Dark Opera - Bloodbath 9 (Delay much?)

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Move: Cargo Bay Gamma

/run&hide

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the objective for the aliens is to kill us all, so i can understand why there's danger on letting anyone to get some weapons without knowing if it's an alien or not. But why is it dangerous to have someone going to the bridge or the computer core? And the engine room?
A crew member or the captain can understand -eventually- what those switches, computers and stuff are for and how to use it, while the aliens should not. And the aliens should not be interested in taking the bridge. They want to kill us, not to steal the ship, right?

Meanwhile, i'd like to point out that there is a big difference in strategy between this game and mafia: the townies in mafia WIN if mafia loses, even if they died; here if you're innocent, you win only by surviving. So you got a have a totally different strategy -basically you will run and hide as much as possible, and you will not give a damn about who's killing who-. If there is a better strategy for an innocent to win -that is, to survive-, please let me know. Here, aliens know aliens, crew knows crew, and all of them are dangerous. The innocents know nothing, and are not trusted by any of those groups. Even more, those two groups have to kill them to win -aliens- or have to kill them just in case -crew-.
Guess the first step to not to get killed is to be at least trusted by the rest of the innocents, so here i'll make my case:
I hope i will someday do something so special that they will give me a name!!!

So, if you're an innocent, you know i am too.

Show me you are one, pm me about why can i say so

.

Mod Note: You are not allowed to PM one another, though claiming to be a passenger in the thread is perfectly fine.

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so neither pentadragon nor ironman are innocents. Innocents know why i wrote so.
By the way, being my first game i didn't know you cannot pm other players. sorry on that.

However, i repeat, i'm trying to know who's innocent. It's about leveling things, because the other two groups know who they are. Now i know you two guys are either aliens or soldiers/crew. So does the rest of the innocents -that is, in the case they received a pm similar to mine, which i assume is very likely-. (*)

Innocents know

.

And by the way, there is nothing suspicious about putting a test to know who is innocent and who is not. If i had a test to know who is crew/soldier, or who is an alien, i would post it too. But being myself an innocent in the first move, all i can come up with is a test to recognize my unlucky equals. I have not the information and/or the brains for anything else.

(*) That, or you are innocent with a deep deep understanding impairment...

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How the bloody hell does my questioning you not make me innocent?

An innocent would know immediately after my post that i'm one of them. You two have found my post "suspicious". That could never happen with an innocent.

And don't try to mess things up. I never asked anyone to pm me to say they are innocent. I said that i was able to recognize innocents over the answering of the question "Why have i said what i just did?". I asked -wrongly, and i apologize for that, and ask you all NOT to do it- to pm me ANSWERING THAT QUESTION. If you're innocent, you know the answer; if you're not, you don't. That's why it's a test.

So, again, not understanding what i said in the first post put you both in the not-innocent list. Or in the innocent-but-analytically-challenged list.

Sorry, you are trapped between the logic and a hard place.

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How do we know you are an innocent? Because you said innocents have to survive in order to win? Because you said you were?

That's the point. You don't have a clue. So, you're not innocents.

Have you seen when you sign up for a mail address? You have to choose a personal question; in case you lose your password, they ask you that question to know if you're the one that signed up. It's simple, obvious for you to answer that question, but is impossible for the rest. Like, for example, "What was the name of your first date?".
The question i did works pretty much in the same way: you're innocent, you know right away that i am too. You're not, and you will write a thousand lines about each and everything that comes to your mind, but will not answer the question (that was about WHY the innocents know i am one of them).

we thought a freaked out, ranting guy is slightly suspicious

i will take it as a compliment

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MY POST WHICH LOOKS IDIOTIC WAS ACTUALLY JUST A TEST

my post does not looks idiotic. Why do you think so? Is it too difficult for you to follow my reasoning? Do you need some designs to better catch the ideas?

'CAUSE YOU THINK MY POST WAS ACTUALLY STUPID, U R ALIEN LOLZ

i never said they were aliens. I said they were not innocents. For what i see, your concept of respect for others is at the same level of your logical-deduction skills. Hope you prove me wrong.

A TEST TO SEE WHO WAS INNOCENT OR NOT

well, if i have a way to recognize who is innocent and who is not, i will run it. Wont you?


CYA= cover your ***

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Again, how are the innocents suppose to know you are innocent when they do NOT know who each other are?

That is the question that innocents know how to answer!!
You don't know the answer -> You are not an innocent.

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by the way, i'm not staying with ZombieSlayer in the same room.

move: crew quarter

Sounds like a CYA

well, that's the whole thing the innocents have to do in this game.
I'm not trying to kill nobody, not trying to get guns, i'm not running rampant accusations -only said what is obvious for each reasoning innocent, that i'm innocent and that people don't knowing why i say so is not innocent-, i'm not trying to "play for the town" -here, if you're innocent, if you die you lose, no matter about aliens or soldiers winning-.

so, zombie, yes of course i try to cover my ***!!!! It's what i HAVE to do in this game!!!!

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I am still not understanding you. Innocents are the uninformed majority, if they were easily able to tell who each other was then they would become an informed majority and thus overpower all other factions, destroying the game.

that's why you can not pm others in the game. You have a point on this.

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it's a nice touch, Mokina.
Can you also put the author and/or the book/film? should be niiiice

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yes, blackwolf, sooner or later the aliens have to be killed. But for the first rounds, without any clue on who is who, i know innocents are the easiest to kill. Nobody will defend them. So for the first part, is better a)watch my back, and b)try to gather as much information as i can. Right? So i went to the not dangerous bay, and looked for other innocents. As by now, i'm pretty much sure about some other players being or not innocents. Maybe i'm wrong, sure, but i think i'm not.

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As i understand it, if a soldier dies but on the end all aliens are killed, then that soldier wins, even being dead.
For the innocents, if you die, you lose.

It's a huuuge difference.

However, you're right, let's see what they do.

Just because your pm says something, it doesn't mean that all the others got the same thing.

That's true. But i don't need them to have exactly the same pm than me. Just with some peculiar things that my pm have and that, i believe, several of those other pm have too. Maybe not all. But most of them, i'm sure.

However, i think we have now some supercomputer problems to address...

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The computer reminds me of Marathon....

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if it's three with two scums and a townie, the townie is done, so i think it's better to have pairs.

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I'd say vendetta sounds genuine. Plus, if you get attacked, we'll help ya.

I'm not taking the risk of something strange happening and then being lynched. So tell me where should i go, but i don't want to be with just one guy. If he gets in a trap, i'll be lynched. I don't want that risk. Where should i go?

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...or someone else please come here with us!!!

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Move: Cargo bay Gamma

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Move: Crew Quarters

Sorry, I just realized ZombieSlayer is in Cargo Bay Gamma
Please someone join us in Crew quarters, so we'll be 3!!

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Abstract: Killing bad guys is good. Taking stupid risks is not. And recognizing and cornering him are not easy tasks.


how do you do to corner someone in a room?

how do you "confirm" that someone is an alien?

and who will be more willing to mob lynch an alien: an alien pal trying to not be noticed, or an innocent who may be with not much life and hidden in some secure or semi-secure place/situation?

