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Dude, we've played like half a dozen games together. That's plenty.In post 5634, drealmerz7 wrote:you don't have a bunch of experience with me, you're talking out of your ass
now I definitely have a SR on you"Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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I count five completed games we've played together in the last few months, plus several others. I feel I have a good handle on your meta as it presently stands. Whine and bitch all you want, I'm not going away.
Your flailing right now suggests I'm right.
Powerlynching Drealmerz tomorrow."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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It is, actually. Your scumgame is to take a backseat, let Town destroy itself, and then when it matters, you step in and make a strong push.
The problem isn't that your scumgame is distinct, it's that it doesn't look like your Towngame. You tend to rage and go nuts at scum suspects when you're Town, and you tend to be like a dog with a bone, right or not. The weakness of your scumgame is that you have difficulty manufacturing the same outrage and passion.
This is your scumgame.
Don't sweat it. You're still relatively new to the site. We can work on it if you'd like. You'd be fun to hydra with.
PEdit: Yeah, Andy, that's the way I've been slowly leaning the last day phase or so. D1/early D2 I had Maria, but she's looking more confused and gamesolve-y lately. This is also directly in line with what I saw from Nos's scumgame in NY199, but that's my only prior experience with him, so it isn't super confident."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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Yes, vote Nacho. Of the two guilties, this one goes first.In post 5656, Firebringer wrote:
........In post 5652, Andrius wrote:
Guilty result is more than sufficient.In post 5650, drealmerz7 wrote:make a fucking case
Goodbye, dreal.
vote nacho."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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I'm reading, drealmerz, I just didn't find what you had to say at all convincing.
My wife does this. If I disagree on something, she seems to think she didn't explain herself well enough the first time, and starts over. Often repeatedly.
Drealmerz. I perceive you to be scum. Deal with it. Don't get butt hurt. If you're Town, prove it with your actions. You've been about as helpful as tits on a bull this game.
PEdit: Agreed, Fire and Gerry all Town due to how the first three lynches went down.
I'm down for a Nos lynch tomorrow."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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There are no counterpoints in this, Drealmerz. There's nothing to respond to. You could have replaced it all with "lol nope u suck" and had just as much impact. More, actually, because at least that would have been concise.In post 5665, drealmerz7 wrote:the only thing I'm sweating, pine, is you being really annoying with a blatantly horrible case
your description of my scum game in the past few I've been on here is wholly inaccurate
I only KIND of barely did that in PYPDD, but that was because of the large playerlist and what was going in life early in that game, not because I was scum
In Memory I was loud and out right away
Ttyll, loud and out right away
even in the one we were scum together, I wasn't like this at all
you make no sense
I've engaged with you entirely enough. Lynch wagon hooooo"Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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Maria does not hard defend both Creature and Nacho when they are sinking ships.
Gerry does not hard bus both out of the gate.
Why the hell do you people insist on characterizing scum players as having no subtlety or finesse? Any of those moves are bad moves.
And SAD, you can't call Gerry scum and me 'hardcore Town' for exactly the same reasons. Sorry, but no."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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I called them too, Gerry.In post 5746, gerryoat wrote:No, fuck off. You deserve to lose if you lynch the only one who has been tunneling mafia
Y'all really need to lay off Gerry. We have real scum to string up."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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I did, for one. But only me. You were clear second.
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I'm fucking awesome as scum, bro. We just finished a game where Camn designed an entire setup around taking away my advantages as scum, and I won it.In post 5825, drealmerz7 wrote:pine is scum because he's bad as scum and this is him being bad as scum
Yeah, bro, I'm not bad at scum, I'm just not as bad at Town as I used to be. If these morons lynch Gerry you should probably kill me tonight."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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Well, no, not really. The truth is somewhat between what you two are saying. Desp, you're exaggerating Gerry's multiple reads. He's allowed more than one at one time; it's a Large with an anticipated scumteam of approximately four. Gerry, characterizing his interpretation as a lie is over the top. It isn't a lie, it's how he interprets things. He's wrong, but throwing it back at him like that is unhelpful.
Come on guys. You're probably both Town, move past the pettiness. Lynch Nos with me."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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Gerry is making a reasonable exaggeration. He and I were the core of that push, and your dismissal of his role is not helping you. D3 was only three hours long, and if he'd been around he'd have been on Nacho like a fat kid on cake. He and I have been pushing Nacho since D1. Do you care to deny that?In post 5846, Desperado wrote:except Gerry is now claiming that he was the primary driver of the nacho wagon, which is what I'm taking issue with
If you all just decided to lynch maria today, I wouldn't be able to call myself the main driver even tho I've supported her lynch from the word go.
