Chaos Diplomacy FINISHED! Who were the survivors?

[pablito]

I'm good with Italy.

[pablito]

pablito, Venice, wants /in for the Mediterranean alliance.

[pablito]

@Munich, Berlin

: If neither of you moves east this turn I don't see how Austria can possibly survive.

@Italy, particularly Venice

: Truce?

Is that on behalf of yourself and/or others? For me personally, I'm interested in hearing what you have to say. I am at the border of my current alliance - so I'd love to hear your terms.

I joined the Mediterranean because no one but Italy has propositioned me for anything yet.

@OGML Mun and Bella Vie - You seem concerned with your north more than the south. I'm open to keeping it that way.

Spoiler:

Mediterranean Agreement Between Peoples

current members:

1. Extrapolated Eagle (Greece)
2. Animorpherv (Spain)
3. Zulfy (Naples)
4. ActionDan (Rome)
5. Aronis (Tunis)
6. Mist7676 (Marseilles)
7. Nyalite (Smyrna)
8. Shadoweh (Ankara)
9. Pablito (Venice)

Article 1

All members of the agreement shall come to the aid of any fellow people group in time of need, as agreed upon in proposition 1.

Article 2

Any nation or people group adjacent to the Mediterranean have an open invitation to join the MABP until the end of the first phase of this first year, and in all subsequent years the agreement is open to those who request one or are offered one and only upon a majority vote, as agreed upon in Proposition 3.

Article 3

All propositions which a majority of MABP members agree to enact are to be enforced by all members of the Agreement, regardless of any private opposition, as agreed upon in Proposition 2.

We collectively lament Naples not building a fleet T_T

Yes- Greece, Tunis
No- None
Standing- 2/9, 5 to pass.
I'm thinking we need an executive power, to coordinate all our troop movements and maybe even our builds, I'm wondering if it should be just one of us, to be elected every year, or a committee of sorts, what do you all think?

Just put Venice for Yea on the agreed articles and a No on the open prop, and I'm a yea for an executive power even if it does mean that it's public.

[pablito]

LLD, I'm strongly considering the march on Russia with you, however I still have concerns about holding the low countries against the naval onslaught from the north. If they gain a beachhead on the mainland before the end of year one we're both going to have to retreat from the Russian front to defend the rear. Perhaps N can support their defense from his home turf or Ruhr if Klick is not hostile. I'm glad to see Klick is considering his options.

Beyond that conundrum, I still have to watch what is coming out of Italy. Dan is right that pablito's options are slim given the current Mediterranean alliance. If he does move to Tyr I will hold in Munich to defend myself. Of course I'd rather see our Venice/Munich/Vienna nonaggression pact take precedence over membership in his larger alliance right now. pabs, where are you trying to go? I can try to position myself in Bur to support an Venetian invasion of Marseilles on turn two.

I can't vouch for the rest of Italy, but I'd rather not overextend myself with my alliance having only tenuous truces with other regions. I have no buffer zone while the rest of Italy does and they're not in a position to support right now. I'd much rather non-aggress-pact with Germany and Austria and SE Europe to allow them to fight the front against Russia/Scan. I don't believe that my taking another centre is key to my survival right now nor to my alliance.

I'd still rather move into Tyr, but right now I could gladly spectate until there's more to be seen. If there's something solid that is agreed upon with the MedAgree, Anschluss and SE Europe, then I could give definitive answers about where I'm going. Right now, I'm undecided, but I have no plans for the Pie because Mist/Mar already claimed it. But I can guarantee I have no plans to attack Vie or Mun because I'd rather you focus efforts on your North as that seems more urgent.

I'd rather you support the low countries so everyone doesn't get overrun than Venice nabbing Munich. It won't help anyone and incur german wrath. so.

Yes - I agree. Mun does not have to worry about Ven.

I hope you'll understand my hesitation at leaving my home center undefended against a neighboring army belonging to a rival super-alliance.

Do I have to be part of a rival super-alliance? The assumption is that it's a rival, but I'd much prefer it be a friendly super-alliance. I don't see exclusivity in the terms right now.

@Zulfy, is it mandatory that the MedAgree attempt to gain a centre by the end of year 1? I'd actually propose that it is only highly optional pending the state of Eastern European affairs. You seem to want to be aggressive early, but I'm not feeling it, yo. I'd rather focus on solidifying Turkey and Greece somehow (with us) since they're further away and tougher to help defend.

[pablito]

I'd prefer Piedmont region more than Tyr. Always have. Mist, opinions?

