Micro 1082 - I’m the Real Tracker (Day 4)
-
-
Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
- Twilight Princess
- Twilight Princess
- Posts: 14189
- Joined: January 27, 2023
- Pronoun: she/her
Hi everyone!
-
-
Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
- Twilight Princess
- Twilight Princess
- Posts: 14189
- Joined: January 27, 2023
- Pronoun: she/her
I tried to skim but this game started fast on page 1
Let me get my coffee and then I'll digest everything-
-
Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
- Twilight Princess
- Twilight Princess
- Posts: 14189
- Joined: January 27, 2023
- Pronoun: she/her
9 and 10 - this exchange made me lol. I'm sad I had to replace Merlyn instead of getting to play with her
13 - I don't like Jason pushing for D2 claims right out of the gate, even when I read it in an Australian accent
17 - this is the post that made me grab coffee. Reading it through...this makes more sense than what I thought Jason was getting at in #13 which was full claims. Anyone that has played with me knows I'm not a mech person at all so I don't know if this is the best play. It feels like having the information out there without the PRs having to hard claim would be good though
19 - this claim feels unnecessary. One thing confuses me:
What do you mean here? Maybe I'm not understanding the setup correctly. Pretenders know they are pretenders, right?In post 19, Bingle wrote: If I get no neighborhood, I will be taking this as confirmation that I'm a faker.
21 - wanting to end the day in a no-lim on page 1 is scummy af
23 - this feels like a fake realization, and followed by a massclaim proposal this just feels really bad
24 - I think Jason feels scummy here for the policy lim comment. Scum want to get rid of claimed roles. This angle makes sense for scum!Jason because then he wouldn't have to waste a NK on Bingle
28 - this feels like leading the Doc a little
39 - another no lim/cut the discussion post. How could this possibly be good for town? I know I said I'm not a mech person but cutting discussion short seems like it would be harmful in any setup
41 - I like this post from Delta and I agree
42 - my own slot comes in with a meta read on Kowah. Ok. This context helps a little I think
44 - oh no. Delta is getting into a language argument again lol. No, I don't think Merlyn's phrasing was scummy, but I may be a little informed
47, 48, and 49 - these feel a little weird from Appearance. I think it's just #49 actually. This reads "don't track me"
64 - feels weird and a little sheepy from PC
65 - this feels like Kowah is trending in the right direction as far as letting discussion develop before ending the day but I still think no limming is a bad idea. We should definitely yeet a scumread today
67 - I like this from Don and it indicates that he's really thinking about the game and the setup
70 - "pretenders who were told they were neighbors" ...ok so I'm assuming I'm misunderstanding the setup and Pretenders aren't told they are Pretenders. I think it was the sample role PM that made me think this? Idk
74 and 75 - these two Don posts give me town vibes
80 - I like this perspective from Bingle re: Kowah's two games. I townread the effort he's putting into solving this whole no-lim thing
88 - starting to feel like this is town!Delta here
93 - I'm not really a big fan of Bingle just accepting the "your posts feel fake" claim and not asking Kowah to elaborate
95 - this post feels scummy to me. There's an informed air about it. I agree that Delta feels town so far but Jason seems to have way more conviction here which doesn't really make sense to me. Also I don't get the Kowah TR at all, and the Bingle read is a little fence-sitty. It feels like Jason is going after Invis for poor reasons here
Felt. But I'm trying...In post 98, Invisibility wrote: I have nothing to say about mechanical stuff cuz I am bad at mechanical stuff
102 - this feels like a town post from Invis
113 - I agree with the bulk of this and I townread this analysis
Are we reading the same game? Merlyn said that particular behavior wasn't scum indicative but where did she say she was convinced Kowah was not scum?In post 132, Deltabreedy wrote:
How would Town!Merlyn be so convinced NotScum!Kowah through purely meta? What's the benefit for Town!Merlyn in doing this?In post 109, Invisibility wrote: Delta, what was scummy about Merlyn clearing Kowah of scumhood, as you put it?
