Dark Opera - Bloodbath 9 (Delay much?)
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I bet you they're poisoned. You shouldn't eat them. Best thing to do is put them in a bag and give them all to me later. For safekeeping of course.
@Ven.
There are probably multiple roles in a faction besides a generic one. e.g. in a normal mafia game, you have cop, doc, and vig - all of which are town aligned, and all of which get a different pm. Just because your pm says something, it doesn't mean that all the others got the same thing. In fact, you should always assume that the mod gave everyone fairly different PMs to prevent game breaking claims.
Also, don't bother trying too hard to figure out who belongs where for now. It'll become clearer later, right now, anything anyone says could be a lie. What they do though, that'll tell you a lot more than what they say.
Oh, and innocent running is a bad plan. Later on, once it's pretty easy to guess who's who, it'd be ideal for soldiers and crew to team up. From the mod's post ven, the win conditions of those two factions are not conflicting. The soldiers, can, but don't have to kill the crew in order to win. As long as the soldiers are not killing the crew, and the aliens are gone, the crew and soldiers both win.-
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Running is still the wrong play. You're isolating yourself, you'll just end up more likely being killed. You should band with people you're willing to trust.ven wrote:As i understand it, if a soldier dies but on the end all aliens are killed, then that soldier wins, even being dead.
For the innocents, if you die, you lose.
Drop a breadcrumb, don't beat everyone over the head with it. Someone said it already, but anyway, if you're innocent, keep a low profile. Be subtle about revealing yourself. If anyone shares your role, they'll probably pick up your breadcrumb, and you don't end up exposing anyone.ven wrote:That's true. But i don't need them to have exactly the same pm than me. Just with some peculiar things that my pm have and that, i believe, several of those other pm have too. Maybe not all. But most of them, i'm sure.
Right now, I'm just picking the safest looking place to avoid anything... interesting.-
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Alright, I just PM'd, so that should be just three people left.
Secondary protocol sounds cool.
Less-spread-out-population would be useful, yes, but this early in the game, finding out more about the place is just as important as finding the aliens. I think a group of us need to go explore cargo bay beta.-
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There's another way to help out ABR.
I can get to the bridge.
I was thinking of bringing 3 people with me, and I was planning on picking them out based on their reactions to my crumb. I was hoping people who picked it up might reply subtly by dropping words I'd recognize, but it's too late for that now.
Right now, we need to discuss if everyone is fine with people being on the bridge, and who should go. If a group of 4 go, no one can do anything suspicious without the other three knowing. If we vote which people we trust the most to go, I doubt the other three going will be all aliens. We could also just dice roll to decide. The chances of all three people randomly chosen being all aliens should be slim.-
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Wow. We just started and we already have a captain claim and a threat from the soldiers to take out everyone.
@ashmite.
I can bring people to the bridge NOW. We could have a group in the bridge by bloodbath, that will allow the crew to do whatever stuff they want to in the bridge. If we wait for the captain to open the doors, he won't be able to do anything in the bridge untilnextbloodbath. ABR could be dead by then, and I think it'd be best if he's alive.
If Grek doesn't mind, I propose skitzer comes along. He has your uniform. I don't think there'd be an item 'captain's uniform' unless it's important somehow. Maybe there's something only you can do, and only if you have your uniform.
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To prevent confusion: I AM NOT A MEMBER OF THE CREW.
edit: I deleted the last bit. While not against the rules, I've guilted myself into concluding it's probably not in the spirit of the game. =(Last edited by ting =) on Wed May 21, 2008 3:46 am, edited 1 time in total.-
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@Grek.
Alright. No need for skitzer then. I'd be more comfortable if you pick one of your crew to tag along though, I'm not comfortable with being tasked with touching controls.
I was hoping there'd be a way to shut down the basilisk from the bridge, or maybe control the other cyborgs to destroy it. Is there? Having people take weapons from the armory sounds nice, but they won't get to use them until two BBs from now, and the basilisk would be roaming the ship by this BB once we open the doors.-
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@grek.