I'll be more than willing to go and mob kill the bad guy, but first
A) show me, "confirm" me he's scum
B) have it cornered
C) don't make me go through any really dangerous place just to get there to put my 1/180992790 th of the killing. Got no abilities, no weapons, no knowledge, no training. I ain't taking no risks.

PS: is very townie go and kill a confirmed alien. But very scummy too....

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I disagree that killing a confirmed alien is scummy in any way.

An action cannot be both very townie and very scummy at the same time

and then...

It is true that both townies and scum have sufficient motive to kill scum

Hey there is a very profound logic here... that i'm not aware of.


to:

Are you discouraging the town from banding together and using its power of numbers to kill the scum?

I just urge you to re-read carefully my post. I never gave any advice to the town, so i really dislike your way of trying to make me look scummy. I talked about ME. What i said is self explanatory. I said i

will

group and kill someone

if

A,B and C are fine. Do we know is an alien, is he cornered, and i don't have to go through an obvious danger to get there?

Ok then

.

But

i'm not

:
killing someone because someone tell me he is scum
going after someone that is free so we can end up mano a mano.
jumping over strange artifacts, going through strangely moving doors, etc etc.

The ones with weapons, abilities and stuff is probably more than willing to do a lot of things. The aliens trying to mix up too. So feel free to jump, bounce, scream, and be very "macho". I would love to see your positions without clues, weapons, abilities, ..anything.

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Has anybody some information to share about what's going on?
I've found something, but obviously i don't know how to use it.

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so, let's see if i'm getting it right. The Computer is with the aliens?

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Grek, the blackout began AFTER the bloodbath phase.

Actions happened in post 104. The "Oopsie" -the moment in which the Main Corridor went dark- was in post 114, that is when the Movement Phase 2 began.

So your action was performed with light.

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Mokina, being hungry can be an overwhelming feeling....

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about the narrations -which i really really enjoy-, is Al writing them, or is Mokina?

[Mod Note: Albert is writing some ass-kickin' flavortext which fits in almost exactly with my storyline. That said, it's not mod-flavored so don't try to deduce facts from it.]

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but I think I'll wait until things get interesting later before banding up with people

it's funny the way you

knew

things will become interesting later...

...'cause you

knew

it, obviously...

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the point, ting, is that we're not sure it will go that way for everybody.

I will trust those that can explain me why.

By the way, i'm doing this new question because i just realized that you already trusted me, so i was the only one that should have not answered your question, but i already did it. I guess this is also a good one. Sorry.


PS: I feel such an idiot... first, i didn't realized it back then, and now i answered your question when i should not. However, this other question should work fine too.

sorry again

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well, the gadget i've found puts me in the opposite situation. It has a Big Red Button, associated with some other... how can i say... possibilities. And it comes from some very neat place. But i have not a clue on what it does.

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ZS, Nightson, anything interesting happened to you?
by the way, i'm still interested in what has grek done in the BB -see post 130.

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my PM specifies that i don't know what it does. The point is, i can choose a room -any room- and press the red button. I've found it in the Engineering Officer's room. It seems to be some kind of remote control.

Is called Mysterious Device.


I guess that, if situation becomes desperate with Al, i can try and press the button for Cargo Bay Delta. But that is up to him. It can blow the place, or open the door, or take away the power, i have no idea.

And if and when we'll be sure about the nasty intentions of the computer, i can press the button for the computer core. It may unlock the door, or destroy it, or power it down. But that is up to me/us all.

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ting, what do you think?


and skitzer, just put the uniform on and see what happens...

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Al Rampage

Proposed a Secondary Protocol in the first movement Phase (M1). When BB1 started, the Sec. Protocol was supported by Grek, Pentadragon, Ironman, ting, Litral, ashmite, in that order.In the BB1, in the Cargo Bay Delta, the NPC BasilikI503 becomes active when he was the only one there.

He claims

that in that BB1:
He is an ex-officer of the UED. He killed a cyb. enh. human captain by gun fire, and a robotic supervisor by smashing his skull. He did so when called for violating Nomad's security regulations. He was not provoked, he was called by his name and they referred to him as "citizen". They mentioned a contract bounding him to something.Then the bay was locked down. All the guns inside the bay were deactivated. The supercomputer did it. Then the lights shut down, and the infrared lights replace them. Then a bipedal mecha appears. It loads a rotary cannon. Goes in his direction. He takes cover. Then Halcyon presents the mecha as the Nomad's private heavy assault battle robot.

Beginning the M2,

he claims

to be unarmed and to have found nothing other then the mecha warrior.
Then he uses some messages to state that the aliens have taken over the computer. That the enemy now is the computer.

Then

the mod says

that what Al is writing fits in almost exactly with her storyline, but that facts should not be deduced from it.

On the offer from vendetta to use a mysterious device similar to a remote control with a big red button addressing the cargo bay delta, risking an unknown output, he decides to go for it.

Questions: Al why don't you tell us something more about you? Are you a cyborg? How come that after the lights went down you were able to see what was going on, and to hide from the mecha warrior? How come you had the strength to crush a skull of a -i suppose- not paper-made robot? Why have you killed that captain?

Ashmite

first thing he did: he went right to the security office. In BB1, he's there with Ironman, OhGodMyLife, Litral, and bird1111. In M2 he moves to infirmary. For some reason, he knows the condition of pentadragon seems to have worsened, which is confirmed by him.

bird1111

In M1 moves to the security office when ashmite, ironman, ohgodmylife and litral were already there. Stays there in BB1. In M2, declares to have found a button for the airlock, which is over the security office. He agrees with trying to help Al by using the mysterious device.

(i will do the rest later)

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oh thanks ashmite i haven't realized that.

by the way, are also "accessable" the questions to Al?

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not using it by now, then.
Why are we going away of the earth? At the beginning, the captain turns the engines down and waits for the troops to arrive. Why are we now leaving in a hurry? What's the "mission" the computer talks about? Just the trip?

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Why are we going away of the earth? At the beginning, the captain turns the engines down and waits for the troops to arrive. Why are we now leaving in a hurry?

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move: Cargo Bay Gamma

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grek why are we leaving? why aren't we stopping the ship? Aren't we supposed to wait for the troops?
Post 1 says engines were and should be shut down. Please i'm trying to understand.

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ok, now i get the picture. Thx!

i never played HM before, so i'm getting worried because i see the townies characters having so many powers and can't help but think about the aliens. Being a balanced game, i guess they are powerful too with some strange/unexpected capacities. In order to be able to judge properly, and to make the right decisions, can you tell me what should i/we expect from the aliens? Because i have not a clue on that.

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move: crew quarters

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move: cargo bay gamma

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so what do i do? do i press this red button for the cargo bay delta, or for the computer core, or should i let it be and make some searching?

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vendetta wrote:
so what do i do? do i press this red button for the cargo bay delta, or for the computer core, or should i let it be and make some searching?


Grek wrote:
I will be asking my Chief Engineering Officer what his device does. Untill I tell you, do not use it, vendetta.

hey ashmite did i something to you to be treated this way?
can't i ask, after all the things that happened, what to do with this button?