135 - agreed-
-
Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
- Twilight Princess
- Twilight Princess
- Posts: 14189
- Joined: January 27, 2023
- Pronoun: she/her
Relax! My catch ups take timeIn post 164, Bingle wrote:
Hell of a coffee.In post 160, Black wrote: Let me get my coffee and then I'll digest everything-
-
Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
- Twilight Princess
- Twilight Princess
- Posts: 14189
- Joined: January 27, 2023
- Pronoun: she/her
Yeah well so much for that...In post 19, Bingle wrote: I will be randomly targeting a player who is not me..This is the extent of the mechanical discussion we need D1-
-
Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
- Twilight Princess
- Twilight Princess
- Posts: 14189
- Joined: January 27, 2023
- Pronoun: she/her
I think this is where I stand after reading
Black
Donempire
Bingle
Deltabreedy
Invisibility
Political Clout
Appearance
JasonWazza
Kowahbunga
VOTE: Kowah-
-
Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
- Twilight Princess
- Twilight Princess
- Posts: 14189
- Joined: January 27, 2023
- Pronoun: she/her
I'm a little surprised by this answer. I guess I just thought that you would know better since you seem pretty experiencedIn post 170, Invisibility wrote:
yeah I was just trusting that everyone else knew what they were talking about LOLIn post 165, Black wrote: another no lim/cut the discussion post. How could this possibly be good for town? I know I said I'm not a mech person but cutting discussion short seems like it would be harmful in any setup-
-
Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
- Twilight Princess
- Twilight Princess
- Posts: 14189
- Joined: January 27, 2023
- Pronoun: she/her
I don't really think not pushing anyone 40 posts into the game is scummy tbhIn post 172, Invisibility wrote:
does this include the part about Kowah being scummy for not pushing anything else?In post 165, Black wrote: I like this post from Delta and I agree-
-
Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
- Twilight Princess
- Twilight Princess
- Posts: 14189
- Joined: January 27, 2023
- Pronoun: she/her
Don't you think it would make more sense for the RB to block who they think is scum? I mean yeah if they are wrong then they potentially block a useful role, but I still think that's a better play than blocking someone you townreadIn post 183, Donempire wrote:
Sure, if he is neighbour then he has no use for his night action. If he isn't and is faking it for some reason, then obviously roleblocker should also be on him as he wouldn't be trustworthy.In post 181, Invisibility wrote:
they should?In post 176, Donempire wrote: But yes, most roles especially roleblockers should be on jingle no matter what.
Besides, roleblocker has a 1/8 chance of stopping the night kill. Much higher likelihood of stopping an usefull role like inspector or loyal checker than stopping mafias kill, meaning we're not giving up an invaluable asset with our n1 roleblock either. Of course all these are assuming a town roleblocker.-
-
Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
- Twilight Princess
- Twilight Princess
- Posts: 14189
- Joined: January 27, 2023
- Pronoun: she/her
I understand that. I still think the RB should only block Bingle if they think he is scum thoughIn post 187, Appearance wrote: agreed.
though, bingle has claimed a weak pr and other seeking neighbor can always target him.-
-
Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
- Twilight Princess
- Twilight Princess
- Posts: 14189
- Joined: January 27, 2023
- Pronoun: she/her
Maybe it's a playstyle thing but I'm never this sure about someone based on meta alone. Don't let Delta being third on my list confuse you about where I stand. I think he could definitely be scum still. You don't seem to think so and I read that type of conviction as informed, especially this early in a gameIn post 188, JasonWazza wrote: Are you really scum reading me for having conviction that this is Delta Town?
And when Delta is your third town read to boot?
What the fuck?
Can you explain your Kowah townread?-
-
Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
- Twilight Princess
- Twilight Princess
- Posts: 14189
- Joined: January 27, 2023
- Pronoun: she/her
I don't think the RB'er should ever block someone they think is town. Do you?In post 197, JasonWazza wrote:
Why does Town!Bingle need to not be RB'd in your mind?In post 195, Black wrote:
I understand that. I still think the RB should only block Bingle if they think he is scum thoughIn post 187, Appearance wrote: agreed.
though, bingle has claimed a weak pr and other seeking neighbor can always target him.