Is ashmite the crew you picked to tag along?ting wrote:I'd be more comfortable if you pick one of your crew to tag along though, I'm not comfortable with being tasked with touching controls.
@ashmite.
That's not what I'm worried about. I'm not unlocking the bridge.ashmite wrote:Grek is not locking / unlocking doors until the BB phase so all that is needed is for you to open the bridge now, with an understanding that no-one who has not been cleared is to go to the bridge yet, under penalty of suspicion.
Anyone in the room with me will be able to go to the bridge.mod wrote:[Yes. The FOLLOW command simply causes you to go to the same destination as the target if they use a movement-phase (access) item orability.]-
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Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. Other things I think might be possible are aliens who show up as humans when scanned; like a godfather, cult-ish aliens who can infect humans, and just plain powerful aliens who can rip us to shreds. =(ger wrote:i would suspect with this mod that the aliens have to have something going for them, cause otherwise this is just going to be a simple bug hunt once the soldiers get tooled up.
Besides the aliens, we also have to worry about:
Basilisk
The other cyborgs who are currently offline
Halcyon turning on us.
The first two maybe the soldiers can blast to shreds. Halcyon might be trickier. Maybe we should get someone to the computer core before halcyon decides to lock it/go nuts on anyone who tries to go there.-
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Yes, I'm not a crew member. I've said as much before in order to prevent any confusion that might arise from me being able to get to the bridge and stuff.
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Maybe the crew could find out what's wrong. If the crew and soldiers are confirmed, they can protect it from the aliens if nothing else.ting wrote:Maybe we should get someone to the computer core before halcyon decides to lock it/go nuts on anyone who tries to go there.-
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Oh. I thought ABR's men already gathered in one room yesterday.
Okay then, this gives the basilisk two BBs to wreck havoc. This turn and the next. We have no weapons. We can either all mass together in one room and hope we can somehow take it down, spread out so only a few of us get damaged, use ven's button thing, or move in rooms now and hit bird's airlock button. I'm not sure if the airlock would affect the basilisk though.-
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@vamp.
I'm just listing all alternatives. I'm actually not to fond of the let's-all-get-together plan eitherbecause it's possible that basilisk might just gun down all of us. It seems ABR managed to handle one BB with him with only a shoulder wound though, so maybe it's doable.
Actually come to think of it, the aliens are still a threat even if we split up. Then they can just kill everyone in one room and claim it was a trap. That's assuming the aliens have weapons/abilities though.-
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The doors to the computer core wereblown open.
Just to repeat something the captain said earlier:mokina wrote:Computer Core: Nightson [BROKEN DOOR]
Now, I'm not absolutely certain, but I'm pretty sure aliens being able to holdgrek wrote:she(halcyon) also maintains the life support.allour lives ransom would not be in our best interest.-
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That isnota good trade off. There's still aliens out there.Ifyou are who you say you are, your death would mean the soldiers become reduced to a leaderless rabble, and we're down one person who can actually fight. Even if you give grek your talkie so he can coordinate them, I'd rather you be in charge of your men than a ship's captain. Besides, running your device on him in the presence of grek and his men would be a better way of confirming both of you.
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I'm not taking sides between zombie and albert. If I have to side with someone, I'll side with grek. For now, I'll just stay away from everyone. All this new information is making my head spin. And I can't help but be wary that Albert and his men are being given access to the armory.-
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Okay. But still, why self destruct on him? How is 1 for 1 even a good trade off seeing as how we're already disadvantaged?
Also, albert having a working device that scans people for alien dna isn't concrete confirmation of him being who he says he is. I trust him for the moment, but only because I have to.-
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Al's secondary protocol plan fails because no one is in agreement right now on who should be killed and how. It was a good plan back when it was proposed, but everything was black and white then. Now there's a trillion shades of gray. He's called a secondary protocol on zombie, but he's already planned to detonate himself on him, so no point joining in.
