engage in hypothetical and wifom until you consider what pc did as scum motivated imagine if the actual cop cc'd imagine if he was quicklimmed. like this is pointless and boring. none of that happened. I was successful in hiding n1 and I was lucky that you were a wolf and not a mafioso. You got caught that's it.
JUST THINK HOW LITTLE WE WOULD HAVE IF SOMEONE DID QUICKLIM??????? this presupposes that I'm seer you just outed yourself hello?
In post 250, imaginality wrote: Oh, I just realised how PC knew I was probably Seer before PC fakeclaimed Seer with guilty on me.
Sheep Dunn and Drew had already posted today before PC claimed and none of them hypoclaimed or even started a discussion of whether to carry on with hypoclaiming despite Cop flip. That was probably already a reasonable clue they're VT and therefore I was most likely the Seer.
Starting to feel like you are just trying to throw things at the wall, hoping any theory sticks now.In post 251, imaginality wrote: I can't out-post PC, see no value in arguing with them directly, and don't want the decent points I've raised lost in a haystack.
I'll check in periodically today and answer questions from others though.
I think 149-150-151 is interesting to consider if that could be scumbuddies or not. And 219-230 is this misread of my post a sign Dunn knows PC is guilty or genuine misread?
Right now I think the PC fakeclaim gambit is riskier in a mafia world than a werewolf world (where outing the Seer has clear value) so I lean town on Drew given my inno. So I think PC's partner is Dunn or sheep, and more likely Dunn.
I mean, you can't leave yourself out of the lim pool, that just sounds sketchy as fuck.In post 269, Dunnstral wrote:I think you could have claimed a guilty on imaginality without being the real seer. The cop died so that was the only thing to claim.In post 266, Political Clout wrote:justify this because I don't see any progression at all. It feels a lot like while towns away the scum will play. imag starts posting and then you start posting about me being scum makes me worried about prior communication in a private pt.In post 263, Dunnstral wrote: I've changed my mind and am leaning towards imaginality being the real seer and Political Clout being mafia. I do think it is possible for Political Clout to have guessed imaginality see based on the way the rest of us acted - I am usually more careful with revealing role info but don't feel like I did due diligence this day 2.
If you are mafia then you could have been trying to get reactions for the cop which could have been the actual important investigative role.
I might be willing to vote between dr drew and sheep today on the basis that a flip of mafia instead of wolf could give more info. And we already have the game split into 2 categories: you/imaginality and me/drew/sheep.
Maybe you just worded it weird, but you set it up like the lim is between myself and sheep......not you.I might be willing to vote between dr drew and sheeptoday on the basis that a flip of mafia instead of wolf could give more info. And we already have the game split into 2 categories: you/imaginality and me/drew/sheep.
I wanted things to organically happen, but i get it lol.In post 275, sheepsaysmeep wrote: Drew u need to be talking about what ur thinking lmao
Faceplam emoji unintentional lol.In post 280, Doctor Drew wrote:I wanted things to organically happen, but i get it lol.In post 275, sheepsaysmeep wrote: Drew u need to be talking about what ur thinking lmao
I am leaning towards PC as scum.
Kinda feel the PC/Dunn things here recently is theater.......especially with Dunn wanting to only lim between myself and you.
And ya, Dunn, you wouldn't want to vote yourself......but as town you would have worded it differently. I feel you were trying to setup the mis-elim.
I didn't push you, explicitly saying the lim should be between Sheep and I is a scum play, I just pointed it out.In post 306, Dunnstral wrote:As I pointed out, if we eliminate drew and they flip mafia that means it has to be PC due to their claim.In post 304, sheepsaysmeep wrote: Dunn is there anything that u think associativeky makes pc or imag more/less likely to be paired with drew? What do u think of me thinking it seems like drew/imag
Think about it. Day 1 PC claims cop. Let's say they are the anti-town: on day 1 there isn't a difference between claiming cop or seer, except for their own role and knowing if the scum faction is mafia/wolves. If PC is scum, and is fake claiming on day 1, there is potential for somebody to counter claim it. It therefore makes sense, to me, that they'd be claiming the role that would find their own faction.
In conclusion, I think that if PC is scum, they are more likely to be mafia than a wolf. This would make imaginality's result not mean anything.
As for what they've done this day phase? I thought Drew talking about my word choice and then PC saying that was a bad read felt a bit like distancing. I am leaning towards it being PC and Drew right now and I feel they have both started pushing me this day phase after I changed my mind.
Well now I do believe you should be the elimination, what led me to believe that is you explicitly said the lim should be between myself and Sheep.....you wanted to pull yourself out of the lim pool.In post 313, Dunnstral wrote:Your argument is that I should have said I should be the eliminationIn post 308, Doctor Drew wrote:I didn't push you, explicitly saying the lim should be between Sheep and I is a scum play, I just pointed it out.In post 306, Dunnstral wrote:As I pointed out, if we eliminate drew and they flip mafia that means it has to be PC due to their claim.In post 304, sheepsaysmeep wrote: Dunn is there anything that u think associativeky makes pc or imag more/less likely to be paired with drew? What do u think of me thinking it seems like drew/imag
Think about it. Day 1 PC claims cop. Let's say they are the anti-town: on day 1 there isn't a difference between claiming cop or seer, except for their own role and knowing if the scum faction is mafia/wolves. If PC is scum, and is fake claiming on day 1, there is potential for somebody to counter claim it. It therefore makes sense, to me, that they'd be claiming the role that would find their own faction.
In conclusion, I think that if PC is scum, they are more likely to be mafia than a wolf. This would make imaginality's result not mean anything.
As for what they've done this day phase? I thought Drew talking about my word choice and then PC saying that was a bad read felt a bit like distancing. I am leaning towards it being PC and Drew right now and I feel they have both started pushing me this day phase after I changed my mind.
Ya, I am limitlessIn post 322, Political Clout wrote:Wanting to limit drew immediately now when we still have a lot of time left.In post 317, Dunnstral wrote: How am I bloodthirsty?
Dunn is scum. End of story.In post 325, Political Clout wrote:It feels like everyone is sort of in limbo rn. But probably I'm going to do less than imag because I can't use my laptop rn. And it feels like everyone who isn't dunn is treading carefully for some reason. Like from Dunn's pov he has solved the game so really nothing needs to be done except for push the people they think are scum but it is clear to me and I hope everyone that he has come up with that conclusion extremely fast and is saying crazy things like if sheep votes drew they are more than happy to vote drew with them. Drew isn't asking me any questions and neither is sheep so idk. Drew has said they like imag over me so that concerns me a lot since you are trying to kill him and he isn't saying anything about it like is drew giving up and I'm wrong about Dunn??? since I'm probably just a gut read for drew I would like drew to justify his scum read.In post 324, Dunnstral wrote:What do you plan to do with our remaining time?In post 322, Political Clout wrote:Wanting to limit drew immediately now when we still have a lot of time left.In post 317, Dunnstral wrote: How am I bloodthirsty?