I think putting our RB in a useful spot for all of town isn't a bad idea, If Bingle is Town, we give all our PR's a night to use their power, If Bingle is Scum, we openly force the other scum member to also not use their role to get a kill off.-
-
Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
- Twilight Princess
- Twilight Princess
- Posts: 14189
- Joined: January 27, 2023
- Pronoun: she/her
Uhh I'm not sure what I'm missing here but how a person plays as either alignment is exactly what a meta read isIn post 200, JasonWazza wrote: Like just to be clear, knowing someone's personality and taking it out of your thinking isn't a Meta read, it's just not being stupid and ignoring how that person plays.-
-
Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
- Twilight Princess
- Twilight Princess
- Posts: 14189
- Joined: January 27, 2023
- Pronoun: she/her
In post 81, JasonWazza wrote: Kowah hasn't done much D1 here to go off, personality seems the same, i don't think he has done anything read worthy at this point though.
Though that's also coming from someone that uses Meta mostly as a rule out of reads rather then a generator of reads.
You townread Kowah because his personality feels the same as his last game and you townread Delta because he plays more confrontational as town. These are the definition of meta readsIn post 110, JasonWazza wrote:
Town Delta is way more confrontational then Scum Delta, could be playing to meta, but i think it's good enough for this early.In post 100, Invisibility wrote: like describe what you see here specifically in Delta town cuz it is not as obvious as you think it is
though 105 feels a bit wonky even then, though Delta has a habit of arguing semantics a lot.
Honestly I have no clue what we are even arguing about anymore. Are you always this defensive when someone scumreads you?-
-
Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
- Twilight Princess
- Twilight Princess
- Posts: 14189
- Joined: January 27, 2023
- Pronoun: she/her
I think there is a misunderstanding here. I'm talking about 81. You said "personality seems the same" so I assumed you were townreading him because his personality seemed the same as his last game. I'm sorry if I misunderstood-
-
Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
- Twilight Princess
- Twilight Princess
- Posts: 14189
- Joined: January 27, 2023
- Pronoun: she/her
Yeah I already admitted there was a misunderstanding here. I couldn't figure out why you TR'd Kowah and I think I attributed that comment to it by accidentIn post 211, JasonWazza wrote: And frankly this one is bad considering the sorts of things your posting (like somehow getting a Town Read for Kowah in a post where i said i literally have no read on Kowah)
I'm not voting you. And that's only one of the reasons I scumread you tbh. Admittedly it's not a very strong reasonIn post 211, JasonWazza wrote: Your reasoning for voting me is Conviction, and that is just an objectively bad reason to scum read someone (like in what world would that ever not be a Personality tell?).
It was 100 posts in the game. If you had other reasons to TR Delta I assumed you would have included them there. But I accept your explanation of wanting to keep your reads close to your chestIn post 211, JasonWazza wrote: And the sort of posts you pull up, that Kowah one is before i town read Kowah, and i don't see why you would assume that 110 is the only reason i have to read Delta as town (which as a point, sounds like someone that does actually have TMI).
I think you're a little too focused on the conviction thingIn post 211, JasonWazza wrote: Which also, those posts don't even really have conviction in them, you literally used posts where I'm either not having a read (no conviction) or where I'm even calling out something else Delta did (how is this conviction?)-
-
Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
- Twilight Princess
- Twilight Princess
- Posts: 14189
- Joined: January 27, 2023
- Pronoun: she/her
Absolutely-
-
Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
- Twilight Princess
- Twilight Princess
- Posts: 14189
- Joined: January 27, 2023
- Pronoun: she/her
I don't like this. Why is Bingle scummy for focusing on the setup but Jason is town?In post 224, Political Clout wrote: I like jason for town and delta slight town
I think you bingle are focusing a lot a lot on the setup slightly scummy-
-
Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
- Twilight Princess
- Twilight Princess
- Posts: 14189
- Joined: January 27, 2023
- Pronoun: she/her
I don't see how that could be alignment indicative at allIn post 225, Political Clout wrote:
do you think it's alignment indicative bingle said they like to review games or are they just enthusiastic about the setup?In post 167, Black wrote:
Yeah well so much for that...In post 19, Bingle wrote: I will be randomly targeting a player who is not me..This is the extent of the mechanical discussion we need D1-
-
Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
- Twilight Princess
- Twilight Princess
- Posts: 14189
- Joined: January 27, 2023
- Pronoun: she/her
Yeah that part of the setup I do understand. That conversation was assuming town!RBIn post 227, Political Clout wrote: alignments are random and roles are random-
-
Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
- Twilight Princess
- Twilight Princess
- Posts: 14189
- Joined: January 27, 2023
- Pronoun: she/her
Idk. Maybe this is just a difference in personal mafia theory. I consider the possibility of stopping the night kill worth the risk of potentially blocking a town PR. I don't think I would ever block a townread tbhIn post 234, Donempire wrote: Scum don't have usefull powerroles. You could argue inspector and tracker have utility, but town has far more use for them. Even if roleblocker rbs a mafia power it would do no good if that was a mafia doctor. It has to be the mafkilling otherwise it's useless.