Your lack of faith in Nacho's scumgame is disturbing. Of course he'd do those things.In post 5847, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:
These two posts really don't read as partners. I don't think nacho would go out of his way to explain what dreamz is doing, neither ask him to vote with him like that.In post 4540, Nachomamma8 wrote:i think saying drealmer is lacking presence is not really true; he has a ton of posts per his usual and his EoD tunneling on gerry/sly was pretty typical drealmer from my perspective."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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BECAUSE HE WAS ON NACHO, YOU NUMPTYIn post 5851, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:But Gerry isn't on it.."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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I'm a little concerned that this recent readslist does not match SAD's new positions.In post 5760, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Tier list
Firebringer, Pine
Desperado
Maria, Zach, Nos
Mcmenno, dreamz
Gerry"Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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This is a good paraphrase of my feelings.In post 5859, gerryoat wrote:mcmenno aint done shit but he has been on the right wagons, so he gets the botd today. lynch someone who is objectively scummy"Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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Yeah but the old one was like ten hours ago. I'm not buying the shifting reads that quickly.
I just ISOed EP for vote counts. I agree that simply existing on the right wagons means little, but position on those wagons does.
McMenno was among the very first on Creature D1, preceded only by Zach, who wandered off soon after for other votes. He was even the only vote on Creature for a while, and never moved off.
McMenno was among the first on Nacho D2, and stayed consistent on Nacho all day until hammer.
McMenno went right back onto Nacho D3, and rode it all the way to a second scumlynch.
So a McMenno SR proposes that McMenno has done NOTHING but bus. I don't buy that.
Need to ISO Zach. My TR of him is stale, and I'm concerned he's coasting. Noticed that early vote on Creature and moving off of it. Need to see if that was just an RVS vote or whether it looks like distancing.
Present SRs are drealmerz and Nos, investigating SAD and Zach. McMenno investigation concludes Town. Maria investigation concludes Town."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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Yeah, I actually play like that as both Town and scum. The key to being a good scum player is to have as little visible difference between your Towngame and scumgame as possible. That's why Creature and drealmerz got nailed here, because I could see the seams.In post 5876, Zachstralkita wrote:This is different from my Sly read which I was dead wrong on. Note I townread Pine a lot of yesterday before the drealmerz thing happened. Now I am re evaluating my thought processes.
I've played 4 games with Pine. This would be the 5th.
Of those 4 , 3 have been scum games.
I've called him as scum in 2/3 of those games.
My intent is not at all to imply that I am good at reading Pine, but it's a track record that shows I can actually back my feelings up.
He's taking a head on approach because Pine scum plays like that, he likes being in the crowd and letting people know about it. He's good at manipulating people.
I'm not good at articulating stuff but heed my point about him WRT drealmerz. It reads so fake given the context. He can't ACTUALLY believe that.
I'm pretty sure I have a post somewhere that conveys scum pine. I will elaborate more on this read later.
This is my Towngame.
Also, kind of hilarious that the incipient Pine!wagon is entirely people I have recently suspected.
This.In post 5893, Desperado wrote:
I've seen you say this more than once and I think you need to check that shit at the door man. We aren't at your homesite any more. The meta here is different. Push your case by all means but routinely referencing how some other group of people would all agree with you that something is obviously scummy gets you nowhere and alienates the people you are actually playing this game with.In post 5888, drealmerz7 wrote:like...pine's case is soooo shitty horrible awful of a case
if he did that on my HS, he'd be lynched in an instant because it's so blatantly scummy and shitty - you can't get away with that shit where I'm used to playing, and that it's actually accepted as something that has any sort of merit hurts my fucking head
Drealmerz, I have actually repeatedly responded to you, repeatedly stated my case, repeatedly engaged why I don't feel your defense is valid. You're just throwing a tantrum at this point. It is yet another example of how you produce unconvincing outrage when you're scum and convincing outrage when you're Town. This is the former."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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See, this is why I'm beginning to suspect Zach. It wasn't the VCA thing, that just reminded me that Zach was in the game and I hadn't seriously considered him in a while.In post 5929, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:
I can't take your posts seriously anymore. You just derail every wagon and the one wagon where you pushed (slysly) was town.In post 5927, Zachstralkita wrote:He doesn't give a fuck about [expending effort] when it's not toward something he's lynched, which is bad if he's wrong on a read
I haven't seen scum drealmerz.. if I'm not mistaken he's been town in all the games I've completed with him and he's acted exactly like the reasons he is being lynched for
It's not scum behavior imo
"Trust me dreamz is 100% town" "I haven't ever seen him as scum but trust me!".
A quick skim of Zach's ISO supports this suspicion, as he seems to be pushing pretty much any wagon that moves except the ones that are productive. He's gone after Fro99er, Sly, Fire, Andy, McMenno, and now me. That's like, a full Town roster of votes, except his RVS vote on Creature. He's been keeping to himself, but suddenly has out-of-nowhere case on me as soon as I express doubts about him? Nahhhhh.
{Nos, drealmerz, Zach} take it to the bank.
Unless I'm wrong. I am often wrong.
PEdit: I am tentatively interested in that voting bloc. I'm not 100% on everyone in it, but I'm at least 75% on all of them."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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@Bloc: I propose that Nos is the lynch for today. I'm not 100% on him, but my gut says go for it. Besides, we seem not to have a vig and there's no fucking way he should get to LYLO.