I think no one besides Grek and whoever he okays should enter, but him and his men need to keep an eye on al's men, so I think it'd be best if everyone just left the computer core alone.-
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When halcyon comes back online, I'm gonna ask her to play soft jazz music. You guys need to lighten up. And beat up nightson.
Oh, and I should probablyfollow: nightson.
edit:I just realized beating him up might be prematurely rash if he really is a computer technician.
@nightson.
If you're really a computer technician, how about letting us restrain you this BB phase? We'll find out what you did to Halcyon next turn. If Halcyon's fine, we let you go. If he isn't, we beat you up next turn. Sound good?-
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How about... zombie slayer, the crew and the military team up against the aliens for now, with the condition that the crew get more of the guns, and albert always has one crew member pointing a gun at him. Once you guys take care of the aliens, then Grek can decide which of zombie and albert to trust.-
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add-on: I'd really, really, advise against it. There are still too many other threats at large.
Basilisk.
Aliens.
Other cyborgs in cargo bay.
Possibility of halcyon going crazy.
Also, ABR is strapped with explosives. If the crew and military kill themselves, everyone else is screwed.
Can't you guys just bicker later? If you hold albert at gun point grek, you can always just kill him if him or his men do anything fishy. No need to anything rash.-
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I disagree with ven. They're both humans. There are aliens here. Dead humans = bad deal.
@al.
I side with thehumans.Honestly, we're all screwed if this becomes a free for all. Heck, we couldalleven end up losing if basilisk and halcyon kill everyone, including the aliens.
If push comes to shove, I'll go vig and just wing it alone. I'll leave you, Z and Grek to bicker and just go for the aliens on my own. You guys aren't helping the passengers survive if you're killing yourselves.-
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...I want to.
What does it matter though? I'm weaponless. I can't help you, or anyone - not without killing myself. It's all well and good for you to martyr yourself, but I need tosurvive.
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Seriously everyone, come on. We can't tear ourselves up like this. We're supposed to band together damn it. I figured with all the threats out there you'd all join up, but you guys seem more interested in proving you're right than in keeping yourselves alive. =(-
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@blackwolf.
Not if you all kill yourselves first. Honestly, kill the aliens first. And the cyborgs. Then prove you're right.
@albert.
Hmmm. It's not a power, but...hmm.That's.. interesting. I could tell you what I did, it would save you from basilisk, true enough, but I have to do it in thread and everyone will find out.-
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Grek, do you still want to shoot albert? Can't you put it off till later? Sure, one of albert and z is definitely lying, but there's no need to decide which one to killnowright? There's still too many threats at large, we need all humans alive for now, and albert is confirmed human. Even if he wants to hijack the ship, he needs to kill the aliens first. Once they're dead, then you and your crew can decide which of albert and z to trust.
Or you could even kill z, albert and all his men then if you want to, but Ireallythink now is not a good time for humans to be killing humans.-
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@ogml.
I say nightson. He has no explanation for why the computer core doors were blown open. He has no explanation for why he was there. He implied being the ship's computer technician while grek has pointed out that the ship doesn't have one.
Right now, I'm thinking of restraining him until we find out if Halcyon is fixed next turn. I wouldn't be that bothered if he died, but I can't deny the possibility that he might be legit.
Hediddo something to halcyon. Unless I'm mistaken, neither Grek nor I made halcyon reboot. What we don't know, is exactly what he did.-
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@zombie.
Nice. =)
Now it's just the crew who need to chime in. I think if there's anyone we can trust to be guaranteed acting in the interest of the humans, it'll be Grek.
@ogml.
Hmm. Sure, why not? Nightson claimed to have repaired halcyon. If he's not lying, then she's fixed already, so a computer technician wouldn't really be needed. I don't want to have to kill someone needlessly though, halcyon might break again, and there's still the cyborgs and other computers in the ship.
If nightson chimes in and agrees to let himself be restrained, I think we should just keep him alive for the moment. If he doesn't say anything, or objects to being restrained, I say we kill him.-
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