Point is, town needs their results tonight, scum might not-
-
Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
- Twilight Princess
- Twilight Princess
- Posts: 14189
- Joined: January 27, 2023
- Pronoun: she/her
Quoting this for posterityIn post 240, Bingle wrote: IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT EVERY PLAYER CHOOSE THEIR OWN TARGETS, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THAT TARGET IS ME. This denies scum access to the thought processes of the roles to scum.-
-
Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
- Twilight Princess
- Twilight Princess
- Posts: 14189
- Joined: January 27, 2023
- Pronoun: she/her
In post 249, Kowahbunga wrote:
I would hammer it right now if I could.In post 226, Political Clout wrote:
why didn't you warn kowah then that his actions were helping scum? and I feel like you are assuming a lot in kowah's intentions like he did x so y must be true it doesn't follow logically. In fact his inconsistency does give me pause let me do y but do x instead. I think that itself is worth exploring. at what point does someone go from 'spitballing' to advocating?In post 175, Donempire wrote:
I don't like meta reading someone if they are used to doing scummy things as town. The reason people including me were suspect on his no-lim gameplan was because it would be forcing town into hibernation. Playing the game simply in mechanical terms would only benefit scum here. If that is how he plays as town!kowah, then we need to warn him that this helps scum and be suspicious of him anyways as the facts of the matter dont change. And fwiw, i don't buy meta reads, so i'm plainly reading people as per their actions, not their intentions.In post 56, Merlyn wrote:
Delta, why did you answer Invis's question and not mine?
But my statement is backed up by something- Kowah doing this as town in our previous game together. You were actually there too, though you replaced out pretty early, but I think you were still around when Kowah started advocating a D1 no lim policy there too.
I don't believe spitballing ideas itself is scummy. However i don't believe kowah has done enough to convince us of his game plan, which also with him abandoning his no-lim idea as he votes bingle makes it seem as though he wasn't that committed to it in the first place and was just saying it to get some content out.
@ kowah how attached are you to no limming day 1?
There is a disconnect in your thought process here. You say you would hammer a no-lim right now but then you go on to say that you don't really want to lose information this game. Do you not consider ending the Day on page 10 a loss of information? Because I do. Cutting discussion short like this would only benefit scumIn post 259, Kowahbunga wrote:
I guess what scares me most, and is likely entirely unavoidable, is the potential of lost information this game. It's going to happen, and I just don't want it to. Reading this post makes me no longer feel a mass claim is a good idea today. I stand by a no lim.In post 252, Bingle wrote:
I mean, technically we could massclaim, determine which roles contained pretender slots lim one of those roles and have a pretty good shot at publicly outing pretenders on D2. That would also be a very stupid plan.In post 250, Kowahbunga wrote:
Isn't this literally impossible to do without their flips? Not even scum can know who is a pretender until the flip. In fact, one of the scum could even be a pretender. So this post seems very odd.In post 231, JasonWazza wrote: Also another News Flash for Bingle, outing the Pretenders early, isn't actually good for town.-
-
Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
- Twilight Princess
- Twilight Princess
- Posts: 14189
- Joined: January 27, 2023
- Pronoun: she/her
Is that it?In post 265, Donempire wrote: Huh. I'm at l-1 i believe. Didn't know you guys hated me this much...