PEdit: lol, drealmerz just tripping over himself to discredit anyone now. Dude, the vote isn't even on you right now. We're on Nos.
PEdit2: Touché, Paladin Bro"Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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I'm good with either. I changed gears into hunting the remaining scum because the drealmerz wagon was stalled. My old SR on Maria has transitioned into a TR, so there's certainly more to hunt than just drealmerz. Hell, we wouldn't have gotten that horribad reaction out of Zach if I hadn't gone hunting.Andrius wrote:My Dearest Cleric Pine,
You, SAD, and I have all stated issues with drealmerz. And you just said you're not 100% on him. Why can't we just lynch dreal since we all already agree there?
Yours in Service to The Light,
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{drealmerz, Nos} would lynch either of these today. Need to assess more evidence of Zach, but moving rapidly toward an SR of him."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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<3In post 5968, Andrius wrote:
It takes more than one Strahdian to form a party.In post 5962, Pine wrote:Actually, I tend to be the walling and long discussion type, Andy. You bring out the Strahdian in me.
We can all wear the cape.
Veto Gerry and McMenno.In post 5965, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:My lynch preferences in order:
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Nos
Dreamz
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I wouldn't put it past Nacho to have been coaching Gerry day 1, esp with the way their interaction went down.
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Forgot about that. More likely a 1-shot power? Good point.In post 5995, Desperado wrote:
SAD said he got lost a shot on his BP and there's no evidence of an SK, pretty sure that's a vig?In post 5947, Pine wrote:@Bloc: I propose that Nos is the lynch for today. I'm not 100% on him, but my gut says go for it.Besides, we seem not to have a vig and there's no fucking way he should get to LYLO.
PEdit: lol, drealmerz just tripping over himself to discredit anyone now. Dude, the vote isn't even on you right now. We're on Nos.
PEdit2: Touché, Paladin Bro
This idea has some merit, but I won't be approving or participating in the lynch of McMenno or Gerry, and I don't care how many points they get.In post 5999, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:We should just do points if everyone in the bloc ranks those 5.
8 points for #1
5 points for #2
3 points for #3
2 points for #4
0 points for #5
And everyone agrees to vote the one with the highest points.
I'm starting to have cold feet about Drealmerz. My entire case is built on him faking outrage as scum and real raging as Town. This is feeling more real the more I consider it.
I'd really prefer Nos today.
VOTE: Nosferatu"Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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What the fuck is this shit.In post 6054, drealmerz7 wrote:I miss tammy
I was looking forward to trying to have a game with her again, damnit, you scumbags
Forget my cold feet on Drealmerz."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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ANARCHY IN THEIn post 6068, Errantparabola wrote:
wow yall suckIn post 6063, drealmerz7 wrote:way to kill the thread, EP!
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And he forgot to look his up. Town simply knows their role, they don't have to look up what their fakeclaim was.In post 6219, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:
They have fake claims anyway.In post 6215, Pine wrote:Didn't claim flavor. Flavor is a pile of socks.
Creature claimed "My roommate" but he wasn't."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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This isn't necessarily a counterclaim. This sounds like something that could be present in multiple roles, like the moist modifier.In post 6230, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:I'm a night 1 compulsive visitor with a potential effect.
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I have the Hated modifier. When you're Town Hated, you claim it first post. Not doing so is anti-Town.In post 6238, Nosferatu wrote:I beg to differ. I actually have a hated modifier. I've been dead for a while now.
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Good point.In post 6242, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:
Straight up lie, EP had you at 5 votes because she though Firebringer was on you and I corrected EP. And they didn't flip/lynch you.In post 6238, Nosferatu wrote:I beg to differ. I actually have a hated modifier. I've been dead for a while now.
Bye scum I can rest easy now."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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+1In post 6258, gerryoat wrote:Or even someone that has the hated claim like you claimed?"Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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What?In post 6279, MariaR wrote:
Did you get it btw?In post 6277, Pine wrote:I partial-claimed a while ago. Not elaborating. I'm hoping that, if I target right tonight, I can wrap this game up.
I cannot wait to show off the awesome role I have.
DuhIn post 6288, MariaR wrote:No shit Gerry is town lolNah
I long con all the time, but not at the expense of scumbuddies.In post 6302, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Imagine if Pine is scum and playing for the long con,
would be hilarious.
This would require me leading the lynch on three scumbuddies, which is so antiwincon I don't have words. All it would take is a lucky track, watch, or whatever to lose the game.
This is possible, but I maintain that he's Town.In post 6303, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Or mcmenno playing for the long con.
SAD I'd really appreciate it if you could stop being terribad paranoid."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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^TownpostingIn post 6308, Andrius wrote:So I went to the OP to look to see if people can BAH post or not.
(Answer is NO.)
When I found this:
May become relevant.In post 0, Errantparabola wrote:- Scum cannot perform kill and use power on the same night.
Also somewhat confirms the existence of a Non-Encyptor Scum PR.
Also well spotted, my dead Paladin."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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Pine In Your Head
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