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Haven't read the thread yet, but I saw this:
She's had that avatar longer than I've been a member of this site. I think you may have the dubious honor of being the only person to ever complain about it.Captain Bandwagon wrote:
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Alright, I've read the thread now. Needless to say, I completely agree that the Jester needs to claim today. Pooky has laid out a pretty good set of reasoning for the Jester to claim, and there's no reason yet that disproves his logic. It's pretty much unassailable.
Secondly,Small FoS: Iammarsfor his "slip". I'm not going to vote him because it seems possible to me that he could still be town. Personally, I assumed the same thing he did, that tyhess was either town or cult. If he was mafia, that seems way too overpowered, so I never considered it a possibility. That being said, though, I agree with PJ that tyhess should not use his power until later in the game. If he's got solid evidence that someone is scum, he should steal their vote. But otherwise, he shouldn't use it. This way, he's less of a threat to the scum, so he can live longer.
Vote: Greasy SpotThat was some horrible maneuvering around the Jester issue. I'm thinking mafia here.
I understand that the jestermustclaim, but I am not the jester.
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...if BM and GS were the same, they couldn't be both playing in this game. It's against site rules, and both accounts would get banned by mith. Regardless, though, the mod doesn't have powers to make such a check, but I suppose he could notify mith if he actually thought that was the case. I'd assume that if GS is an alt, Thesp already knows who it is, so your request is completely pointless.Permanent V/LA.-
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BM, repeat after me. Don't evade me with some bullshit protest of having already done this, just do it:Battle Mage wrote:
This is not in conjunction with Pooky's views, which is interesting. I'm pretty sure i've already answered that question Mith.mith wrote:Once again, the Jester claiming helps the Jester AND the Jester claiming helps the Town. There is no contradiction here, because there is a third side: the Jester claiming hurts the Mafia. Having someone we know to be not-Mafia helps us in our Mafia hunting, obviously.
The Jester needs to claimASAP, because with every post that passes, there is more and more chance that the scum will realize that the Jester is unsure or a moron, and will jump in with a fake claim. A fake claim from the Mafia would absolutely devestate the plan.
Battle Mage, you haven't actually said whether or not you are the Jester - only that you weren't claiming to be. So, as with GS, I will ask you directly: Are you the Jester?
In other news, there are still 8 players not voting at all, and I would guess that at least a couple of the other votes are random (too lazy to check). We are now five realtime days into Day 1, and I once against strongly suggest thateveryone make a non-random vote by the time we hit the one rt week mark. I will be looking closely at anyone who posts before then but doesn't vote.
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Battle Mage, your explanation is not acceptable. You may have thought that we were not making sense, but what possessed you to fight it? What possible protown motive could you have for telling the Jester that we will profit if they claim Day 1?
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I think RossWilliam is making some rookie mistakes, but I think they areprotownrookie mistakes. At least he's being honest with his thoughts, even when they don't make sense.
I think Holy brings up a good point about Monkey. His post voting Greasy Spot seemed like an overjustification to me. It's like he was trying to pile on as many reasons for voting as he could think of that applied, even remotely, to Greasy Spot.
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Those two terms are equivalent, BM. Why have you not realized this yet?Battle Mage wrote:
Anti-town is probably the wrong term. you mean 'like an arrogant twat'.tyhess wrote:
And if it was up to me you would be shot on priniciple in every game becasue no matter matter you act anti town.Sarcastro wrote:You should be shot on principle.Permanent V/LA.-
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I made 11 posts on Thursday and Friday, but I didn't get to all my games. I've been gone since Friday to Louisiana (whoohoo Mardi Gras + Ultimate Tournament!), so I haven't even checked this thread until today. I just simply didn't see your post. In fact, I didn't see your post at all until I went back to see when you had posted it. I just saw other people replying to it.
Personally, I would have been inclined to think you might have been mafia claiming jester, but retracting your claim makes me think it's less likely.Permanent V/LA.-
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farside definitely claimed doctor.
farside claimed on Feb 10th, and Monkey last posted on Feb 11th, then started lurking, it looks like. I don't think there was enough time for Monkey to formulate a plan for reacting to farside's claim. Counterclaim is almost definitely out of the question this early in the game, because that just exposes the real doc to scum. Scum often claim doc for exactly that purpose. No one will counterclaim them, and if they do, it's worth the trade. If Monkey had reacted too strongly or too quickly to farside's claim, it might've been just as bad as counterclaiming.farside22 wrote:I am the doctor.Permanent V/LA.-
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I find it unlikely that all 3 killing groups (even allowing for one to be a vig, who wouldn't have killed you) would avoid killing you after your doc claim.farside22 wrote:@Beep Beep:
I say easy lynch target my leaving me alone. You say should have been dead. Either way I'm dead.petroleumjelly wrote:This game just got very depressing very quickly. In any case,Vote: farside22. I'm honestly not sure what to think of this game at the moment,because farside22 surviving the night underanycircumstances seems highly unlikely to me.