Fwiw I townread your slot pretty heavily and I think it's obvious there'sat leastone scum pushing you rn. Maybe two but that seems risky tbh. If you really are town then who do you think is scum on your wagon?-
-
Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
- Twilight Princess
- Twilight Princess
- Posts: 14189
- Joined: January 27, 2023
- Pronoun: she/her
Also I'm not sure if this needs to be said but please announce intent to hammer before doing so-
-
Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
- Twilight Princess
- Twilight Princess
- Posts: 14189
- Joined: January 27, 2023
- Pronoun: she/her
This is the only read I don't get. PC's reads don't really mesh with mine and I also don't really like how he jumped on your wagonIn post 273, Donempire wrote: I would also say that political clout is a townlean for now. I might elaborate if needed.-
-
Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
- Twilight Princess
- Twilight Princess
- Posts: 14189
- Joined: January 27, 2023
- Pronoun: she/her
Hi Drew!
-
-
Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
- Twilight Princess
- Twilight Princess
- Posts: 14189
- Joined: January 27, 2023
- Pronoun: she/her
Nah, I'm just a dummyIn post 286, Doctor Drew wrote: This post by Black jumps out at me, like in my soul it feels like role phishing
Why do you scumread Don? And what do you think about Kowah?-
-
Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
- Twilight Princess
- Twilight Princess
- Posts: 14189
- Joined: January 27, 2023
- Pronoun: she/her
Too bad! She's mine :pIn post 288, Doctor Drew wrote: Also, I tried to sub into Merlyn's slot.....but you beat me too it Black lol.-
-
Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
- Twilight Princess
- Twilight Princess
- Posts: 14189
- Joined: January 27, 2023
- Pronoun: she/her
No offense but are you reading my posts? I haven't liked Kowah since I replaced in. I had him at the bottom of my reads list after my catch up and I'm voting for him. I think the disconnect is probably scum, yeah, and I don't think I'm being brutal about it like you're claimingIn post 297, Political Clout wrote: do you think the disconnect is scum because you are pretty brutal with admonishing him but don't assign a town/scum value. why not?-
-
Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
- Twilight Princess
- Twilight Princess
- Posts: 14189
- Joined: January 27, 2023
- Pronoun: she/her
How? There's a contradiction in Kowah's words and his actions. I don't think I'm fabricating anything about thatIn post 298, Doctor Drew wrote: This post really seems like you are trying to make a case when it isn't there Black.
I don't understand why...I think it's pretty obvious how I feel about KowahIn post 298, Doctor Drew wrote: And I do like PC's question here.-
-
Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
- Twilight Princess
- Twilight Princess
- Posts: 14189
- Joined: January 27, 2023
- Pronoun: she/her
Did you miss my reads post too or what? Because it kinda feels like you were trying to shade me for no reason just nowIn post 303, Political Clout wrote: I don't think you should discount your original position Dr. if how you felt is x it is incorrect for black to say well I felt y a long time ago it doesn't change the fact of the interaction in fact it makes your observation more relevant imo.-
-
Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
- Twilight Princess
- Twilight Princess
- Posts: 14189
- Joined: January 27, 2023
- Pronoun: she/her
I mean I'm not 100% convinced Kowah is scum, but I figured it was clear that I didn't like the disconnect. I'm trying to engage with him to read him betterIn post 305, Political Clout wrote:
okay...but I still stand by my post let's say I agree that you aren't being harsh. what is the point of your post then because it really isn't clear. let's even say that everything you said about kowah in the post was true. it still doesn't answer how you actually feel about it. If i say this post indicates x. it doesn't really say anything without me also saying therefore y must be true.In post 299, Black wrote:
No offense but are you reading my posts? I haven't liked Kowah since I replaced in. I had him at the bottom of my reads list after my catch up and I'm voting for him. I think the disconnect is probably scum, yeah, and I don't think I'm being brutal about it like you're claimingIn post 297, Political Clout wrote: do you think the disconnect is scum because you are pretty brutal with admonishing him but don't assign a town/scum value. why not?-
-
Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
- Twilight Princess
- Twilight Princess
- Posts: 14189
- Joined: January 27, 2023
- Pronoun: she/her
I don't think it's relevant at all but we can agree to disagree I guess-
-
Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
- Twilight Princess
- Twilight Princess
- Posts: 14189
- Joined: January 27, 2023
- Pronoun: she/her
In post 310, Doctor Drew wrote:In post 309, Black wrote: I don't think it's relevant at all but we can agree to disagree I guessThat is one fair question they had.