Get me outta here guys...

So i see this, and make a question, trying to help. That's all. But it seems it's too much for you. It seems for the rest of the people too, because nobody answers.

So time to lurk, i guess.

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No hard feelings on anyone

Ting is an innocent. -that or he has access to the pm's sent to innocents-. 100% sure, people. Wanted to say it just in case something happening to me in the next phases. I guess that if i die, you can check me up and see i'm an innocent, so you can put this claim in use.
I tried to recognize some other innocents out there, but i have to say he's the only one i've found. In fact, he's the only one i trust.

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LOL

i searched the luxury-goods shipment, and i've found some interesting stuff. But it seems my character, other than getting something i prefer not to reveal, was attracted by the champagne in some crates.... and decided to taste it... several times...

so now i'm a little bit drunk...

This is getting dangerous, but also funny!!

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is there any chance that the "unknown sentient species" could be the robots? or include them?

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i agree with ting. Zombie surrenders and is scanned. Nightson is killed.

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Albert, why have you marked ZS to death before he claimed? What made you think he had to die? Had you any previous information?
Please Albert answer me, because i'm prone to believe you instead of ZS, but i see you reacting to his reasoning against you by marking him to death, so i would like to understand why -for all we knew, he could have been an innocent at that point-.

we can always take care of nightson later, so why not outnumber ZS and scan him?

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Albert, why have you marked ZS to death before he claimed? What made you think he had to die? Had you any previous information?
Please Albert answer me, because i'm prone to believe you instead of ZS, but i see you reacting to his reasoning against you by marking him to death, so i would like to understand why -for all we knew, he could have been an innocent at that point-.

we can always take care of nightson later, so why not outnumber ZS and scan him?

Al please answer me.

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For these reasons, plus the report of one of my operatives, I am going to strap myself with explosives and kill him this turn. I will take NO comments, NO complaints, and I dare anyone to try and stop me.

Well for all i care, you can take it or leave it, but you have my complain. He's probably an alien? Yessir. Do we HAVE to kill him before scan him? I don't understand why.
Have you answered my question? Well it seems your interpretation of a military mind is accurate also on the general lack of understanding; i asked you why have you decided to kill ZS BEFORE he claimed - note i said before (before, Al), which means when he already haven't said anything and for all we knew could have been an innocent.
He haven't said anything and you already wanted him dead. . You did it because:
A-You are one of the bad guys
B-You have information that you're not sharing with the rest of us
C-You just jumped over the first one who dared not to buy right away your claim.

C?
However not convinced. I don't buy ZS story, not for a second, but you're still not explaining if it was B or C. However i'm as dangerous as a wounded seashell. and i'm also drunk, so the game is going on with or without my character anyway.

That said, if after your explosion is impossible to know if he was an alien or not -maybe that's the result of a radioactive explosive-, i say you know about it and there is a chance that your killing him that way is exactly for trying not ruin your claim. So, if after the killing everything will be known -he being an alien or not-, then go ahead -nothing any (drunk) innocent can do about it anyway-. If not, he should be scanned first.

And please people don't forget about our NPC in the main corridor. Nobody says what to do about it.

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oh gosh, so if i die now everybody will think i'm an alcoholic?

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Well, i guess i'm the only character having fun and not worring about a thing. Not bad, even if you die...

Cheeeeeeeeeeerzzzz!!!!!!!!!!!

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....well a person can work up a mean mean thirsssst
after a hard day of nothin' much at aaaaaaall
summer's pass'd, it's too... too late to cut the grasssss
there ain't much to rake anywaaaaaay in the faaaaaall

aaaaaaaaand sometimes I... I just ain't in the mooooood
to take my place in back with the loudmouthssssssshhh
you're like a pict'a on the fridd'ddge that's never!! stock'd with fooooooooood
I ushed to live at home, now I stay at the hooooouse
....mmhh.... at the ssshhhhiiiiiiiippp.....

N' EVERYBODY WANTS TO BE SSHPECIAL HEAAAAAAA
THEY CALL YOUR NAME OUT LOOOOOOOOOUD
AND CLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAR..
HEEEEEEEERE COOOOOOOOMES A REEEEEEEEGULAR
CAAAAALLLL OOOOOOOOOUT YOUR NAME!
HEEEEERE COOOOOOMES...EEEERRR.... AAA REEEEEEEEEEEEGULAR
AM I THE ONLY OOOOOOOOONEEEE HEAAAAAAAA TODAAAAAYYYYY.....

*snif*


Well a drinkin' buddy that's boooound to anotha tooow...eeerr....to anotha shiiiiiiiipp
Once the police made you go awaaaaaaaa..hic...aaaaaaaaaaaaay
n' even if you're in the arms of sshhhomeone's baby nooooow
I'll take a great big whiskey to yaaaaaaaaaaaaaa anywaaaaaaaaay


N'EVERYBODY WANTSS TO BEE SOOOOMEOOOONE'S HEEEEEAAAAAAAAA
SOMEONE'S GONNNNA SSHSHSHHHOW UPPPP
NEVAFEAAAAAAAAAAAAA
'CAUSE HEEEEEEEEERRRE COOOOOOMES A REGULAAAAAAAA
CAAAAAALL OOOOOOUT YOUR NAAAME! HEEEEEA COOOOOMES A REGULAAAAAA
A MY THE ONLY OOOOOOONEEE WHO FEELS ASHAAAMMM'D????

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if ZS is right, Al n ZS going down together is a good deal. A scum is out.
is Al is right, ZS n Al going down together is a good deal. A scum is out.
Both agreed that killing each other is a good deal.

I say let them die together. Somehow, they deserve each other.



Sadly, sadly, sadly, there are no sandwiches here.
But anyone willing to sing his lungs out in the name of treason, women, nostalgy, or funny stuff we did back when we were kids, is more than welcomed in the broken hearts' bay!!!

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Al n ZS stay into the crew quarters. Everybody else leaves. Al blows himself up. That way, we'll have no more Al, ZS, and Basilisk!!!! It's a great deal for everybody!!!! Cheeeeeeeeeeeeerzzzz!!!!!!!!!

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Basilisk is going after Al. It's not a danger for us.

I'm not sure at all ZS being human. I say he's scum.

but as i already said

N'EVERYBODY WANTSS TO BEE SOOOOMEOOOONE'S HEEEEEAAAAAAAAA
SOMEONE'S GONNNNA SSHSHSHHHOW UPPPP
NEVAFEAAAAAAAAAAAAA
'CAUSE HEEEEEEEEERRRE COOOOOOMES A REGULAAAAAAAA
CAAAAAALL OOOOOOUT YOUR NAAAME! HEEEEEA COOOOOMES A REGULAAAAAA
A MY THE ONLY OOOOOOONEEE WHO FEELS ASHAAAMMM'D????

We're gonna die......

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Basilisk thinks otherwise

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ting, what part of ZOMBIESLAYER IS AN ALIEN are you not getting????

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nothing to eat here, iron, but champagne enough to forget about it. About anything.

nnn' now for the irish folks!!!