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telling the roleblocker to not block, depending on the scum to follow our plan, this really sounds like a plan coming from scum herself.MeMe wrote:
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It's simple. Mafia suggest certain protown people to be the jester, don't kill them, and then lynch them the next day. If the town sticks to the plan, the mafia can keep the jester alive once they figure out who it is, nightkilling them after they get a lot closer to winning by lynching a bunch of protown people.Permanent V/LA.-
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I think MeMe is smart enough to find the flaw I pointed out. It was the very first thing that came to mind when I saw the plan. It's not like she put it out there without checking it over. She claimed that she couldn't find any flaws, which implied that she had checked it over for problems. I think she was trying to pull a fast one on us, because it does look like a decent plan on the surface.
However, I'm amenable to a farside lynch still, since I think they're both scum. The evidence against farside is definitely more solid, at least.Permanent V/LA.-
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Fair enough.mathcam wrote:PJ: Well, I hope you can get things worked out. I think you have the highest number of points marked "Good point!" in my notes.
MoS:
Smart enough to figure it out? Of course.
Didfigure it out? Apparently not.
The two, while related, are not the same.
To re-iterate, the only way I see that this can be interpreted as scummy is if you believe that not only did MeMe know about the flaw, but also believed that no one else would be able to find it. This position seems completely untenable to me.
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The difference between that game and this one is that people did not *expect* there to be a jester. We expect there to be a jester, so anyone acting that way would be too obvious about it.Beep! Beep! wrote:If I wanted to get myself lynched.
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I would claim cop because I am not a cop, or any other role that exists, so that I would be counterclaimed. I would make dubious statements about my own sanity. I would give conflicting information about my night choices. I would try to provoke aggressive players.
Like this: Most Glorious Jester Performance, Lifetime Achievement Award
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farside, sadly enough, Beep! Beep! always plays like this. She's a natural Jester. Gives BM's title a run for its money, even. Thing is, though, I think she might act differently if she WAS a jester. I have a pretty good read on her when she's antitown. I've nailed her a couple times as scum, and I've been scum with her in a couple games as well. This doesn't seem like her as scum.Permanent V/LA.-
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rofl! This from Battle Mage- the guy who wasted a vote with some crazy idiotic attack on hasgfas, claiming that a post restricted vig (not that he claimed vig, mind you) would be impossible in a setup themed after a MeatWorld Meet where we played Mostlly Mute Mafia.Battle Mage wrote:rofl! This from Pooky- the guy who wasted about a WEEK with some crazy idiotic gambit which frankly, we were lucky didnt result in power roles being outted.
The vanishing Houdini of Thespival saying I'm stalling?
oh dear. lol
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The illogical Jester of Mafiascum saying Pooky's crazy and idiotic?
oh dear. lol
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Battle Mage wrote:quit talking crap MoS. I didnt 'waste a vote'. If youd been paying attention, youd know that when you make a vote in a mafia game, you can retract it-it is very rarely permanent and irreversible.
And yes, a Vig with a PR doesnt make alot of sense. You actually dont have a clue what you are talking about. -.-
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Good job Has and Cam for finishing out the game for us. I'm overall satisfied with how the scum played, although I wasn't happy about the has/CKD thing. I'm kinda surprised that Jelly thought I was scum with CKD and DGB, because CKD was the one person Iforgotwas scum with me, while I remember Cam/Iammars/Has and tried to play around it. Although I guess by the time PJ submitted those lists, both CKD and I were known dead scum, so yeah. Almost didn't see that.Permanent V/LA.-
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sorry, I just wasn't up to the challenge as much this game. To be fair, I didn't do any lurking on purpose. I very much had a RL excuse for my play in this game. Despite being mafia, I didn't lie about that.curiouskarmadog wrote:wish you would have done more, I have seen you play good games as town, was curious what your mafia game was like....and so you know, I wasnt throwing the plan out there for it to be executed the next day...I just wanted it to be a backup for Has, just in case PJ kept at him.Permanent V/LA.
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