Did your read on Jason change after your reads list(I just went back in your iso to check it out).
And did my entrance change your read.I'm sorry but I don't consider "why didn't you explicitly say you scumread this" a fair question
I didn't really like his responses to me or to Bingle. His replacing out caught me off guard and I usually lean on the side of that being townie, so that throws me off. I would personally never replace out of a scum game but I can't really say the same for everyone. I think there's a decent possibility the solve is just Kowah/Jason(You) and in that world, maybe Jason replaced out because I called them out as soon as I replaced in
I thought it was weird how you didn't mention Kowah at all until I asked you about him, and then it seemed like you rode the fence a little with your response. "I could vote for him but I always think he's scum" seems like you're trying to get on the wagon without actually getting on. I don't really like it tbh-
-
Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
- Twilight Princess
- Twilight Princess
- Posts: 14189
- Joined: January 27, 2023
- Pronoun: she/her
I'm sorry but I don't really understand what you're trying to say here. I think saying I'm posting just to post feels pretty disingenuous though. I'm trying to solve and there's meaning behind my questions even if you don't see themIn post 314, Political Clout wrote: but it is a fair one. if someone says w and then you say hey buddy you are doing x here you are saying y but also saying z. do you think a is true because I do in fact doing a is scum. you say nothing of actual value and it feels like you are just posting to post. as x y and z are a completely different conversation than a. imo.-
-
Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
- Twilight Princess
- Twilight Princess
- Posts: 14189
- Joined: January 27, 2023
- Pronoun: she/her
Drew there was some confusion on the "question" my b
This is my first experience with Jason so idk what you mean by that. I'm trying to think of why scum!Jason would rep out. I wasn't rude at all in my argument and I think Bingle was pretty respectful too. Feeling defeated and not wanting to play is the only thing I can think ofIn post 315, Doctor Drew wrote: And you really believe that someone would rep out because you called them scum? Especially a player like Jason?-
-
Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
- Twilight Princess
- Twilight Princess
- Posts: 14189
- Joined: January 27, 2023
- Pronoun: she/her
It hasn't gone anywhere because it was a statement to Kowah and they haven't responded. Give it time...relax!In post 320, Political Clout wrote:
then what's the point of your post to kowah talking about disconnect? because it doesn't go anywhere and you don't take it anywhere unless i'm wrong.In post 318, Black wrote:
I'm sorry but I don't really understand what you're trying to say here. I think saying I'm posting just to post feels pretty disingenuous though. I'm trying to solve and there's meaning behind my questions even if you don't see themIn post 314, Political Clout wrote: but it is a fair one. if someone says w and then you say hey buddy you are doing x here you are saying y but also saying z. do you think a is true because I do in fact doing a is scum. you say nothing of actual value and it feels like you are just posting to post. as x y and z are a completely different conversation than a. imo.-
-
Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
- Twilight Princess
- Twilight Princess
- Posts: 14189
- Joined: January 27, 2023
- Pronoun: she/her
PC what is your mafia experience?-
-
Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
- Twilight Princess
- Twilight Princess
- Posts: 14189
- Joined: January 27, 2023
- Pronoun: she/her
I appreciate the context. I'm kinda grossed out by meta reads because I've had some bad experiences with them lately (*cough* Fire&Ice) but I'll take this into considerationIn post 323, Doctor Drew wrote: Pre Edit2: Fair enough Black, but my experience is that Jason would not back down......I even had a real battle with him when he was scum, and he fought right back. So no, I don't feel he is the type to back down, and definitely not to replace out with his tail between his legs-
-
Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
- Twilight Princess
- Twilight Princess
- Posts: 14189
- Joined: January 27, 2023
- Pronoun: she/her
Nvm you can ignore this. For some reason I could've sworn you were a new accountIn post 325, Black wrote: PC what is your mafia experience?-
-
Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
- Twilight Princess
- Twilight Princess
- Posts: 14189
- Joined: January 27, 2023
- Pronoun: she/her
It did not say 2011 the last time I clicked it. You're an old man here-
-
Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
- Twilight Princess
- Twilight Princess
- Posts: 14189
- Joined: January 27, 2023
- Pronoun: she/her
The 2011 thing was to Political Clout. I thought he was a newer player. The fact that he's more experienced makes me feel worse about his push on meIn post 330, Doctor Drew wrote: Hey screw you buddy, my original account on here was from 2011.