I bang on the door but you won't let me in
'Cause you're sick and tired of me reeking of gin
You lock all the doors from the front to the back
And leave me a note telling me I should pack
I walk in the bar and the fella's all cheer
Order me up a whiskey and beer
If you ask me why I'm writing this poem
Some call it tavern, but I call it home


LET'S SCREAM TOGETHER THE CHORUS!!!

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so some people knows how to drink there in melbourne...

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i can't disclose sensitive information before taking over the sh.... eerrrr.... eehhemmm... want some champagne??

Mush-a rain dum a doo dum a da
Whack for my daddy-o
Whack for my daddy-o
There's whiskey in the jar-o...



......
In Heaven there is no beer
No beer!!!!!!!
That's why we drink it heeeeeeeeeeere
And when we're all gone from heee ee eeere
Our friends will be drinking all the beeeeeeeeer


come and get a gammmmaa-oo-singing!!!

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move:infirmary

great place to find alcohol!!!!

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mokina where is basilisk?

in post 512 went to the crew quarters?

is it's in the crew quarters, i stay in the infirmary

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I can do actions to Al. Al can do stuff to me and you. You can do stuff to Al.

My parents told me about the ones like you, making stuff to each other; they told me not to accept candys from you, and to stay away.

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hey mokina, how many action pm's are in?

[Will post a summary later today.]

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Oh My...!!! BlackWolf is the infamous poisoning alien!!! He has the ability to kill with poisoned bodily fumes!!!
He's an alien, but after eating some bean he becomes a SK.

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yellow, you can always replace bird1111. I think two weeks away is waaaay too much. Mokina?

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wasn't basilisk looking for Al? why has it shooted ashmire?

why isn't basilisk yellow?

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with the needed reboot of the HM5 game, i was making a little thinking about what constrains should be adressed to make a mafia-like game plausible. Sorry, the mathematician's mind are that sick. And the resut is that either this game is foulty -and i don't think so-, or Zombie fake claimed.

The clue is the winning conditions.
If things are the way he claimed, it can get to a ridiculous situation. If the crew and aliens are killed, and only anarchists, he-the government agent- and innocents are left, the game should stop, and only the innocents win. Check it.
The anarchists would still have the agent to deal with, so are not winning. The agent still has the anarchists to deal with, so not winning yet. But the innocents at that point should have fullfiled their winning condition.

Not logical, so i don't know what he is or what his winning conditions are, but what he claimed HAS to be a lie.

Am i wrong?

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We are directly over the infirmary.

I'm going to the infirmary to heal myself.

i'm the one at the infirmary. can i help somehow?

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The role PM'ed to us is crystal clear. In the situation i described, the game should be stopped because the innocents fullfiled their goal. Any innocent reading his role will see it as obvious.

You did a very good impersonating I have to admit, and i'm not saying you are scum, alien, pirate, or whatever. But your role claiming is a lie, that is for sure. With the rules of the game, it just can not be true.
Sorry.

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Al this is won not by wanting it more or less than the others, but by reasoning and/or convincing people.
So

i beg you all

to read my post

726 and 751

. Again if needed.
Go and read it carefully.

Zombie fake claimed, because the roles as he claimed are not possible/foulty/absurd because they lead to a possible ridiculous ending.

Don't be lazy, go and read. And use your brain.

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man i'm not in depressurizing trouble, but i'm drunk inthe infirmary with no training and everything has to be done by hand. Is there any way to not to be useless??
I'm serious, any idea on how can i help any of you?

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The only thing i can think of is to take some stuff here and take it to where's needed. You tell me.

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Never said you're not human.

You just lied in your role claiming. There can be thousand different roles in this game, ok. But what you claimed is wrong; deals to a possible paradox.

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Maybe you are playing with the laziness of th rest of the players who have not readed the thread or my messages, so i wil quote myself from 726:

If things are the way he claimed, it can get to a ridiculous situation. If the crew and aliens are killed, and only anarchists, he-the government agent- and innocents are left, the game should stop, and only the innocents win. Check it.
The anarchists would still have the agent to deal with, so are not winning. The agent still has the anarchists to deal with, so not winning yet. But the innocents at that point should have fullfiled their winning condition.

To the rest,

go and read the thread

.

The reasoning can be made even with the crew alive.

[vendetta]

Think about it this way:

When there is a Serial Killer in a Mafia game, even when all the Mafia goons are dead, the game is still going on, because there are still threats to the town, correct?

In this game, even when all the Aliens are dead, the game will still go on, because there are still threats to the town.

Once all the threats to the town are dead, we all win. Not until then. Just like in regular Mafia.

Perhaps you should be the one to read the thread more, Vendetta?

As Al already explained, YOU claimed that the anarchist have innocents as expendables, not as part of their wining conditions. That roles make possible the paradox: if crew is alive, your alleged "anarchists" have not yet winned; if "anarchists" are alive, the crew has not won. But none of them have the innocents as target or part of their winning conditions.

And exactly that is the winning condition of the innocents: not to have anyone wanting them dead.

So the game should stop, ridiculously, when there is still everything to be played...
You couldn't know it when making up your role -and the "anarchists" role. You didn't knew it until now: the winning condition of us innocents is to have nobody after us.

Sorry pal, that was a good try.

[vendetta]

POST 766

Never said you're not human.

You just lied in your role claiming. There can be thousand different roles in this game, ok. But what you claimed is wrong; deals to a possible paradox.

Don't you try to confuse people. I said it crystal clear: I never said you are not human.

You lied in your role claim. Is not semantics, is the fact that what you claimed is not possible or reasonable. You did not know it when claimed because you don't know the winning conditions of innocents. But knowing that, your claim is not logical at all, leading to a paradox.

Go and read posts 726 and 751, everybody. And of course, 778

[vendetta]

You are NOT a government agent. That destroys also all that "anarchists group" thing.
As you said, there can be hundred of different roles. And Mokina has showed lots of creativity, so i don't know. However, you lied and still do.

And you could be an

alien grandfather.

That would fit perfectly with a high visibility caracter, willing to be scanned. With pals lurking and making strange moves.

[vendetta]

Oh, come on. Seriously?
Make up your minds. You and Albert.
AM I AN ALIEN OR A TRAITOR HUMAN?! WHICH ONE DO YOU THINK I AM?!

I don't need to make up my mind. You lied about your role, and about the existence of a terrorist group. If you are an alien grandfather, an alien bluffing with being scanned, or a human with some strange role, i don't know. And i don't care. None is good for townies. You should claim a non-paradoxical (and hopefully truthful) role, instead of defending the impossible.

[vendetta]

And you people are probably the people most lying. Namely about what you think I am. One post you say I am an alien. The next you say I am a traitor human. You guys need to make up your mind, and stick to it.

Quote:

Oh, come on. Seriously?
Make up your minds. You and Albert.
AM I AN ALIEN OR A TRAITOR HUMAN?! WHICH ONE DO YOU THINK I AM?!


I don't need to make up my mind. You lied about your role, and about the existence of a terrorist group. If you are an alien grandfather, an alien bluffing with being scanned, or a human with some strange role, i don't know. And i don't care. None is good for townies. You should claim a non-paradoxical (and hopefully truthful) role, instead of defending the impossible.