[pablito]

OGML should advance. I am not moving to Tyr without a majority of votes from my alliance. Right now, there is only a plurality vote due to absent voters.

[pablito]

Is Trieste part of MedAgree, and is there still a MedAgree? Was there already a proposition to disband?

I say No to the last proposition or something that was I think already rescinded.

Mist - does it make more sense for me to support you or vice versa?

ActionDan are you moving to Ven? If so, that means you'd take over the supply center if you don't bounce back - I trust you, but you can see how if Tri doesn't move to Ven, that will make me uneasy. Especially because this is based on what OGML is saying and not PrivateI, whom I've heard as both in and out of the MedAGree.

[pablito]

Ty actiondan I somehow assumed apu was supporting rather than moving. Mist what orders are you thinking about for winter phase?

[pablito]

I vote yes in support of Portugal.

Hi Breeze!

[pablito]

Zulfy, how are you still on rome taking Venice?

Action Dan can direct my move this turn

[pablito]

Pablo I am Im your house what do you need?

I need you to not be there in the winter. I am in prime position to be essential support in two turns so I feel I am very important to the medagree central attack but I can't help you if you take my Centre. I don't think I can take any Centre this turn unfortunately.

Also I did not attack Trieste. Trieste is an ally in my eyes. The order was mixed up.

[pablito]

OGML you could've just asked me if I would be willing to build a fleet, I'm wondering if you have an ulterior plan beyond that since you didn't ask. In fact, wouldn't asking me to build a fleet in Venice is even better because it puts me one move further from the main action in the Mediterranean whereas Zulfy can go immediately into the action with said new fleet?

[pablito]

Thanks for the explanation OGML - I'll let Zulfy take Mun. I would agree that even though I've not mentioned any intention of attacking you, you would be more unsettled if I had two centers in between you with little buffer in between. I trust Zulfy to let me just exist as I am as the buffer in between his two centers.

So if Mun goes to Zulfy as planned, should the MedAgree just leave OGML alone then and focus elsewhere? He's got enough to deal with and I'm more interested in OGML tinkering with discussion on others while things get settled elsewhere.

[pablito]

Er...no? Vice versa instead? I do think a fleet in Rome is more important right now to protect the flank.

[pablito]

pablito is always willing to be propositioned.

[pablito]

Zulfy, if I take Mun, it would free you up to head south to defend Nap if that makes more sense.

[pablito]

If we want to play the defensive for the peninsula would it be better for zulfy to head south to Venice if I get Munich though? If zulfy takes Munich and Aronis wins the coin flip I'm still stuck up north with nothing I can do to help you Dan to defend against the African attacks.

[pablito]

pabs, this is about you keeping Mun and Ven. If you're just going to take Mun and trade Ven to Zulfy then we don't have a deal.

Zulfy you tell me what you prefer. Ogml has offered it to both of us.

WB PrivateI.

[pablito]

@OGML, Venice was always going to fall this year whether it was to Zulfy or PrivateI. I don't want to be eliminated, and I think OGML you'd rather me be at your feet than someone else, so we all know what to do.

If there's a deal going on between Zulfy, N, OGML, and I to figure something out, that'd be great.

[pablito]

Oh wait, PrivateI has the choice of two open centres to go into - Bud or Ven. Moving into Budapest could be helpful for the support options there immediately. Moving into Ven only isolates further, and at this point in the game, it may be helpful for PrivateI to pick a side and go with it. Not sure if Ven could do much good unless PrivateI is joining up with ActionDan for the fight.

[pablito]

I'm learning.

It's the option of Venice Albania or the Adriatic then. Hrm. Yeah, well those are the options. I see what mine are now.

[pablito]

Who's going to retreat to my bed then. I've got a huge long fleet ready for docking.

[pablito]

PrivateI was pushed. It was not unprompted.

[pablito]

Well if zulfy is eliminating me then what should I change my move to, ogml?

[pablito]

Meh. I'll just go to mun.

[pablito]

Zulfy you guaranteed my safe passage. His word this round is consistent. Yours has not. Both of you approached plans to save me. But if you bounce back to mun that is on you.

[pablito]

Nvm. It wasn't you. It was Dan that coerced you into doing a move that you willingly knew would doom me. Ogml laid out oUT clear but you both still chose that.

[pablito]

If I'm in the medagree I'll vote nay on everything for spite. My plan is to not listen to medagree from now on if I survive

[pablito]

Nah. My goal was to betray medagree since the beginning so i wouldn't want to chime in. I was screwed over by Bella the most again. GG. Gl breeze and ogml.