But Black, you asked me about Don, what are your feelings on them?
I think Don feels townie in his thought processes. I like his reads and his approach to the game. And like I said before I think his wagon has scum on it-
-
Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
- Twilight Princess
- Twilight Princess
- Posts: 14189
- Joined: January 27, 2023
- Pronoun: she/her
You replacing in, ignoring Kowah and the pressure around him, and jumping right on the Don wagon based on your predecessor kinda stinks-
-
Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
- Twilight Princess
- Twilight Princess
- Posts: 14189
- Joined: January 27, 2023
- Pronoun: she/her
I don't really think your reasons for doing so are very strong in particular either and that can be said about PC and Kowah too-
-
Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
- Twilight Princess
- Twilight Princess
- Posts: 14189
- Joined: January 27, 2023
- Pronoun: she/her
Oh I'm dumb. You were yelling at me because I suggested you're old too lolIn post 331, Black wrote:
The 2011 thing was to Political Clout. I thought he was a newer player. The fact that he's more experienced makes me feel worse about his push on meIn post 330, Doctor Drew wrote: Hey screw you buddy, my original account on here was from 2011.
But Black, you asked me about Don, what are your feelings on them?
I think Don feels townie in his thought processes. I like his reads and his approach to the game. And like I said before I think his wagon has scum on it
Sorry I'm tired-
-
Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
- Twilight Princess
- Twilight Princess
- Posts: 14189
- Joined: January 27, 2023
- Pronoun: she/her
I'm getting the feeling that your push on me is fabricated and scum motivated. You're not really an easy person to read imo and I was thinking some of the weird vibes I'm getting from you could be attributed to you being an inexperienced player. But the fact that you've been around the block makes me feel worse about you and your pushIn post 336, Political Clout wrote:
let's say i'm a newer player what would you say and let's say i'm an experienced player what would you say? because I'm going to be open and tell you right now that I think you are going nowhere with this question and i'm going to circle it back around and say just like with kowah you didn't go anywhere and didn't take it anywhere. ultimately how does it help you solve my slot?In post 325, Black wrote: PC what is your mafia experience?-
-
Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
- Twilight Princess
- Twilight Princess
- Posts: 14189
- Joined: January 27, 2023
- Pronoun: she/her
Again, I'm sorry if you don't see the purpose behind what I'm doing but saying I'm just posting to post doesn't feel like an honest opinion of me. This is how I play. I engage with people and point out things I find contradictory or weird so that I can read them betterIn post 337, Political Clout wrote: huh? objectively this is wrong. what could kowah say about your post that would take it somewhere? like there is a certain finality to your post. kowah you are disconnected ending the day on page 10 is scum drop mic and the former part of the post has nothing to do with the latter part of it. I stand by what I said feels like you are just posting to post and not doing anything with it.
"The former part of your post has nothing to do with the latter part of it"
...what?-
-
Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
- Twilight Princess
- Twilight Princess
- Posts: 14189
- Joined: January 27, 2023
- Pronoun: she/her
You ignoring Kowah stood out to me because I already had the feeling that you two could be the scum team before you even replaced inIn post 338, Doctor Drew wrote: and by your logic I also ignored Delta and Appearence as well. Why not comment on that?