What thread are you reading?

It is NOT possible the role you claimed. Period. We are not the ones having to explain.

[vendetta]

I trust you much more now. But i'm useless.

[vendetta]

the problem is, nightson we want you dead.

[vendetta]

oh so slysly was able to write?????

[vendetta]

They told us to power down, that someone had contacted the authorities, rambling on about "an unknown sentient species on board that might attempt to seize control of the liner"

for all we know, they could be not aliens but sentient robots.. or a sentient computer with the ability to summon up robots... so watch out. By the way, slysly being a robot explains why is he burning now...


By the way, is it just part of the plot, or it was some character with some specific role among us the one who "contacted the authorities"?

[vendetta]

Grek have you even read the thread???????

shame on you.
shame on you.

are you lazy to read, lazy to think, or just a 65 IQ captain?

did you read posts 778, 726, 751??????

READ YOU LAZY!!!!!!!

. Some people depends on you. Shame on you.

[vendetta]

Grek, are you telling me i am telling a lie about the winning conditions for the town?

Grek, those are the winning conditions. I am an innocent, and so is ting. Ask him about the conditions. If what i am saying is not true, you bet some innocent should have talked by now. But that is the winning condition, and is right. If you haven't noticed by now, the "terrorist" thing is part of the Zombie lie. Of course mokina should not make a paradoxal game. That is exactly the point.

Al, wait people to die and use their tongue as bubblegum. It's getting usual in HM games.....

[vendetta]

man oh man, this ship should be used by Lobotomyzed Anonymous as their flag ship.
Grek fits perfectly in the roll as its captain.


Your roles specifies the fact of getting your goals with the most utterly inobservance to the rules of logic? Or is it a handicap you are adding into the game just for the fun?

[vendetta]

OH.

I just realized something REALLY cool in the rules.

rules wrote:

Aliens: Kill off all non-aliens. That includes passengers.
Military: Kill off all aliens. Passengers don't much matter.
Innocents: Survive until no one is after your life. Team up or go it alone; your choice.


We KNOW that there are military. Paradox aside, zs still has to be lying because if albert and his men are anarchists, then there are no military on this ship.

Unless anyone else wants to claim military?

great! in post 832 you get to understand the post

418

.
you have an amazingly fast brain...


guys this is not real life. You are allowed to use your brains once in a while here.

[vendetta]

no, grek. For all i know, the term "logically challenged" is more politically correct.

you keep on explaining the town what you think their win condition should be. What makes you think you know better than us, who have our role pmed by the mod at the very begginning?

post 169 fits you almost perfectly.

[vendetta]

It's a game, grow up. Shouting at grek isn't going to help you.

i didn't shout. just read my posts; irony is not shouting.
i'm already grown up, thx.

i am amazed at your mental skills. You are such an inspiration for loosers like me.

i sincerely apologize in advance to all of you people if it turns out that ZS is a government agent, Al and his group just terrorists, Santa Claus a real guy, and grek someone over 8 years or an IQ over 80.

[vendetta]

Will go V/LA on the 15th... Dark Opera is going to have to become more fatal.

Uh oh....

[vendetta]

penta i've got a say you're a smart ass.

[vendetta]

i don't know if you are aware of what you did. If you are, you are a really smart guy, and i mean it. Really.

The short version is: i think you are intelligent. And i got what you did.


if you're not aware, well thx anyway, it helps even if you don't know what i'm talking about.

[vendetta]

for people trying to decide if hanging themself, run, use superpowers, or whatever, i think the capitain should say what will he do about the doors. I'm not depressurizing, but the ones in that situation need that information to make a decision.
I think.

[vendetta]

they are not humans, obviously. They are probably robots: slysly claimed so, and nightson... well, he already tried to force the claiming of robot enemies -post 120-.
Is this a robot rising, being them the "unknown sentient" specie that tries to get the ship?. If not, they should claim clearly what they are and what their goals are.
Nightson should, however, die. He already fake claimed, and we know about the computer room. Maybe he is an alien and slysly a robot -i'm trying to understand why it was just slysly to suffer the magnetic problems-.

Sadly, my mysterious device was ruined by the electrical problems of the ship, so i dropped it. I can no longer help no one.

Edit: the fact that 3 guys are not dying in vacuum is also a direct hit to the Zombie story about the anarchist group. Now there is not people enough for the crew, the innocents, the terrorists, the aliens, and now the robots... and zombie the "agent".
ashmite go to the infirmary, may be i can help you -i'm not drunk anymore. Wait!!! ashmite is unconscious! how can he post/move?

[vendetta]

I mean it doesn't make any difference because I'm actually an alien but whatever.

Nightson is not confirmed scum in my book. He is about 80% scum right now.

[vendetta]

penta when is the effect of the anesthetic ending?

[vendetta]

ZOMBIE HOW DOES FIT INTO YOUR STORY THE FACT THAT THERE IS AT LEAST ONE PLAYER THAT IS A ROBOT?

[vendetta]

nightson what do you know about the robots in the ship?

[vendetta]

last thing that happened to me was i was in passenger quarters and i got whacked over the head by something/someone. i woke up here. i was told i couldn't communicate with anyone which is why i have annoyingly been silent for such a long time (which kinda sucks as you have all been having fun). i have sat here and found some breathing apperatus.

Gera...
i have a much logical explanation.
In post 254 -page 11-, you were in the passanger quarters, and ting and grek leaved. Ting said that anyone in the room could use the system they used for geting anywhere they want in the ship. 254, they leave. AND YOU DISAPPEAR TOO. At post 259 you were nowhere to be found. The engine room, by the way, was already locked. So you used the vent system to leave and went to the engine room.
Why should it be a breathing apparatus in the engine room???

You are an alien, you used the vent to get to the engine room, and for some reason it took you two turns to get there -you did something else, or not having a map it took you so much, i don't know.

[vendetta]

they survive on no air. I say we kill them. If they are just robots, i swear to reassemble them after arriving.

[vendetta]

pent, problem is that vendetta has been using my evidence of having used the vents for me being an alien

no. I'm using the fact that

you survive on no air.

And what i said was that

there is a more logical explanation

for you being there. You have to recognize is more logical what i wrote than your story. Maybe you're sincere, but your story is oh-so-hard-to-buy.

on the problem of air being sucked out through the vent system, pent, i think we are just being not much realistic in general, so that is too detailed. If we were to be physics-compatible, we should notice the fact that depressurizing results not in asphyxia, but in explosion, and no alien, human or robot can survive it; they should be teared apart in thousands of tiny molecular pieces. But for the game, those constrains were not taken in consideration, so the point you makes about ventilation system and air lost is right, but probably part of the same thing, just making the game more playable...

[vendetta]

with your story, there has to be just 4 innocents in the game. that does not sound realistic, even more if you think we already killed 2 of them -let them die-.

[vendetta]

do you not think he left some around for people to find, otherwise the aliens could just blow a whole in the outer hull and win?

Will go V/LA on the 21st... Dark Opera is going to have to become more fatal. Wink

I don't think so. Two guys died, and you survived....in the engine room??????
You've been caught, man, the same as Nightson in the computer room.

[vendetta]

I STILL WANT TO KNOW WHAT SLYSLY IS DOING HERE.
GOALS?
OTHER ROBOTS?

[vendetta]

Oh, and Vendetta: Why are you so eager to trust SlySly's claim, but not mine? Care to explain, please?

when everything metallic was melting, the cargo bay where he was at that time got illuminated from melting metal, and he suffered some fair damage, so is not stupid to think he's made out of metal or something like that.
Having said that, i don't trust him at all. look my previous post.
I insist is also

possible

that the sentient species is just the robots, or includes them. That's another reason not to trust slysly. And his lurking through the game, too. He has some explaining to do.

I think you are just looking for reasons to get me killed.

No, is just that when military was allying with crew, and things were getting ugly for aliens, you claim an illogical role, as i already pointed out. Maybe is the mod resopnsability?maybe. However, is way more reasonable to think of you as an alien grandfather.
Someone explain, by the way, to our beloved captain, that scanning an alien grndfather will not give us much information, and will lead to trouble.


The point is, i'm not buying your story because

it leads to a possible absurd final

, as i already said. That is the reason. People don't see it, or think i'm wrong? ok. Maybe i am, and it was just a mistake of the mod when building the game. But for all i know, you lied when role claimed. So stop explaining me anything, you lied and you are still lying. And i don't trust people who lies. They better be dead. That's you.

I'm not allied to anyone. I trust just the other confirmed innocent, ting. I'm specially not willing to obey orders when is stupid to do so, even and specially if given by the lider maximo of the ship. When something is reasonable, and doesn't put me in much danger, i'm willing to cooperate.

[vendetta]

Yes, the electromagnetic weapon is in Cargo Bay Beta. It requires an ID card to use, probably an Io Research Corporation ID card.

for what i remember, ting, the weapon is static, so it can only be used on site. And there is no air there.

[vendetta]

the only ones that can win are the aliens, because with 2/3 phases there is no way we can get rid of all the threats. This time limit kills the townies strategy, i guess.
we're all gonna die

lucky skitzer, died soon and singing

[vendetta]

when everything made out of metal melted or malfunctioned, it went useless, so my character, under the influence of alcohol, throw it away.
however, it was used to take away the air of the selected room, which should be not a big help right now. i know it because it was me that depressurized the room with nightson and slysly. If you go back in the thread, you will see they started loosing air BEFORE the other chambers, and in the mokina posts their room was listed like depress/locked, while the others were locked/depress; that was because the order in which things happened were diverse.
Well, at least time showed i was pretty on target. The next phase i tried to depress another room, which i thing should have showed us lot things, but alas it was not working anymore.
Pity i used my actions on that, so i am almost unarmed and without having searched much -the only time i searched, i've found the champagne and got drunk, so not a little bit of luck for vendetta this game...

[vendetta]

if I should die before I wake
It's 'cause you took my breath away
losing you is like living in a world room with no air
oooh

[vendetta]

In Beta you have what? A stationary EMP rocket which has outlived its usefulness now that Basilisk and (probably) every other robot on the ship that wants us dead is gone?

we still have other robots around. Slysly is STILL not posting, not saying anything about himself.

i can move around in airless rooms

ok, gera, can you please explain us what you are, and what you're doing aboard the ship?

PS: it's a pity having the game finishing like this. It was pretty intense...

[vendetta]

Why on earth, being Vamp crew, did he let Al die???????

And please, the crew has to go to Al's body and take the weapons he could have had.


Please Vamp explain your letting Al die, he was specifically being denied medical attention because YOU were responsible for his health.

[vendetta]

Al, Post 957:

yellowbounder wrote:

ashmite84, Infirmary now. Speaking as the most trained medical professional aboard, GO TO SICKBAY!

Move: Infirmary

His condition is stable. Mine is not. Can you tend to me this turn ?

yellowbounder, Post 958:

Albert B. Rampage wrote:

yellowbounder wrote:
ashmite84, Infirmary now. Speaking as the most trained medical professional aboard, GO TO SICKBAY!

Move: Infirmary


His condition is stable. Mine is not. Can you tend to me this turn ?

Vamp should be covering it.

Al, Post 995:

Vamparific wrote:

ok im back what d i need to do

Can you heal me now...? I'm going to die this turn without medical attention.

Grek, Post 996:

Definately heal him.

[vendetta]

i have an important information. Based on things that happened to me, i know how exactly how a human can get for a phase into a no air room and survive. Killing the aliens is possible. But i don't know how many people or how many times this can be done. At least three times one person, or three person at the same time.


I want to hear a good explanation from vamp and litral. If not, i'll do my best to kill them.

[vendetta]

Also, ven could you please tell us more? I am interested.

I thought it was an important information for the movement planning for the crew. But given the awful score we've had till now with their lead, i'm starting to doubt it. They keep on running the ventilation tubes while down here we are getting stabs, shots, hits, you name it. So, when they'll decide to start doing SOMETHING for the game other than organizing the defeat and staying away of any possible harm, and when it will be needed to go to the airless rooms, i'll make the right moves to make it possible.

But, believe me, it is possible to go and get them. I haven't done it because my attacking is just 4 hit points. -yeah, i got some toy too-.

PS: i really hate the lurking, specially in a game as fun as this one. SlySly, you should post. And answer the numerous questions we've asked to you.

[vendetta]

don't you waste the so needed medical kit on non confirmed!!!. Please let him die, if he's what he says he is, he'll win if the terrorists and aliens die. And we'll have a better chance for that happening if we use the medikit and transfusion in some other situation, with confirmed townies or important people in some future crucial moment. He has no special powers, no special capacities, and he's irrelevant for townies goals.
Is a BIG misuse of resources.
Let him die and let's be sure some crew member gets his weapon.

EDIT: Well, now reading the previous post, it's crystal clear we should not get into this trouble to test and/or save Zombie. My advice for penta is to attack Zombie. In his condition, he should die anyway, so you're not damaging nobody.
For going to the airless room, i guess it will be possible only with a delay of one Phase, so no, you can not go into there right now.

[vendetta]

And Vendetta: I am, for all intents and purposes, just a regular human, yes. But would you tell Pentadragon to not heal, say, yourself, since you seem to be a regular townie?

you keep on changing words, trying to confuse people. Is absolutely NOT the same thing. If i die, i lose. If you have a winning condition like the one you claimed, you can win even if you die. In fact, is based in that reasoning that even yourself should agree about using the only transfusion we have when it will be of the most importance. You are expendable for everybody's winning condition, even yours. Some other people, which may turn up having some special characteristic, should be the ones targeted by our only blood samples and medical aid.
We use the blood and medical aid now, and we face future situations without a chance for healing.
We let you go down, and we'll be prepared for whatever comes next MUCH better.

Bottom line, is not as much about you dying, but about resources kept for future use.

[vendetta]

ARE YOU THREATENING ME NOW??
..........
Oh, people, when will we end this thing?? Now he's openly saying he will kill a half-drunk townie.
I'm not going anywhere just because you feel not safe enough. I feel not safe with you nearby, so you should leave. I was here the phase before, you came to me!! If i wanted to attack you, why did i stay here instead of going after you?? What sense does it makes for me to attack an armed guy??