A lot of the mech talk has made my eyes glaze over but I townread his tone and the way he's presenting his arguments. We seem to agree on a few reads as well and that usually pings me as town even though it probably shouldn't. It's not really a solid read but I don't think Bingle is a good lim option at all atmIn post 338, Doctor Drew wrote: I apologize if you had said as much, but what is your opinion on Bingle?-
-
Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
- Twilight Princess
- Twilight Princess
- Posts: 14189
- Joined: January 27, 2023
- Pronoun: she/her
If I had to guess then there's one scum in Kowah/Drew/PC, possibly two but it's probably not that easy. I have a tendency to townread scum so if there isn't two in this group then the second scum is probably near the top of my list
Speaking of....where the heck is Delta?-
-
Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
- Twilight Princess
- Twilight Princess
- Posts: 14189
- Joined: January 27, 2023
- Pronoun: she/her
In post 347, Bingle wrote: Between Gamma and Epsilon.-
-
Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
- Twilight Princess
- Twilight Princess
- Posts: 14189
- Joined: January 27, 2023
- Pronoun: she/her
Can you elaborate a little on why you think PC is townie?In post 355, Kowahbunga wrote: I think Black and PC are town. If one isn't, I would say it's Black. At least one is, but I'm thinking both are.-
-
Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
- Twilight Princess
- Twilight Princess
- Posts: 14189
- Joined: January 27, 2023
- Pronoun: she/her
Also I'm curious about this. I don't think ending the day early is ever really that beneficial. What are the benefits and why is this game different?In post 352, Kowahbunga wrote: I do not think ending today early is as beneficial as I would in a more standard game-
-
Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
- Twilight Princess
- Twilight Princess
- Posts: 14189
- Joined: January 27, 2023
- Pronoun: she/her
I think it's important to understand your thought processes so I can sort you better, but if you don't want to talk about it then I can't make youIn post 359, Kowahbunga wrote: This is not important to this game, it will devolve the conversation away from the actual game here because it's just my opinion-
-
Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
- Twilight Princess
- Twilight Princess
- Posts: 14189
- Joined: January 27, 2023
- Pronoun: she/her
There's no way you can say 357 isn't relevant to the game so I'm still waiting on an answer to that-
-
Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
- Twilight Princess
- Twilight Princess
- Posts: 14189
- Joined: January 27, 2023
- Pronoun: she/her
The deadline is in 20 hours?!
This might be the slowest game I've ever seen-
-
Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
- Twilight Princess
- Twilight Princess
- Posts: 14189
- Joined: January 27, 2023
- Pronoun: she/her
I still don't think PC's questions were very good but you're the second person to say this. It felt like he was trying to shade me more than actually solve me. Idk, maybe it's just meIn post 362, Kowahbunga wrote:
My town read on you and PC comes from the conversation you both had. on page 13 or 14. I thought PC asked some very good questions about the questions you were asking, and I was having the same thought about the same questions. Your 344 was a good retort to PC's concerns. So I liked the overall feeling of that conversation.In post 361, Black wrote: There's no way you can say 357 isn't relevant to the game so I'm still waiting on an answer to that-
-
Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
- Twilight Princess
- Twilight Princess
- Posts: 14189
- Joined: January 27, 2023
- Pronoun: she/her
@mod: I'll be out of town with limited access until Monday-
-
Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
- Twilight Princess
- Twilight Princess
- Posts: 14189
- Joined: January 27, 2023
- Pronoun: she/her
I disagree with this mindset on a fundamental levelIn post 370, Kowahbunga wrote: I don't know about anyone else, but I never think a player's posts are good when they're questioning me and my motives.-
-
Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
- Twilight Princess
- Twilight Princess
- Posts: 14189
- Joined: January 27, 2023
- Pronoun: she/her
I find it odd that your first thought is to ask him what he thinks about me instead of the guy you're voting for. If you think I'm scum then why aren't you voting for me? The Don wagon seems easier to push through huh?In post 376, Political Clout wrote:
welcome what do you think of black?In post 374, GuyInFreezer wrote: Abnegation replaces Deltabreedy
so far a lot of people that is my feeling has said it's town v town. I think I can institute wisdom of the crowds here and say I'm wrong I would like fresh eyes to look at the interaction and see what they say first.-
-
Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
- Twilight Princess
- Twilight Princess
- Posts: 14189
- Joined: January 27, 2023
- Pronoun: she/her
I'm about all packed up for my trip so in an hour or so I won't be here much. I'll poke in throughout the weekend to make sure we're not risking a no lim-
-
Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
- Twilight Princess
- Twilight Princess
- Posts: 14189
- Joined: January 27, 2023
- Pronoun: she/her