Now, seriously, DON'T HEAL THIS GUY!!! He's a threat to us all, alien or not. Going after me is sooo anti-town. DON'T HEAL THIS GUY, you're helping him to kill me, is that simple.

And there is not such thing as half-victories, and of course the mod has not confirmed your story. Two more things to add to your list of inconsistencies.


Where the $%@## is the crew??????

[vendetta]

Vamparific killed ABR offering the reasoning, "He was no longer needed."

...and what for is Zombie needed?? why should we use our resources on him??

All you have to do is leave the infirmary, and I will not attack you.

You have no reason to be here, after all. Besides wanting to kill me, anyways.

You, on the other hand, have no reason to be here, besides possibly wanting to kill me.

I was in the infirmary BEFORE you got here. I never ever followed you; in fact, at the second movement phase I went AWAY from a room because you went there, and i posted that was the reason. So, NO, in the whole game i never tried to kill you. You have been shot and stabbed, but i was not there.
I am in the infirmary because i think is a semi-secure place to be, and if anything happens it's possible to eventually get healed, finding equipment to do it. My reasoning for being here is previous to you coming here. You DO NOT need to be here, the transfusion can be done elsewhere.
I am townie, i am NOT moving, and i am defending myself against any stupid attack.

SlySly is still not posting, ger has a lot to explain now about his story now that comes up that he was equipped with electronical suff, and I insist:
DON'T HEAL ZOMBIE, YOU'RE HEALING SOMEONE THAT IS OPENLY DECLARING HE WILL KILL A TOWNIE.
PS:Litral, you said

There's a "crew" that's separate from the innocents, I gather? I always thought you guys were referring to the innocents when you said "crew"...

What's your role? Is not innocent for sure, you cannot confuse like that if you received the innocents PMed role. So, who are you?

[vendetta]

What kind of crew is this??

With this genial move from Vamp, now there is no way townies will believe you. You said you were there to heal Al,... and then you KILL HIM!!!
This is not the way to be trusted.

What should i do? Maybe the best thing is to blackwolf it: move away and alone, and wait for the rest of the people to kill each other. Just lurk away. Look at Slysly. If that kills the fun and the game, who cares.

[vendetta]

Gera, post 972:

so i am afraid your theory doesnt hold up. please dont accuse me of being an alien again

You're scum.

You, Slysly, Nightson, and Zombie, should die.

But with the brains we have in the crew, you will probably win. Hey, the only one killed directly by the crew was a character trying to kill aliens...

[vendetta]

What's your role? Is not innocent for sure, you cannot confuse like that if you received the innocents PMed role. So, who are you?

I repeat: if you were an innocent, you should never confuse those two, because in your PMed role the statement is very clear: you are an innocent, and you are not in the crew. That is why the innocents know you are not an innocent. That doesn't mean you're scum. You can have different townie roles. That's why i asked you who you are.

[vendetta]

what about your winning condition?

[vendetta]

P.P.S. Vendetta, if you follow me, which I definitely feel you will, I will put you on top of my scum list, right next to Nightson. Expect hot lead from the barrel of my pistol to be entering you if I find you anywhere near me on any BB phase.

What part of "I'm not moving from here" was not clear?

I had chances on you. I had a device that was able to take the air out of any room i wanted to... and i didn't chose yours. So do i prefer you were dead? Yes. Do i want to go through the risk of killing you? Nope.
So, why do i want you dead? Because you made an illogical/impossible role claim, not sustained by any other role or character in the ship.
Are you the first target for mob killing missions? No, Nightson, Ger and Slysly should be.

Should we use our vital healing supplies in you?

No, we should save them for crucial characters in crucial moments of the game. That's why i'm not asking anyone to shoot you, i'm asking to save our medical supplies. If you heal yourself some other way, good for you.

[vendetta]

crew playing thugs is not the way to win a game

[vendetta]

...so being a bastard pays off...

[vendetta]

Grek your crew sucks, you are just another gang on the ship. You better don't give us any orders; after seeing

what happened to Al for following your orders

, don't expect me to obey anything from the crew. You are playing horribly bad, destroing the trust of your only trusting and trusted allies, the innocents. If aliens win the game, you Grek, and Vamp, are the direct responsibles.

[vendetta]

the same grek that said Al to stay with you and not defende himself?

[vendetta]

No, Zombie, you're just rolling with the events and trying to take them out one by one.
But it's ok for me now. He deserves it. Go and kill him.

[vendetta]

move: passenger quarters

i'll try to avoid that dying thing....

[vendetta]

No no no no, don't you send it with me!!!! I don't trust Mr EasyShot

[vendetta]

ashmite: pag. 44, Post 1075

[vendetta]

????? were you talking to me????

sorry, i thought you were talking some other character. What device??
and in any case, why should i say anything at all to you?

[vendetta]

*OhhhhGoshhhh*

Zombie, you should read the thread, c'mmon...
AS I POSTED AFTER THE FIRST BB, me and someone else went to the crew quarters. Can't remember who. The other guy founded a captain uniform, while i've found a "mysterious device", property of the chief engineer. It had buttons for all of the rooms, and a big red button. I explained each and every detail in the threaqd, for christ sake, why don'tyou people read it? However, after some BBs it broke, when everything out of metal was damaged in the ship -Slysly got some heavy damage, remember?-. My character was drunk, so as it was useless he throw it away.
I'm writing this because all this information was already in the thread so you would have known anyway what happened with the device.

And NO, it's not that device -already gone- what allows people to get into airless rooms. Your scum pals can easily be reached into that rooms, but i'm glad you showed such an interest in how exactly is that possible. Only the scum would be nervous and willing to know how that can be done. The rest of us are letting them there and trying to get our hands on the cmputer and fight against some rotten crew.

[vendetta]

WHY ARE YOU ATTACKING ME????????????

you attack me = you are scum.
i am townie, i did not attack nobody other than taking the air out of well known scum.
And plus, if you kill me, the town will lose the knowledge on how to go through the airless rooms.
Oh, THAT's why you want me dead, don't you???

[vendetta]

You are probably the last of the anarchists. Skitzer picked up a radio, which you dropped.

ting, and the rest of townies, hope you have enough with this to believe this guy is sooo scum.

This thing of the terrorist/anarchist -which, by the way, are as similars as butchers and cows...- is completely nosense.
And this stupid, stupid thing about a radio which i don't know where is, where was, i mean, i don't even know what radio he's talking about. This is (nosense)^2.
Each and every movement i made is in the thread. And standard innocents know i am one of them.

The question is,
Are you so desperate that are now accusing me of being scum, Zombie???

[vendetta]

Litral, the ones breathing in no air are the most obvious choice for being non-humans, right?

they are:

Nightson

, who claimed alien, and was cought in the computer room when an explosion blew the door.

Slysly

, who claimed robot but hasn't explained what is he doing in the ship; he hasn't even posted since the claim.

Geraint

, who claimed town and says he is breathing with some kind of device. Obviously, if anyone is going after him, first he should look at the situation, and shoot him if he is NOT using a breathing device.

Then, we have lots of people claiming different things.

Declared weapons seems to do from 2 to 4 points of damage. ting and some other guys from the crew at least know how to get in the ventilation system. Someone -i don't remember who- has the ability of opening doors. I know how to get for at least one turn into an airless room. Grek has claimed Captain of the ship, and has some knowledge and abilities, among which there's the abillity of opening and closing doors, and using the bridge computer, though it seems the computer turned against the crew for now.

guys, feel free to correct and/or expand it.

[vendetta]

I call you scum because of the absolute vehemence you go after me with, even in the face of insurmountable evidence that your viewpoint is wrong.

yeah, sure, so much evidence.... are you drinking again?

With that device which you said you had this turn, and then later said broke a few turns before and you therefore discarded it?

NOW, STOP LYING. this is what i said, you lier scum:

i have an important information. Based on things that happened to me,

i know how exactly how a human can get for a phase into a no air room and survive

. Killing the aliens is possible. But i don't know how many people or how many times this can be done. At least three times one person, or three person at the same time.

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I NEVER SAID I HAD A DEVICE FOR DOING SO. STOP CHANGING FACTS. STOP LYING. GO AND DIE SOMEWHERE ELSE.

please guys if he tries to attack me defend me, he's directly attacking the town possibility to attack aliens in airless rooms.

and by the way, i explained carefully that what was ruined was the mysterious device with the red button, which i NEVER hide but openly said i had it, and immediatly after loosing it i reported the fact.
It's all in the thread.

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Oh, and you STILL refuse to explain to the town on how to move through the airless rooms. Explain to me WHY you refuse to give information to the town which can help them?

....you are more than intelligent to understand that if i'm not saying it now is because it can also give advantages to aliens/scum. I'll give this information when necessary, and in such a way that only someone trusted by me would be able to perform the operation (e.g. ting, ashmite).

EDIT: and I don't have to "explain to you" anything. As i said, go and die somewhere else.

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You should shoot the alien, then get healed. After that, we test you for alienosity via the blood sample.

Grek, will you PLEASE start playing town!??!??!?!

You're gonna use one of our last 2 healing possibilities in a non essential guy?!?!?!

AND we're losing some of the blood samples?!

Grek... why are you so desperate to save Zombie, when the life of all of us was of no importance for the crew before??

Grek, will you PLEASE start playing town!??!??!?!

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move: crew quarters

Slysly is a robot.... then why is he going to the infirmary??

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Beloved Grek,

there is people in this ship so stupid to think it is not a good idea to get the captain and the doctor in the same room with scum. They are so so stupid to think that perhaps the scum is armed. Or loaded with explosives. They say -you wouldn't believe it- that if you have a suspect that is armed, and in the same room with the captain and the doctor...and confirmed and possibly armed scum, bad things can eventually happen to the captain or the doctor. They are also so annoying about this thing that when the crew has only two healing left to do they should use it only in confirmed crew or town, not with suspects.
Fools. You know better. You have your plan. My sources talked me about this very well designed plan to make us win the game... they had a look to your notebook, and saw with their own eyes, written with color crayons in trembling capital letters your list:

-I important. I claim soon, i protected. Things get rough, let others die.
-Logic is for pussies.
-Security no need. We ruuuuule. Scum fear and die.
-I weapon. Big weapon.
-I orders. People obey. I soooo important.
-If other haz weapon, I fear. I obey. He wants, he do.
-I captain. Game mine. Others no need to know. I not explain. I biiig mystery.
-People in computer all NPC. NPC who cares. I protected. I captain. I big gun.


You probably wrote it in some arcane code for protecting this vital information, i guess. The colored bunnies you draw are nice, too. And the people have this round hands with all their five fingers in it!! Good job!!


PS: For you to understand.
Zombie weapon. Zombie no shoot. Why?
Captain say "Shoot!". Zombie no shoot.
Zombie 3 bullets.
Zombie health, Zombie 3 bullets, crew 1 health.
Zombie no health, Zombie bye-bye, crew 3 bullets, crew 2 health.
Better Zombie bye-bye.

Important information!!!:
2 health left.
Health important.
No health you die.
Dying not good.
Health important.
2 health left.

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Dearest vendetta,
Please catch scrofula and die in a grease fire.

Love,
Grek

Scrofula:

An old term for tuberculosis of the lymph nodes in the neck. Also known as the King's evil.
Grek is so nice of you... thinking of me as a King... From the moment I saw those beautiful bunnies, i knew you were special. The one you draw pulling Santa's sleigh is a little strange, though.

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Yes it'd be hilarious if loads of people died fighting one alien

OH shut up!! If Grek decided this is the right and wise decision, so it is. He is so intelligent....

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I've been thinking about this for a while.

I propose a

Last Resource Protocol

.
If the ship is going down and we're doomed we should react as the men we are. We go to the cargo bay with the champagne and give that blobbing drink one last fight.

The procedure includes march to the cargo bay singing, take one biiiiig last breath, and then get into the airless bay running, creating havoc, opening the crates and getting champagne bottles. Then, we shake the champagne and start breathing the perfumed air that gets out of its bubbles. That way, we breath into drunkness, using this amazing and user-friendly home made breathing apparatus.
I have not been PM'd about the alcohol resistance of each passenger, or the amount of champagne we have in the crates. So it may take a whole airless party to the fat lady to sing. And if we are resistant enough, with enough champagne, we can even drunk our way out of this nightmare!!!

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Futurama. Fourth Season. Love and Rocket. An insane ship going to suicide and taking the air out of the passengers. Bender uses that song to serenade the ship.
Perfect fit.

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Oooops, you're right.
I guess i choosed the futurama episode because it was about Valentine Day. There was romance, kisses and all that stuff.
I was probably thinking about Grek.

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/in!!

/in!!!!

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ting you never know...

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come on, ash, we need you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Blackberry, your role is scum. we all know it, but before getting killed you escaped to the space, dragging 2 bodies with you. Now you're not in the space anymore, so you re-entered the ship somewhere.
You're either an alien or a robot, and surely anti-town.

So, thnx for coming to play with us!!! Now you'll be killed. Enjoy it!

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Those corpses were already there, penta... they got all the corpses together, there, and then slysly escaped taking two of them with him through the airlock. That's why they're drifting in space.
But those corpses were there since...mmm... i think phases 6 or 7....

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any townie has any idea on how to light up the place -other than having OGML running all around-??

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ting weren't you able to get into the ventil;ation system to get into the bridge?

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so, i see everybody moved while the dark was protecting them.
I'm still here, and for what i see my performance of "Dancing Queen" of ABBA went absolutely unnoticed. Anyway, let me know if there is something useful i can do here in the passanger quarters...

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i wqas at schhol

well, is not working....

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slooow

any idea on how to kill those two robot/aliens??

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May be someone's role was Game-Killer, and his winning condition was to have the game abandoned by at least two mods.
He's on the verge of succeeding.

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Mokina is not even answering PMs...

.....

...sadness and a feeling of injustice......